Having sex with someone with a penis is not the same as having one yourself.
You misunderstood my comment. It was about people who have or have had sex with both females and males but still call themselves lesbians. I do not say to them "
Oh you can't call yourself a lesbian because you have had sex with both men and women so you are bisexual." I accept their self determined label of being "lesbian".
If we applied your labeling methodology consistently, a woman who has had sex with a man can
never label themselves a lesbian because a lesbian is a homosexual woman. Your reasoning would be that they have to call themselves bisexual.
I don't agree with that.
The 'lesbians with penises' mantra is not about lesbians (homosexual women) surgically altering the appearance of their genitals. It is about men 'identifying' as women but keeping hold of their already existing penis and calling themselves lesbians when they are (hetero-?) sexually attracted to females (women).
And I don't care, if a lesbian wants to have a penis let them, if they want to have a third breast let them, if they want to pierce their nose let them. If they want to have sex with another lesbian let them. If another lesbian doesn't want to have sex with a lesbian with a nose piercing let them.
It is no business of mine to determine who calls themselves a lesbian or not.
Labelling a dead lesbian "gender-nonconforming" rather than "lesbian' is an incomplete description (gender has nothing to do with sexuality - see my edit to
post above) which, in this blue plaque case, erases important lesbian history.
And not labeling her "gender non conforming" fails to confer important historical information. This is a woman who looked at society eye to eye and said "stuff your stereotypes, your conforming nonsense I'm going to live the life I want as me". Her being a lesbian is only part of her historical significance and in the end there is only limited space of such a plaque.
I would say it is a disservice to her memory to make her being a lesbian the most important fact about her.
So far you have failed to demonstrate there was any attempt to erase her being a lesbian.
This natural compassion/empathy/identification for/with minorities seems to make it harder for people the political left ( I don't think people on the right are motivated by compassion so much) to look objectively at the legal conflicts that arise from legally treating biological men as biological women, in the context of women being a legally protected class on the basis of their sex, in relation to how the Gender recognition Act and The Equalities Act work together. There is an unresolved conflict between transgender people's rights and women's rights. Women are losing their legal rights.
Women are not losing rights, at the "worse" we are extending rights to a new set of people who didn't have those rights in the past.
You may be too young to have seen lesbians being physically assaulted when going to a female toilet in a pub but I remember seeing such things, you would seem to be wanting a return to such a time for those you deem to not be what
you are happy labeling "woman".
I don't.
