Cont: Breaking: Mueller Grand Jury charges filed, arrests as soon as Monday pt 2

[CapelDodger]

JDA's apply to targets, subjects and/or defendants ...

In which of those categories do you include witnesses?

... in:

As currently construed, so long as the parties have a common interest and have engaged in a joint effort to defend their clients in actual or potential litigation

Said parties being lawyers, not witnesses.

Thus under no circumstances is there a requirement that an indictment be returned. The article makes this spectacularly clear. Do you understand this? Yes or No.

Of course people can be witnesses without there being an indictment. That's hardly the point, is it?

I am not going to walk people through basic principles that have already been thoroughly explained.

Nobody'd be fool enough to follow you.

 

[The Big Dog]

rubs temples....

folks, you realize that subjects and targets and defendants are all also "witnesses"?

I mean, y'all get that right?

By the way, did anyone actually look at Rudy's entire comments? (TBD did, it seems no one else did).

“I have a pretty good idea because I have seen all the documents that they have,” Giuliani said. “We have debriefed all their witnesses. And we have pressed them numerous times.”

“You have debriefed all of their witnesses?” Bash asked.

“I think so, I mean, the ones that were — the ones that were involved in the joint defense agreement, which constitutes all the critical ones,” Giuliani replied.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ition-to-team-mueller/?utm_term=.6c2eb755c9f9

Thanks for bringing the facts TBD!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

"Ex-FBI LAYER Lisa Page today defied a House of Representatives issued Subpoena to testify before Congress! Wow, but is anybody really surprised! Together with her lover, FBI Agent Peter Strzok, she worked on the Rigged Witch Hunt, perhaps the most tainted and corrupt case EVER!"

 

[Regnad Kcin]

I love that Trump believes that this is a witch hunt that will produce no evidence of collusion, but also he needs to "debrief" people to bolster his defense. How do people believe anything this clueless tit says?

Come now, tits are wonderful, with several fine characteristics.

Trump is a tit? I ask you sir, what has a tit ever done to you?

 

[theprestige]

I love that Trump believes that this is a witch hunt that will produce no evidence of collusion, but also he needs to "debrief" people to bolster his defense. How do people believe anything this clueless tit says?

Call me crazy, but I think it's perfectly reasonable for an innocent person to simultaneously proclaim their innocence, and try to mount a strong legal defense.

It remains to be seen if Trump really is innocent, but why would you not expect an innocent person to do those two things?

 

[acbytesla]

Call me crazy, but I think it's perfectly reasonable for an innocent person to simultaneously proclaim their innocence, and try to mount a strong legal defense.

It remains to be seen if Trump really is innocent, but why would you not expect an innocent person to do those two things?

But that ISN'T what Trump is doing. He is calling the investigation into Russian interference in US elections a 'witch hunt' which it clearly is not. He is saying that there is nothing that should make anyone highly suspicious when in fact there is a lot of highly suspicious activity by Flynn, Manafort, Sessions, Don Jr., himself and others.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

"How can the Rigged Witch Hunt proceed when it was started, influenced and worked on, for an extended period of time, by former FBI Agent/Lover Peter Strzok? Read his hate filled and totally biased Emails and the answer is clear!"

Do you think he is tweeting this live from Europe or did he leave a few for someone to tweet for him at regular intervals?

 

[theprestige]

Trump Tweets

"How can the Rigged Witch Hunt proceed when it was started, influenced and worked on, for an extended period of time, by former FBI Agent/Lover Peter Strzok? Read his hate filled and totally biased Emails and the answer is clear!"

Do you think he is tweeting this live from Europe or did he leave a few for someone to tweet for him at regular intervals?

I doubt even the president of the United States has anything as sophisticated as a global communications network that integrates with a handheld radio to allow him to send brief text messages to the public from anywhere in the world.

 

[CapelDodger]

But that ISN'T what Trump is doing. He is calling the investigation into Russian interference in US elections a 'witch hunt' which it clearly is not. He is saying that there is nothing that should make anyone highly suspicious when in fact there is a lot of highly suspicious activity by Flynn, Manafort, Sessions, Don Jr., himself and others.

Exactly.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump Tweets

"Ex-FBI LAYER Lisa Page today defied a House of Representatives issued Subpoena to testify before Congress! Wow, but is anybody really surprised! Together with her lover, FBI Agent Peter Strzok, she worked on the Rigged Witch Hunt, perhaps the most tainted and corrupt case EVER!"

Those were close to Hannity's exact words yesterday.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump Tweets

"How can the Rigged Witch Hunt proceed when it was started, influenced and worked on, for an extended period of time, by former FBI Agent/Lover Peter Strzok? Read his hate filled and totally biased Emails and the answer is clear!"

Do you think he is tweeting this live from Europe or did he leave a few for someone to tweet for him at regular intervals?

Someone TIVOed* Hannity for him and he Tweeted after watching yesterday's show.

*Or On-demand or whatever.

 

[plague311]

Come now, tits are wonderful, with several fine characteristics.

Trump is a tit? I ask you sir, what has a tit ever done to you?

Lol I will admit when I am wrong. I have never had a negative experience with a tit that I can remember. You are correct.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

 

[theprestige]

Exactly.

Exactly? Manafort is being prosecuted for stuff unrelated to the actual investigation. Flynn's on the hook for a process crime, over something that isn't actually suspicious at all. What am I missing?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Exactly? Manafort is being prosecuted for stuff unrelated to the actual investigation. Flynn's on the hook for a process crime, over something that isn't actually suspicious at all. What am I missing?

Let me see:
you have two people you find out used to shoplift ... and then someone put them in charge of the biggest candy-store in the world.
Wouldn't you do an inventory check, just to be sure? And ask their employer why they got the job?

 

[varwoche]

Exactly? Manafort is being prosecuted for stuff unrelated to the actual investigation. Flynn's on the hook for a process crime, over something that isn't actually suspicious at all. What am I missing?

The fact that Manafort was acting as a Russian agent while serving as Trump's campaign manager is most certainly related to the investigation.

 

[Stacko]

The fact that Manafort was acting as a Russian agent while serving as Trump's campaign manager is most certainly related to the investigation.

To be fair Giuliani and Flynn also failed to comply with FARA. Hell Flynn plotted with his large adult son to kidnap an American citizen and turn that person over to Turkey and neither he nor junior have been charged with anything to do with that as well for some reason. There seems to be a common factor amongst those advising Daft Taft.

 

[theprestige]

Let me see:
you have two people you find out used to shoplift ... and then someone put them in charge of the biggest candy-store in the world.
Wouldn't you do an inventory check, just to be sure? And ask their employer why they got the job?

Arguments by analogy don't interest me. Discuss the thing in its own terms, or not at all.

 

[Lurch]

Exactly? Manafort is being prosecuted for stuff unrelated to the actual investigation. Flynn's on the hook for a process crime, over something that isn't actually suspicious at all. What am I missing?

You keep bringing up this "process crime" thing for those who are cooperating. That's what they pled *down* to. What other bigger charges were they facing, which lead to accepting the charge(s) now on the books?

That plot of Flynn 'n kin to kidnap a Turkish cleric and turn him over to Erdogan, for a million bucks or two. Could be there was legal jeopardy there. To name just one potential charge not now levied in exchange for his cooperation.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Thanks for bringing the facts TBD!

While you're in a fact-bringing mood, can you explain what you believe the word "debriefed" means in this context?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Arguments by analogy don't interest me. Discuss the thing in its own terms, or not at all.

evasion.