Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

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jimbob said:
Talking about snowflakes:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/present...l-farage-hammers-sadiq-khan-trump-baby-blimp/
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But, Nigel had a question: “Would you have allowed this to happen if it was of Obama?”

He fumed: “Sadiq, you might not like Mr Trump, you might not like his style, you might find him very confrontational and you didn't like the so-called Muslim ban.

“But Sadiq where were you when President Obama introduced a total ban on refugees coming from seven predominantly Muslim countries?
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Tough question.

Where would he be when something never happened?

It's interesting that they need to use outright lies to try and support their tirades. Pitiful when they are so easily debunked.
 
KDLarsen said:
Problematic to say the least. I have no love lost for persons of his ilk, but it's shameful that the jail cannot otherwise guarantee his safety.
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What else do you think they should do if he really is in exceptional danger?

Pretty much anyone who is in jail is going to be facing a certain amount of risk, but for some reason that doesn't seem to bother some people when it's just the plebeian classes. Prison reform never seems to be high on the list of conservative priorities.


I wonder who they are protecting him from?

What would make him any different from any other white collar guy waiting for trial that can't be trusted out on bail? Are they all always in solitary "to guarantee [their] safety"?

Could it be that the real reason might actually be to keep him from trying to intimidate or compromise any more witnesses?
 
KDLarsen said:
Problematic to say the least. I have no love lost for persons of his ilk, but it's shameful that the jail cannot otherwise guarantee his safety.
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Is it not standard in USA prisons for prisoners in similar circumstances?

And let's be clear, he is only in prison at the moment because he has already breached his conditions of bail and likely committed further offences.
 
varwoche said:
That's an ugly accusation to glibly toss about, especially directed to someone like The Don who clearly is not a Trump supporter.
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The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street

Eta:
The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices – to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill – and suspicion can destroy – and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own – for the children – and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is – that these things cannot be confined – to the Twilight Zone.
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Darat said:
Is it not standard in USA prisons for prisoners in similar circumstances?

And let's be clear, he is only in prison at the moment because he has already breached his conditions of bail and likely committed further offences.
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It does seem kind of odd. You would think sending him to the Administrative Segregation Unit (also called snitches and bitches, I shan't elaborate) would be sufficient protection. I kind of wonder I he isn't in solitary to prevent further witness tampering.
 
varwoche said:
That's an ugly accusation to glibly toss about, especially directed to someone like The Don who clearly is not a Trump supporter.
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Guys, guys, let's not fight among ourselves. We have to be united against our common foe, you know, The Big Dog:)
 
The Don said:
A top 40

https://www.thoughtco.com/dumbest-bush-quotes-of-all-time-2734076

Admittedly not as long as President Trump's but then again Dubya didn't speak for hours at a time unscripted.
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Maybe not hours, but one liners aren't much of a comparison either. With enough public speaking events many people are going to rack them up (although Dubya did seem to manage more than his share).

Can you find any examples of the sort of sustained gibberish that Trump spews out? A couple of paragraphs? One?
 
quadraginta said:
Maybe not hours, but one liners aren't much of a comparison either. With enough public speaking events many people are going to rack them up (although Dubya did seem to manage more than his share).

Can you find any examples of the sort of sustained gibberish that Trump spews out? A couple of paragraphs? One?
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Remember that The Don was comparing Trump with someone with quite severe dementia.
 
quadraginta said:
Maybe not hours, but one liners aren't much of a comparison either. With enough public speaking events many people are going to rack them up (although Dubya did seem to manage more than his share).

Can you find any examples of the sort of sustained gibberish that Trump spews out? A couple of paragraphs? One?
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And it's not just the gibberish. The things he says clearly, despite the remarkable rarity of such utterances, are just as bad if not worse in terms of pegging him as anti-democratic, bigoted, narcissistic on a grand scale, and an overall ignoramus.
 
Craig4 said:
It does seem kind of odd. You would think sending him to the Administrative Segregation Unit (also called snitches and bitches, I shan't elaborate) would be sufficient protection. I kind of wonder I he isn't in solitary to prevent further witness tampering.
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"Solitary" conjures all kinds of evil images. If they called it something like "the VIP suites," we'd think differently. At least Manafort knows he's getting a trial in a couple months. Convicted inmates in supermax prisons are kept in what amounts to solitary forever.

And this jail looks like a modern, relatively comfortable facility. It's not like sending him to the Angola Farm.
http://www.nnrj.state.va.us/index.html
 
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The Don said:
I'm not defending his rambling, I'm suggesting that using it to try and demonstrate that he is mentally unfit to be President is pointless, and in my own opinion inaccurate. In that, I mean that I think is a terrible President for many reasons but he is not mentally disqualified in my inexpert opinion.
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Typical: taking some single aspect of Trump in isolation and declaring it isn't a symptom of his pathology.

He is mentally unfit because his personality disorder prevents him from acting in the country's best interest and he's incompetent. That rambling about beating all of Elton John's records without an organ had evidence of both.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
I had thought your posts were just pessimistic. Now I see there is Trump support in them.
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varwoche said:
That's an ugly accusation to glibly toss about, especially directed to someone like The Don who clearly is not a Trump supporter.
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TBF, I was addressing his post which was normalizing Trump's behavior. I should have been more clear that normalizing Trump's behavior was an issue.

Skeptic Ginger said:
I'll take your word for it you don't support Trump. Not sure then why you defend his mindless rambling.
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LSSBB said:
The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street
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:rolleyes:
 
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varwoche said:
That's an ugly accusation to glibly toss about, especially directed to someone like The Don who clearly is not a Trump supporter.
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Is Trump so bad that calling someone a supporter of him is an "ugly accusation"? Yes. And that's why I think we're headed down an ugly path. I can't see Trump supporters as anything other than idiots or racists or misogynists (or some combination of the three), and I'm sure they have similar labels for me. The difference is, I'm on the right side.
 
Darat said:
Strange, uncompleted security clearance seems to be fine if you work with Trump in the Whitehouse....
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They aren't being discharged for that. Soldiers don't have to have security clearances. And they wouldn't be put in a job that requires one if they aren't citizens.

It's a BS excuse.
 
Trump Tweets

"Twitter is getting rid of fake accounts at a record pace. Will that include the Failing New York Times and propaganda machine for Amazon, the Washington Post, who constantly quote anonymous sources that, in my opinion, don’t exist - They will both be out of business in 7 years!"
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"Twitter is getting rid of fake accounts at a record pace. Will that include the Failing New York Times and propaganda machine for Amazon, the Washington Post, who constantly quote anonymous sources that, in my opinion, don’t exist - They will both be out of business in 7 years!"
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Is Trumpy fantasizing about grinding them under by the end of his second term?
 
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