All things Trump + Russia Part 4

Bob001 said:
They both had their own translators.
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My understanding is the interpreters translate into their own language only. So it's the Russian interpreter who has to make sense of what Trump is saying.
 
quadraginta said:
If Trump's sugardaddy Putin told him not to bring any recording devices, Trump wouldn't have the guts to try and sneak something in.

Putin, OTOH, would.
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I have to wonder, what's the protocol for body-searching heads of state? It would seem a diplomatic faux pas if one side insisted on even an electronic search of the other. Do they wear earpieces at these things?
 
alfaniner said:
I have to wonder, what's the protocol for body-searching heads of state? It would seem a diplomatic faux pas if one side insisted on even an electronic search of the other. Do they wear earpieces at these things?
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But isn't it protocol for heads of criminal gangs?
 
https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1021571179138764801

NEW: Russian hackers have penetrated U.S. electric utilities and are positioning themselves for an attack, reports @SmithRebecca https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia...ms-homeland-security-officials-say-1532388110 … via @WSJ
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Let's see what the official response to this is. Since the President of Iran telling the US not to threaten Iran caused an all-caps declaration of war from Trump, an actual act of war from a hostile foreign power is bound to get a more forceful response, isn't it?
 
Aber said:
My understanding is the interpreters translate into their own language only. So it's the Russian interpreter who has to make sense of what Trump is saying.
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Your understanding is correct. As a rule, you only translate into your native tongue, not any other.

That said, at need, one could translate from mother tongue to another language, but that is regarded as unprofessional. To be avoided unless there are no other options, or acceptable in casual conversation.

How do I know this? My sister is 30 years a professional translator. She collects translation clangers for laughs. The problem is always idioms that are normal to every language. For an apropos example, the simple english phrase "out of sight, out of mind" was translate from english to russian and then from russian back to english. The result was the phrase "invisible lunatic". While that has a certain strange logic to it, clearly the idiom has literally been lost in translation.

And don't ask for a reference. That one dates back to the '90s so no hope of that.
 
abaddon said:
Your understanding is correct. As a rule, you only translate into your native tongue, not any other.

That said, at need, one could translate from mother tongue to another language, but that is regarded as unprofessional. To be avoided unless there are no other options, or acceptable in casual conversation.

How do I know this? My sister is 30 years a professional translator. She collects translation clangers for laughs. The problem is always idioms that are normal to every language. For an apropos example, the simple english phrase "out of sight, out of mind" was translate from english to russian and then from russian back to english. The result was the phrase "invisible lunatic". While that has a certain strange logic to it, clearly the idiom has literally been lost in translation.



And don't ask for a reference. That one dates back to the '90s so no hope of that.
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That may be an urban legend. Here's the same story, except the language is Japanese.
https://talesfromthemindofkristian....unatic-languages-are-so-much-more-than-words/

In a case where both sides have translators, the translators themselves will consult each other about slang and idioms. Even British and American English have some disparities. A Russian translator trained in British English might not grasp Trumpisms without some help from the American.
 
I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!
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Does anyone actually buy into this?
 
Upchurch said:
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Does anyone actually buy into this?
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If the Dems succeed in taking back either or both houses of Congress, he can say it was because of Russian meddling. Of course, their meddling didn't help him in 2016...

His base supporters believe everything he says. Those with an IQ slightly higher know he lies. They just don't care because he going to "MAGA".
 
Let's not dismiss this scenario too easily.

Russian intelligence may very well work to carry this out, if only to muddy the waters even more. Putin always has a bag of tricks he's used for decades, and Americans keep falling for it because for most people, every action is relatively cut and dried, with no deeper method. A lot of Trump's opponents' collusion jokes for instance; Trump meeting his handler or his boss, "collusion in plain sight", may not be so plain.
 
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