The promise was made by a previous government, and no party can tie the hands of future governments. That it's the same party is incidental. May is not bound to follow Cameron's promises.
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The promise was made by a previous government, and no party can tie the hands of future governments. That it's the same party is incidental. May is not bound to follow Cameron's promises.
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angrysoba
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Ultimately this was the major flaw of the referendum. If Cameron hadn’t held it it would have come down to a party promising Brexit in a manifesto pledge in a general election. In fact such a party existed. It’s conceivable they could have won a future election and conducted the process as it should have been done.
Lothian
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Whenever we leave the EU and Scotland rejoins. There will even be help rerouting it south a bit. Newcastle was a remain city.
Dave Rogers
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Based on the record of said party in any areas where they achieved any actual positions of authority, they probably wouldn't have been able to conduct the process of holding a piss-up in a brewery as it should have been done. It's almost a shame they didn't get a chance; they'd probably have ended up invoking article 55 by mistake.
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I now have a mental image of Rupert Murdoch in a black robe calling Gove, Johnson and Farrage on his Sky Holophone and ordering them to "Execute Order 66" !
Do you think that being an MEP - one of the elected UK representatives in the EU - is a position of authority? I don't think the EU is very democratic and the MEPs don't have much authority, so I don't think it is. In any case if all goes according to plan the UK won't have any MEPs after next March.
There are 18 elected UKIP Members of the European Parliament at the moment. Conservative also have 18, with Labour having slightly more (20). There are 73 UK MEPs altogether so there are a total of 17 from other parties.
The Wikipedia article where I got those numbers, the total is 72, not 73, so either I'm missing something or the Wikipedia article has a mistake
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The abject bleating of Leaver supports at each and every revelation of what we are being excluded from suggests otherwise.
Dave Rogers
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Some were. Some were selfish. Some were ignorant. Some were hoodwinked.
Etc., etc., etc....
Dave Rogers
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And some, despite the unfounded denials of the hard Brexiteers, wanted not to become part of a federal European state but were happy to remain within the customs union, in effect wanting to be in the EEC rather than the EU. Apparently they were supposed to vote "Remain," despite the rather inconvenient point that if they had, the referendum would have gone the other way.
Dave
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I like what you did there.
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Indeed. Back when, as Home Secretary, she was merely screwing up policing, the courts, immigration and other such trivia (rather than screwing up the entire country) she was distinctly hostile to the ECHR and actively advocated the UK leaving the Convention.
Given how commingled in UK law the Convention, the ECHR, the ECJ, the Charter of Fundamental Rights and the HRA are, the idea that Brexit won't effect them is naive at best, wilful dishonesty at worst.
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"Two for the English and one-point-two for the Excise men."
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It might be considered one if the freeloading **** actually turned up for work.
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The entire Leave campaign boiled down to insisting a Brexit could be delivered that provided all of the benefits of EU membership with none of the responsibilities. I am confident they did so in the expectation that they would be defeated and never have to deliver on those promises. The likes of Farage and Johnson would get to play hero to the 'Little Englanders' and advance their careers, instead Brexit has one way or another proved their undoing, shame the rest of us have to suffer the consequences.
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Shame that few British policians have the guts to be honest and say "Leaving the EU would be a mistake",refuse to adapt it, and let the relection chips fall where they may.'
At least you have one party that is pretty sane. Our opposition is hamstrung by Corbyn thinking that Brexit is a chance to found a glorious socialist republic.
Apparently even Momentum are getting annoyed with his lack of opposition to the Rees-Mogg Brexit vision.
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