Guns for Kindergarteners!

[Fudbucker]

"WATCH: Sacha Baron Cohen Dupes GOP Pols With ‘Kinder-Guardians’ Guns for Toddlers Program"

"As it turns out, Kinder-Guardians, the name for the fictional program to get guns into the hands of children under age 7, garnered supportive on-camera statements from a handful of Republican politicians.

A 3-year-old cannot defend itself from an assault rifle by throwing a Hello Kitty pencil case at it,” says Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC). “The Founding Fathers didn’t put an age limit on the Second Amendment.”

Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott also said he was on board, calling the plan one that “America would be wise to implement.”

“It’s something we should think about in America, about putting guns in the hands of law abiding citizens, good guys, whether they be teachers or whether they actually be talented children or highly trained preschoolers,” he says.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-s...h-kinder-guardians-guns-for-toddlers-program/

Republicans, WTF happened to you guys?

 

[fagin]

I'm guessing those were actual, real politicians reading that stuff?

Seriously?

There are no words.

 

[Fudbucker]

I'm guessing those were actual, real politicians reading that stuff?

Seriously?

There are no words.

Those are actual elected Republicans (Trent Lott is retired), but one of them (Walsh) claims he was reading off a teleprompter and it was made to seem like those are his own words. We'll see what defense the others have (if they even feel the need to be defensive).

 

[fagin]

Those are actual elected Republicans (Trent Lott is retired), but one of them (Walsh) claims he was reading off a teleprompter and it was made to seem like those are his own words. We'll see what defense the others have (if they even feel the need to be defensive).

I realised they were reading some of it, but there are still no words...

I would hope one can read and think at the same time.

 

[Hungry81]

What is the objection?

None, none at all. A bunch of preschoolers with loaded weapons will just make things that more realistic when they play cops and robbers. Also they now have a valid remedy and an equilisation of power when the teacher tries to change their nappy without consent or tells them it's nap time.

 

[Craig4]

Those are actual elected Republicans (Trent Lott is retired), but one of them (Walsh) claims he was reading off a teleprompter and it was made to seem like those are his own words. We'll see what defense the others have (if they even feel the need to be defensive).

Moron still fell for it.

 

[Stacyhs]

Good Lord. Scary, ain't it? But am I surprised? No.

 

[Fudbucker]

Moron still fell for it.

That's true. If they read it from a prompter, they still chose to read it aloud.

 

[bruto]

Toddlers aren't responsible enough to be thrown into a swimming pool unattended. But we give toddlers swimming lessons anyway. How do we manage the risk?

is that a serious question? We manage the risk by not throwing toddlers unattended into the pool, but instead attending them and teaching them to swim so that at a somewhat later age they will be able to swim in a pool without drowning (and also because it's the sort of thing many kids enjoy learning), thus making sure that when they become older they do not drown as nonswimmers of any age may.

 

[thaiboxerken]

If toddlers can go to court to plea their cases, surely they can have guns.

 

[smartcooky]

is that a serious question? We manage the risk by not throwing toddlers unattended into the pool, but instead attending them and teaching them to swim so that at a somewhat later age they will be able to swim in a pool without drowning (and also because it's the sort of thing many kids enjoy learning), thus making sure that when they become older they do not drown as nonswimmers of any age may.

Not to mention that a toddler can't pull the swimming pool's trigger and blow the head off another toddler, or a teacher.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

To be clear, the specific scenario in the video is arming 3 year olds in schools, to prevent school shootings. Whether or not you think that's a ridiculous proposal is entirely down to the individual. If anybody in the video thought it was ridiculous they didn't voice that opinion, and the vast majority endorsed it wholeheartedly.

 

[Sideroxylon]

To be clear, the specific scenario in the video is arming 3 year olds in schools, to prevent school shootings. Whether or not you think that's a ridiculous proposal is entirely down to the individual. If anybody in the video thought it was ridiculous they didn't voice that opinion, and the vast majority endorsed it wholeheartedly.

Is there any doubt that putting such a plan into action would not lead to tragedy? It is lunacy.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Is there any doubt that putting such a plan into action would not lead to tragedy?

The people in the video.

It is lunacy.

Hence the video.

 

[ddt]

To be clear, the specific scenario in the video is arming 3 year olds in schools, to prevent school shootings. Whether or not you think that's a ridiculous proposal is entirely down to the individual. If anybody in the video thought it was ridiculous they didn't voice that opinion, and the vast majority endorsed it wholeheartedly.

No, all of the guys in the video endorsed it wholeheartedly. And none of the guys who Sasha Baron Cohen approached and who didn't end up in the video, said it was outright lunacy.

 

[phiwum]

Is there any doubt that putting such a plan into action would not lead to tragedy? It is lunacy.

Er, I doubt that it would not lead to tragedy.

I don't doubt that it would lead to tragedy.

Yeah, yeah, I know I shouldn't be pointing out a silly typo, but I'm a weak man.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

No, all of the guys in the video endorsed it wholeheartedly.

Matt Gaetz didn't.

And none of the guys who Sasha Baron Cohen approached and who didn't end up in the video, said it was outright lunacy.

It's a little hard to determine exactly what you're saying, here. If you're saying that people who said it was ridiculous wouldn't be included in the video, then there's a high chance that you're right, given that it's for a comedy TV series. However, Cohen has aired interviews in which the subject comes out well. The most notable for me was when he interviewed Tony Benn:



It doesn't seem unlikely to me that if someone had stood up to Cohen's new character the way Benn stood up to Ali G that it would be included in the video.

 

[ddt]

Matt Gaetz didn't.

It's a little hard to determine exactly what you're saying, here. If you're saying that people who said it was ridiculous wouldn't be included in the video, then there's a high chance that you're right, given that it's for a comedy TV series.

Butt Matt Gaetz was not in the video, to my recollection.

I'm saying there are two categories of persons Sasha Baron Cohen approached:
1) those who got on the video and fully endorsed Kinder-Guardians
2) those who refused to get on video or to endorse the proposal (like Matt Gaetz) but didn't reject it either;
and that a third category is entirely absent:
3) those who refused to get on video and called it for what it is, lunacy.

However, Cohen has aired interviews in which the subject comes out well. The most notable for me was when he interviewed Tony Benn:



It doesn't seem unlikely to me that if someone had stood up to Cohen's new character the way Benn stood up to Ali G that it would be included in the video.

A one-on-one with Tony Benn is quite something different than a video featuring several people.

 

[angrysoba]

The only fear I have about this kind of thing is that by forcing out the crazy, the crazy is rationalized as just one of many opinions and soon is not considered crazy. In the same way that pretty much everyone thought voting for Donald Trump to become president was a stupid, crazy joke and was even the punchline for television comedians, so too does arming kindergartners cease to be a joke, but something that actually happens.

 

[phiwum]

The only fear I have about this kind of thing is that by forcing out the crazy, the crazy is rationalized as just one of many opinions and soon is not considered crazy. In the same way that pretty much everyone thought voting for Donald Trump to become president was a stupid, crazy joke and was even the punchline for television comedians, so too does arming kindergartners cease to be a joke, but something that actually happens.

Yeah, doubtful. That's a step too far.

Or I'm a hopeless optimist, which really isn't how most folk regard me.