Cont: Breaking: Mueller Grand Jury charges filed, arrests as soon as Monday pt 2

[theprestige]

Not to mention taking evidence as if each piece existed only in isolation.

When you give a single piece of evidence in isolation, and it turns out to not support your claim, that's on you. Any argument that depends on people connecting the dots for you, and starts with a dot that isn't actually connected to the claim, is a woo argument. This is nobody's fault but your own.

 

[The Big Dog]

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1012692904605831168

He testified with the honesty and integrity that marked his law enforcement career, huh?

“The predominant reason that we communicated on our work phones was because we were trying to keep our affair a secret from our spouses," Page told the IG.

So, we should expect to see the lying sleazebag up on perjury charges shortly.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

The first sentence puts the lie to your canard that this is about not knowing how plea deals work.

If you say so.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

He testified with the honesty and integrity that marked his law enforcement career, huh?

“The predominant reason that we communicated on our work phones was because we were trying to keep our affair a secret from our spouses," Page told the IG.

So, we should expect to see the lying sleazebag up on perjury charges shortly.

You think his marriage was his law enforcement career?

 

[The Big Dog]

You think his marriage was his law enforcement career?

"we communicated on our work phones was because we were trying to keep our affair a secret from our spouses."

and yeah, I would call sharing secrets with his co-worker while he was drilling her misty cave part of his "distinquished" law enforcement career.

 

[Ziggurat]

He testified with the honesty and integrity that marked his law enforcement career, huh?

Are you trying to impugn the honesty and integrity of his testimony? Bah!

He testified with the honesty and integrity that marked his marriage.

 

[theprestige]

If you say so.

I do say so. If you think I'm overlooking something about how plea deals work, or about how this particular plea deal is working out, please supply the missing info here.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I do say so. If you think I'm overlooking something about how plea deals work, or about how this particular plea deal is working out, please supply the missing info here.

You're overlooking the nature of the investigation that they were part of, and that the fact that they took plea deals means that there are other, larger crimes they could have been charged with. You're also obfuscating by bringing up "Russian collusion" in the first place WRT guilty pleas, and being disingenuous by pretending that these guilty pleas are the only evidence that exists rather than the only guilty pleas that have thus far been made.

You're welcome.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

"we communicated on our work phones was because we were trying to keep our affair a secret from our spouses."

Correct. And?

and yeah, I would call sharing secrets with his co-worker while he was drilling her misty cave part of his "distinquished" law enforcement career.

Are you claiming that he shared information with Page that Page was not authorised to have access to? Can you provide a citation for that claim, please?

 

[The Greater Fool]

Gosh, it's like an episode of marital infidelity is a blot on an FBI agent's character. Serial infidelity, on the other hand is... Presidential?

 

[The Big Dog]

Correct.

There ya go, they were using their work phones to hide their affair, which shows that their sleazy, tawdry dishonest affair was intimately involved with his FBI career, thank god we got that figured out.

here is a cite you requested, as always, my pleasure.

Adulterous duo bypassed chain of command

 

[Ziggurat]

Gosh, it's like an episode of marital infidelity is a blot on an FBI agent's character. Serial infidelity, on the other hand is... Presidential?

Bill already proved that.

 

[Cain]

Bill already proved that.

Presidents didn't cheat on their wives before Clinton. Trump's such a noble believer in marriage that he's gone down the aisle multiple times.

 

[Ziggurat]

Presidents didn't cheat on their wives before Clinton.

Of course they did. But the public was kept in the dark about it.

 

[Emily's Cat]

You're overlooking the nature of the investigation that they were part of, and that the fact that they took plea deals means that there are other, larger crimes they could have been charged with. You're also obfuscating by bringing up "Russian collusion" in the first place WRT guilty pleas, and being disingenuous by pretending that these guilty pleas are the only evidence that exists rather than the only guilty pleas that have thus far been made.

You're welcome.

Okay, that's fair. Now to the meat of the matter:

What larger crimes do you KNOW that they could have been charged with? Not what you *speculate* that they *might* have *maybe* been charged with, but that you KNOW were on the table as charges?

What is the other evidence do you KNOW exists outside of these guilty please that supports the allegation of conspiracy to commit election fraud? Not other evidence that you *speculate* *might* exist, but that you KNOW exists?

 

[theprestige]

You're overlooking the nature of the investigation that they were part of, and that the fact that they took plea deals means that there are other, larger crimes they could have been charged with. You're also obfuscating by bringing up "Russian collusion" in the first place WRT guilty pleas, and being disingenuous by pretending that these guilty pleas are the only evidence that exists rather than the only guilty pleas that have thus far been made.

You're welcome.

Keep in mind that this conversation started another thread, because SG presented this stuff specifically, as evidence of the alleged conspiracy.

It's not really about how plea bargains work, it's about what you think this particular plea bargain means. If you don't think this plea bargain stands on its own as evidence, then let's talk about the other evidence. What should SG have led with? What evidence would you lead with, if you weren't stuck explaining how plea bargains work.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Okay, that's fair. Now to the meat of the matter:

What larger crimes do you KNOW that they could have been charged with? Not what you *speculate* that they *might* have *maybe* been charged with, but that you KNOW were on the table as charges?

What is the other evidence do you KNOW exists outside of these guilty please that supports the allegation of conspiracy to commit election fraud? Not other evidence that you *speculate* *might* exist, but that you KNOW exists?

In Flynn's case, he was allegedly paid by the government of Turkey to represent its interests to the U.S. government. The Foreign Agents Registration Act requires that people acting in such a capacity "disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances." The penalty for violating the FARA is, at absolute worst, 5 years in prison.

Flynn did not register.

Flynn has not been charged for this, even though federal prosecutors made note of this alleged violation in court filings that were made along with he plea deal.

 

[NoahFence]

Okay, that's fair. Now to the meat of the matter:

What larger crimes do you KNOW that they could have been charged with? Not what you *speculate* that they *might* have *maybe* been charged with, but that you KNOW were on the table as charges?

What is the other evidence do you KNOW exists outside of these guilty please that supports the allegation of conspiracy to commit election fraud? Not other evidence that you *speculate* *might* exist, but that you KNOW exists?

Uh...

You do know the investigation is ongoing, right?

 

[theprestige]

Uh...

You do know the investigation is ongoing, right?

That's the nice thing about an unopened box: you can still imagine anything you want inside.

 

[theprestige]

In Flynn's case, he was allegedly paid by the government of Turkey to represent its interests to the U.S. government. The Foreign Agents Registration Act requires that people acting in such a capacity "disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances." The penalty for violating the FARA is, at absolute worst, 5 years in prison.

Flynn did not register.

Flynn has not been charged for this, even though federal prosecutors made note of this alleged violation in court filings that were made along with he plea deal.

You think the plea deal might be evidence of that?