The Trump/Putin summit predictions thread

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Minoosh said:
Trump may have *NO IDEA* what he agreed to.
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McFaul's take on this :
McFaul said Mueller’s indictment is full of “data and evidence,” while he called the Putin allegations a “cockamamie scheme.” He said he has lawyers and legal avenues to block the move if Trump grants Putin access. He called the episode shocking and said it will have a dampening effect on diplomacy.
“What I fear, because President Trump is probably not as conversant in these issues as he should be, or most certainly as conversant as Putin is, is that he probably just nodded along,” McFaul said. “That’s just perfect for Vladimir Putin.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...k-mulling-putin-interrogation-bid-mcfaul-says


A confused old man just nodding along is exactly how I picture it.
 
Sabrina said:
Who were the two who voted yes??:boggled:
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Sorry, I misheard. However I can think of one guy in the House who would probably be OK with it.

Something I'm not clear on: Was the proposal ever to send the ambassador to Russia, or would Russians interview him on U.S. soil?
 
CapelDodger said:
McFaul's take on this :
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Watch Trump start to call him "McFail."

I really, really think America owes Putin a public apology for America's foolish behavior.

ETA: Or maybe we should just plant a story that he has done/is going to make one. That goes viral.

ETA2: "McFail" actually sounds more like one of the boards pro-Putin posters - have not seem CE weigh in on any of this.
 
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Found this gem on Russia Today:

However, the fact that Trump won’t be able to implement such a plan due to the extreme acrimony back home - much of it pure hyperbole - seems to indicate that Putin called Mueller’s bluff. After all, if there was any ironclad proof of Russian involvement in the ‘hacking’ of the DNC servers, there would be no hesitation on the part of US officials to travel to Russia and present it.
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Seriously? The jury is the one that gets a presentation of ironclad proof. Russia/Russians don't have a vote. But this means Mueller has something to hide, right?

Right ...

ETA2: Also Ecuador is planning to "hand over" Julian Assange to the UK - which is not how other outlets are playing that.
 
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Nine posts dragged off to AAH, kicking and screaming. If you really want to talk about Clinton, then please consider one of the many Clinton threads (or if necessary, start a new one). This thread, on the other hand, isn't for that sort of thing.
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CapelDodger said:
Trump has to go. My money's on the 25th Amendment.
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I'll take that bet.

The only thing that will remove him from office before 2024 is a (heaven forbid!) medical event.

I am looking forward to Trump/Putin II, though.

Someone should keep watch on Lenin's Mausoleum to see if a smile breaks out on VI's lips when the modern-day Vlad takes a dump in the Oval Office toilet.
 
I could see something really bad coming out of the Cohen recordings and Trump using a medical condition as an excuse to resign. If he leaves before 2020 it will be by his choice. One or two more major humiliations like Helsinki and he might decide he needs to leave.
 
Don't think he considers it a humiliation. I think he reckons he did a great job and it's just the #FakeMedia causing controversy.
 
The Atheist said:
I'll take that bet.

The only thing that will remove him from office before 2024 is a (heaven forbid!) medical event.

I am looking forward to Trump/Putin II, though.

Someone should keep watch on Lenin's Mausoleum to see if a smile breaks out on VI's lips when the modern-day Vlad takes a dump in the Oval Office toilet.
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I'd say there's less that a 50% chance he'll even be on the ballot in 2020, but if he is, virtually no chance of being reelected. Depending on his magic 40% is a serious error which I hope all Republicans will make.
 
WilliamSeger said:
I'd say there's less that a 50% chance he'll even be on the ballot in 2020, but if he is, virtually no chance of being reelected. Depending on his magic 40% is a serious error which I hope all Republicans will make.
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I wish I shared your optimism. The Dems need a charismatic candidate like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. They aren't available, and I'm not seeing anyone else just now.
 
Trebuchet said:
I wish I shared your optimism. The Dems need a charismatic candidate like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. They aren't available, and I'm not seeing anyone else just now.
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The Don said:
I tend to agree with Trebuchet
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Like all elections, 2018 an 2020 will depend on two factors: voter opinions and turnout. Democrats know by now that it's virtually impossible to get Trump's 40% to change their opinion of this turd, so they will focus on that second factor. While there hasn't been much change in the "approve/disapprove" numbers, there has been a hardening: Trump's "strongly disapprove" number is now greater than 40%.

But my prediction is mainly based on where I think the Mueller investigation is going: I still believe that we will eventually find out why Trump is acting guilty as hell, and even low-information voters will know about it.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Like all elections, 2018 an 2020 will depend on two factors: voter opinions and turnout. Democrats know by now that it's virtually impossible to get Trump's 40% to change their opinion of this turd, so they will focus on that second factor. While there hasn't been much change in the "approve/disapprove" numbers, there has been a hardening: Trump's "strongly disapprove" number is now greater than 40%.

But my prediction is mainly based on where I think the Mueller investigation is going: I still believe that we will eventually find out why Trump is acting guilty as hell, and even low-information voters will know about it...
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...and believe when he says "Fake News".
 
Trebuchet said:
...and believe when he says "Fake News".
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That's why there's no point in wasting time and effort trying to reach out to that 40% (ETA: which is not to say that some of them might figure it out on thier own). To be sure, Democrats will run "negative" ads that hit Republicans hard for what they and their leader have been doing, but they will also be talking about issues where there have a decided advantage in public opinion.
 
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Trebuchet said:
I wish I shared your optimism. The Dems need a charismatic candidate like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. They aren't available, and I'm not seeing anyone else just now.
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Personally I think we need someone like Tammy Duckworth to run.

About the only issue I think someone could raise with her is the minor possibility that she was born in Thailand to an American father and Thai mother, but as I understand the "natural-born" thing, she's automatically a citizen simply by virtue of her father being an American, so it wouldn't be an issue, I believe (but I could be wrong). Sure, Repubs would hate her voting record, but she has virtually NOTHING in her background that anyone can pick on, and she's a decorated war hero and disabled veteran to boot. I would defy Trump to find ANYTHING about her to pick on, and she's taken him to task more than once.

Barring her, I'd like to see Joe Biden run, maybe with her as VP.
 
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