Cont: Breaking: Mueller Grand Jury charges filed, arrests as soon as Monday pt 2

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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1023917049096151041
NEW: Giuliani just moved the goal posts in 2 big ways on Fox & CNN :
1. He's no longer claiming Trump didn't collude with Russia. He's claiming "collusion is not a crime."
2. He's not saying Trump did not know abt 2016 Russia mtg in advance. He's saying Trump did not ATTEND it.
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I think the full version of Giuliani’s defense is:

Russia didn't interfere, but if they did,
Mueller's investigation was misguided and should be stopped, but if it's not,
Trump didn't know about the Russian interference, but if he did,
Trump's team didn't collaborate with the Russians, but if they did,
Trump didn't know that his team was collaborating, but if he did,
Mueller doesn't have any real evidence aside from Fake News, but if he does,
Collusion with the Russians isn't a crime, but if it is,
It didn't affect the outcome of the election, but if it did,
The democrats colluded more than the republicans, but if they didn't,

Russia was helping the USA elect the greatest, most legitimately-elected president ever, so it's totally okay and we should be thanking them rather than persecuting the most legitimately-elected president ever.



The alternate version (aka the "Trump Version") is much longer and includes the MS-13, Benghazi, CNN, the Wall, great(est) relationships with foreign leaders, the DNC's server, Hillary's emails, cheering Iranians, lots of things that "people are saying," Obamacare, unfair trade practices, and at least two instances of "I'm joking of course. But not really."
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1023941522260148224
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That interview clip was simply bizarre.

"The people in that meeting deny it, the people we've been able to interview. The people that we've not been able to interview have never said that about that meeting."

Ummm . . . we should be impressed by the things that weren't said by people who weren't asked?

By that standard, according to the staff at MIT (who, AFAIK, have never denied it or even discussed the subject), I have a PhD from MIT!
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Oh, they must be ******** themselves right about now.
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Yeah, but why? All Trump has to do is deny it. Trump's base either isn't going to put it together or they simply won't care. Mueller could recommend indictment or impeachment and a Republican controlled congress won't do anything about it. There are no real consequences for Trump in any of this. It's a post-factual world.


...now, the people around Trump might be a different matter, until they are pardoned.
 
dasmiller said:
That interview clip was simply bizarre.

"The people in that meeting deny it, the people we've been able to interview. The people that we've not been able to interview have never said that about that meeting."

Ummm . . . we should be impressed by the things that weren't said by people who weren't asked?

By that standard, according to the staff at MIT (who, AFAIK, have never denied it or even discussed the subject), I have a PhD from MIT!
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Congratulations Dr. dasmiller.
 
dasmiller said:
I think the full version of Giuliani’s defense is:

Russia didn't interfere, but if they did,
Mueller's investigation was misguided and should be stopped, but if it's not,
Trump didn't know about the Russian interference, but if he did,
Trump's team didn't collaborate with the Russians, but if they did,
Trump didn't know that his team was collaborating, but if he did,
Mueller doesn't have any real evidence aside from Fake News, but if he does,
Collusion with the Russians isn't a crime, but if it is,
It didn't affect the outcome of the election, but if it did,
The democrats colluded more than the republicans, but if they didn't,

Russia was helping the USA elect the greatest, most legitimately-elected president ever, so it's totally okay and we should be thanking them rather than persecuting the most legitimately-elected president ever.

The alternate version (aka the "Trump Version") is much longer and includes the MS-13, Benghazi, CNN, the Wall, great(est) relationships with foreign leaders, the DNC's server, Hillary's emails, cheering Iranians, lots of things that "people are saying," Obamacare, unfair trade practices, and at least two instances of "I'm joking of course. But not really."
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Read to the tune of "There Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly." :p

I nomed it.
 
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1023965095284617216

I agree with Josh this is potentially BIG admission.

Josh's analysis: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/rudys-big-admission …

My add on: Giuliani places Kushner at Russia pre-plan meeting!

That puts Kushner at risk of perjury. He testified he didn't know what June 9 meeting was about: https://www.justsecurity.org/54408/house-intel-committee-findings-contradict-kushners-testimony/ …
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Giuliani and Trump really suit each other, don't they?
 
Upchurch said:
I know no other meaning for LARP. Back in the day before tabletop roleplaying gained it's current popularity, LARPers were the group that even my low-caste group of nerds could still laugh at or feel embarrassed about. Even now, I can't look at that picture without shaking my head and thinking, "Guys. C'mon. Just... just don't."

Rod Rosenstein not being a LARPer only speaks better of him, IMHO.
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They are also full of nazis.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-alt-right-is-taking-over-renaissance-fairs

"Ten days before the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville last year, Paul Walsh was telling fellow neo-Nazis how to build and carry shields. “Carrying it like that it will flop around and be a pain in the ass,” Walsh scolded a member of his chat group, who suggested a hands-free shield modification.

How did Walsh know how a shield would work in action? “I do a lot of nerdy LARP [live action role play] **** with shields,” he explained."
 
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