List of Common Fallacies by Creationists

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I put together a little list of fallacies that Intelligent design guys and creationists usually make. I also have a little cartoon (it’s a four parter, and it’s published twice a week) that also pokes fun at them. You can visit my post here for the cartoon at brainode.com


The list is:
1. Subjectivism: Intelligent design is true because I want it to be true
That’s a pretty common mistake that these guys make. Creationist dudes are all intensely religious, and whenever they see any iota of evidence that might “prove” their beliefs, they are completely blind to any fact that disputes it.

2. Appeal to Ignorance: Can the average person prove Evolution
Most creationists know that the average person is not totally familiar with evolution, and that there are many big gaps in their understanding. By exploiting an individuals own ignorance, they create doubt by asking questions that the average layman cannot answer, like “if we descended from monkeys, why are there monkeys now?” or “how can evolution explain how something as complex as an eye was formed?” A good scientist will be able to answer that, but not Joe Everyman.

3. False Alternative: If Evolution is false, then God did it
This fallacy is pretty common among intelligent design proponents. It basically supposes that any gap or dispute about the theory of evolution automatically suggests that their own creationist theory must therefore be true. But if evolution was proven to be false (which it will never be, sorry to say), then why would their explanation be the only alternative?

4. Non Sequitur: What happens when you use Religion in a Scientific debate
Non sequitur mean, quite literally in Latin, what “does not follow”. It’s an argument that proposes an irrelevant conclusion. It relies on an implicit claim that is not stated in the argument, and that the entire argument shifts direction towards a conclusion that had nothing to do with the argument in the first place. The argument can go as follows: “Evolution cannot fully explain all biological questions; therefore all life is the product of a supreme designing intelligence”. The implicit premise is that there is a God, and also that this God is able to create living matter. Since this premise has nothing to do with biology, it has no place in a debate on evolution. at there is a God, and also that this God is able to create living matter. Since this premise has nothing to do with biology, it has no place in a debate on evolution.
 
You missed the big one:

0. Appeal to Authority: Evolution is wrong because the Bible says it happened this way.
 
You missed the big one:

0. Appeal to Authority: Evolution is wrong because the Bible says it happened this way.
In my axperience creationists frequently use the following fallacies:

* Accent
* Ad hoc
* Affirmation of the consequent
* Amphiboly
* Anecdotal evidence
* Argumentum ad antiquitatem
* Argumentum ad baculum / Appeal to force
* Argumentum ad crumenam
* Argumentum ad hominem
* Argumentum ad ignorantiam
* Argumentum ad lazarum
* Argumentum ad logicam
* Argumentum ad misericordiam
* Argumentum ad nauseam
* Argumentum ad novitatem
* Argumentum ad numerum
* Argumentum ad populum
* Argumentum ad verecundiam
* Audiatur et altera pars
* Bifurcation
* Circulus in demonstrando
* Complex question / Fallacy of interrogation / Fallacy of presupposition
* Fallacies of composition
* Converse accident / Hasty generalization
* Converting a conditional
* Cum hoc ergo propter hoc
* Denial of the antecedent
* The fallacy of accident / Sweeping generalization / Dicto simpliciter
* Fallacy of division
* Equivocation / Fallacy of four terms
* The extended analogy
* Ignoratio elenchi / Irrelevant conclusion
* The Natural Law fallacy / Appeal to Nature
* The "No True Scotsman..." fallacy
* Non causa pro causa
* Non sequitur
* Petitio principii / Begging the question
* Plurium interrogationum / Many questions
* Post hoc ergo propter hoc
* Red herring
* Reification / Hypostatization
* Shifting the burden of proof
* The slippery slope argument
* Straw man
* Tu quoque
* Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle / "A is based on B" fallacies / "...is a type of..." fallacies
 
In my axperience creationists frequently use the following fallacies:

* Accent
* Ad hoc
* Affirmation of the consequent
* Amphiboly ...

I'm not up on my Latin -- is there one that means Cherry Picking the Evidence? If not, that should be there as well.
 
I'm not up on my Latin -- is there one that means Cherry Picking the Evidence? If not, that should be there as well.
There isn't, which I suspect is because that's not an informal logical fallacy as such. If memory serves logical fallacies apply to logical proof, not to evidence.

ETA; I shamelesly plagerized the list from http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#accident if anybody is interested in more than the names of the fallacies.
 
The reasoning that if there's one fault with the theory of evolution, then it's all wrong and should be discarded.
 
There isn't, which I suspect is because that's not an informal logical fallacy as such. If memory serves logical fallacies apply to logical proof, not to evidence.

OK, but isn't this thread titled "Common Fallacies by Creationists"? -- not just Logical ones? Isn't it misleading to present only evidence that you feel is in support of your agenda and to either ignore or suppress the rest? I would argue that a major fallacy of Creationists is their one-sidedness to issues, causing them to be highly selective when looking for evidence. Then they claim they are just as valid as Scientific theories.
 
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I'm not up on my Latin -- is there one that means Cherry Picking the Evidence? If not, that should be there as well.


"Hasty Generalization."

As in : 3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime, therefore all numbers are prime.
 
The reasoning that if there's one fault with the theory of evolution, then it's all wrong and should be discarded.
Who specifically do you nominate as suggesting that? The faults are multitudinous in any case, be one a YEC, OEC, IDer, or anyone else who is not a dyed-in-the-wool evolutionist.

BTW, is there some implication that non-creationists do not use all the same fallacies in their debates, assuming the truth of the axioms they prefer -- one axiom being that 'the physical exists' with 'physical' carrying all the implications of casual usage?
 
3. and 4. are practically the same.

There is no worse debater on evolution than Ms. Laura Ingraham. She acts confused and amused when cornered, then turns dismissive and condescending. Truly, though I am a radical conservative and respect the rights of religious believers -- I hate the b*tch.
 
The faults are multitudinous in any case, be one a YEC, OEC, IDer, or anyone else who is not a dyed-in-the-wool evolutionist.
So what you're saying is that anybody who's not an evolutionist doesn't believe in evolution? What a fascinating insight, what other pearls of wisdom might we expect from you? Tell me; Is the Pope Catholic and do bears in fact **** in the woods?
 
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Forgot all the other fallacies

I had forgotten about all the fallacies that Creationists make other then logical ones (for the purposes of debate, I mean). The list is pretty lengthy, for sure. I guess the saddest thing is when people filter out the truth to support their convoluted beliefs. It’s even sadder when they think that people who don’t believe in what they do must somehow be immoral. I think it’s rather immoral to perpetuate superstitious beliefs and ridiculous concepts and poison a future generation’s minds.
 
Which fallacies do ID'ers commit?

What our own fallacies?

1. We think the whole world is stupid and will often mock the half-competent (who only need some patience).

2. Allowing our views to be politicized by others - or doing so ourselves - and then wondering why people feel offended. This is no more our means to progress than was tried by the religious right, who alienate far more Americans than they inspire.

3. The biggie, if you ask me........ Bothering.
 
I'll be your official spokesperson. For free!!!!
Well, before you do, you should get your facts straight.

I do not think the whole world is stupid nor do I mock the half-competent. I mock the ones who don't admit mistakes and refuse to abandon erroneous beliefs.

I personally believe that it is (almost) always worth bothering. Falsehoods, left unchallenged, have a tendancy to become truths. It is nearly always worth bothering.

Your second point may or may not be deserved. I haven't thought about it.
 
I do not think the whole world is stupid nor do I mock the half-competent. I mock the ones who don't admit mistakes and refuse to abandon erroneous beliefs.

I personally believe that it is (almost) always worth bothering. Falsehoods, left unchallenged, have a tendancy to become truths. It is nearly always worth bothering.

Your second point may or may not be deserved. I haven't thought about it.

See? We completely agree.
 

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