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Upchurch said:
Oh, it's completely harmless, just a little weird:
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Kids throughout history have engaged in role playing.

It seems a shame that it is considered weird for grown-ups to do it.

Especially when contact sports are such a major industry. ("Oh, but that's different. :rolleyes:)

Also acting. "Are you a practicing thespian?"

I guess it's only 'not weird' when it is an approved adult activity.
 
I'm not the person that was asked, but...

theprestige said:
It would, but my political fantasy is different and, I think, much less likely. I'd like to see Trump crushed in the Republican primary by some decent human being.
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What counts as a decent human being in your mind, though?
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How about someone who's not a racist and a bigot? That would be a good starting point.

Would any of the other Republican candidates from 2016 qualify?
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I can think of 2:
- John Kasich (I may not agree with many of his policies, but I don't see him as a particularly malevolent)
- George Pataki (Granted, he left the race before the primaries begun, but he was in the race for a few months). Many people think he's what a Republican should be... right-wing on economic issues, but still accepting of abortion rights, gay rights, and a recognition of man-made global warming)
 
theprestige said:
What counts as a decent human being in your mind, though?

Would any of the other Republican candidates from 2016 qualify?
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Yes, I think a few would have. From what I've seen (which isn't a lot), I liked Kasich, for example.

ETA: Pretty much what Segnosaur said. I don't know much about Pataki, but Seg's summary sounds good.
 
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theprestige said:
What counts as a decent human being in your mind, though?

Would any of the other Republican candidates from 2016 qualify?
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Kasich. As already said, I don't agree with all of his policies but he would not have disgraced the office of POTUS. That can't be said of the current occupant.
 
Stacyhs said:
Kasich. As already said, I don't agree with all of his policies but he would not have disgraced the office of POTUS. That can't be said of the current occupant.
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Heck, Ben Carson is a decent human, far as I can tell. He's not qualified and I disagree with many of his opinions, but he's not an ass.

I wouldn't want him to win the nomination, mind you, but he seems decent.

Jeb also seems decent. If basic human decency is the only consideration, I'm sure others count as well. Indeed, Trump was hands down the most indecent candidate for the GOP in 16.
 
phiwum said:
Heck, Ben Carson is a decent human, far as I can tell. He's not qualified and I disagree with many of his opinions, but he's not an ass.

I wouldn't want him to win the nomination, mind you, but he seems decent.

Jeb also seems decent. If basic human decency is the only consideration, I'm sure others count as well. Indeed, Trump was hands down the most indecent candidate for the GOP in 16.
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Kasich, unlike Carson, was qualified for the office.
 
dasmiller said:
It would, but my political fantasy is different and, I think, much less likely. I'd like to see Trump crushed in the Republican primary by some decent human being.

Despite my current near-despair over the state of the Republican party, I don't consider myself a Democrat. In my fantasy world, I want to see (at least) 2 good political parties in the US. I'd like to have a presidential election where I had to choose the better of two good options, not the less-awful of two bad options.

A Republican repudiation of Trump would, IMO, be a sign that the Republican party is recovering, and I would welcome that.
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I would welcome that, too! Unfortunately, the Republicans definitely need a rather incredible cleaning of House (...that actually wasn't intentional, but it works so well) before there's any hope of that. That goes all the way down to cleaning up pillars of their party like Fox News, though.

Segnosaur said:
Define "progressive". Are you referring to someone who's got far-left political and economic views? (i.e. a Bernie Sanders type)? Or just someone who's not a total asshat?
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Is it worth pointing out that most "progressives," when it comes to the US variety, are slight to somewhat left, when using a somewhat objective measure? There's really not all that many people who are far left in politics, and I'd point to the Green party as a more likely home for many of them.

Segnosaur said:
I'd prefer if it were a moderate, slightly left of center individual, someone who will reverse Trump's lunacy but not promote a strong backlash. Just on the off chance that an idiot Trump supporter could say "Hey, a Democrat got elected and the world didn't collapse. Maybe I should give them a chance next time".

But then, Obama governed pretty much from a moderate position and still got condemned for "taking our guns and giving us death panels" (neither of which he did), so what do I know?
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The right-wing has increasingly been about partisanship over all other concerns. If they think they can plausibly lie to fire up their base, they've fairly consistently done that, and given the nature of their base, they've done that a lot. As time goes on when their base pretty much lives in an echo chamber, it gets ever worse and more effective.

It's honestly sad when otherwise fine and intelligent people turn into utter idiots when the topic turns to something touched by partisanship. I am, of course, not talking about their specific opinions, but what they're backing up their opinions with and what they claim counts as evidence for their position. To harken back to a specific example of what I'm talking about, though... No, an article about a woman who had trouble because her voting machine was a bit miscalibrated, but still managed to vote for the candidate that she wanted to vote for (and that, after reporting it to the staff, it was fixed), is not something that backs up a claim about how an entire rural county supposedly voted 100% for Democrats because of electoral fraud.

Upchurch said:
I know no other meaning for LARP. Back in the day before tabletop roleplaying gained it's current popularity, LARPers were the group that even my low-caste group of nerds could still laugh at or feel embarrassed about. Even now, I can't look at that picture without shaking my head and thinking, "Guys. C'mon. Just... just don't."

Rod Rosenstein not being a LARPer only speaks better of him, IMHO.
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Meh? I would disagree. Being a LARPer is pretty neutral. It offers a much, much more interesting way to exercise than just running laps, either way.

plague311 said:
This caught me as hilarious with regards to the Rosenstein impeachment:

"I’m not a big fan of drama,” Gowdy said


Hahaha come on Trey, who you kidding?
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Hey, one can use drama as a political ploy, but not actually be a big fan of it! Benghazi was so obviously turned into a spittle-flecked political ploy, after all.
 
Upchurch said:
I know no other meaning for LARP. Back in the day before tabletop roleplaying gained it's current popularity, LARPers were the group that even my low-caste group of nerds could still laugh at or feel embarrassed about. Even now, I can't look at that picture without shaking my head and thinking, "Guys. C'mon. Just... just don't."

Rod Rosenstein not being a LARPer only speaks better of him, IMHO.
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That reminds me of Lore Fitzgerald Sjöberg's geek hierarchy. The LARPers are on level five.
 
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