Cont: Breaking: Mueller Grand Jury charges filed, arrests as soon as Monday pt 2

[Skeptic Ginger]

Between the SCOTUS vacancy after the last pick was stolen, Trump's meeting with Putin, holding immigrant children hostage with Trump denying the law that says those immigrants have a right to a hearing, Trump claiming he can pardon, himself, and the 2018 election coming up in a little over 4 months,...

Can you imagine what's going to happen when the Mueller **** hits the fan?

SCOTUS interfered in the election giving us Bush by stopping the FL recount, and SCOTUS' failed to stop gerrymandering and allowed vote suppressing voter ID laws both which allowed the GOP to rig the elections.

 

[Cain]

Between the SCOTUS vacancy after the last pick was stolen, Trump's meeting with Putin, holding immigrant children hostage with Trump denying the law that says those immigrants have a right to a hearing, Trump claiming he can pardon, himself, and the 2018 election coming up in a little over 4 months,...

As far as I know, Trump's approval ratings are up. As for the Mueller thing, it's been so built up that if he doesn't have incriminating audio, Trump's not going anywhere. Hell, the Access Hollywood wasn't enough. We already know about the Tower meeting, and people don't give a ****.

 

[plague311]

As far as I know, Trump's approval ratings are up. As for the Mueller thing, it's been so built up that if he doesn't have incriminating audio, Trump's not going anywhere. Hell, the Access Hollywood wasn't enough. We already know about the Tower meeting, and people don't give a ****.

It's true. Everyone seems to be banking on the Mueller investigation, but I feel like this has been Trump's plan all along. He's done such terrible **** to so many different people that by the time this investigation is done, it will seem like child's play. There is absolutely no doubt that Trump has committed a myriad of white collar crimes. I just doubt he'll get pegged for any of it.

 

[Segnosaur]

SCOTUS interfered in the election giving us Bush by stopping the FL recount...

A little off topic, but I think it needs to be said:

While it is true that the supreme court limited the time available for recounts in florida, that doesn't necessarily mean they incorrectly made bush president.

In fact, post-election analysis has shown that either candidate could in theory have won had more time been given to do the recounts, depending on how the recount was done (recount of the entire state vs. only districts requested by Democrats, how spoiled ballots were counted, etc.)

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics/bush-gore-2000-election-results-studies/index.html

Now, I do agree with the other stuff you said... about conservatives on the supreme court allowing voter surpression, etc.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

It's true. Everyone seems to be banking on the Mueller investigation, but I feel like this has been Trump's plan all along. He's done such terrible **** to so many different people that by the time this investigation is done, it will seem like child's play. There is absolutely no doubt that Trump has committed a myriad of white collar crimes. I just doubt he'll get pegged for any of it.

For the record, there's no doubt Trump is trying to discredit the Mueller investigation. Nixon lost that bet too.

Depends on the evidence, even with Trump. We aren't talking about grabbing pussy here. We are talking about money laundering, bribes and there might even be disdain for voters on Cohen's tapes.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

A little off topic, but I think it needs to be said:

While it is true that the supreme court limited the time available for recounts in florida, that doesn't necessarily mean they incorrectly made bush president.

In fact, post-election analysis has shown that either candidate could in theory have won had more time been given to do the recounts, depending on how the recount was done (recount of the entire state vs. only districts requested by Democrats, how spoiled ballots were counted, etc.)

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics/bush-gore-2000-election-results-studies/index.html

Now, I do agree with the other stuff you said... about conservatives on the supreme court allowing voter surpression, etc.

I'm not going to rehash that **** here except to say, the recount should have been statewide and both Gore and the SCOTUS got it wrong.

But the SCOTUS had no right intervening in the state election.

 

[The Don]

As far as I know, Trump's approval ratings are up. As for the Mueller thing, it's been so built up that if he doesn't have incriminating audio, Trump's not going anywhere. Hell, the Access Hollywood wasn't enough. We already know about the Tower meeting, and people don't give a ****.

Access Hollywood has shown that incriminating audio isn't effective, it's need to be incriminating video IMO and even then 40% of the US electorate would claim that it had been faked and/or taken out of context

IMO at this stage, the only people who care about Mueller are those who are already anti President Trump.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Manafort got a $10m loan from Oleg Deripaska

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1012121253447176192

[...]For months I obsessed over Manafort, a man who is accustomed to making millions a year and has no history of volunteerism, working "for free" for Trump. I said it was suspicious as hell. Now we know Putin pal Oleg Deripaska "loaned" Manafort $10 million.

2/ Another Putin associate "loaned" Manafort *millions* on the *very day* he left Trump's campaign.

Can we just get this over with and say Trump's campaign manager was being paid by Putin, possibly *with Trump's knowledge*, to help Trump win the election with Russian assistance?

3/ America needs to know *exactly* why and how Manafort was hired "for free," and why Trump's campaign *lied about that repeatedly*.

And as I've threaded about several times in the past, the two men law enforcement needs to talk to on that subject are Mike Flynn and Tom Barrack.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

"Lover FBI Agent Peter Strzok was given poor marks on yesterday’s closed door testimony and, according to most reports, refused to answer many questions. There was no Collusion and the Witch Hunt, headed by 13 Angry Democrats and others who are totally conflicted, is Rigged!"


"Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! Where is the DNC Server, and why didn’t Shady James Comey and the now disgraced FBI agents take and closely examine it? Why isn’t Hillary/Russia being looked at? So many questions, so much corruption!"

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Oh, well, if Russia say they didn't interfere in the election, then 100% of US intelligence agencies who have looked at the evidence must be wrong.

 

[NoahFence]

: the Meuller investigation. It's too damn late. We're a wholly owned subsidiary of Russia.

 

[The Don]

Oh, well, if Russia say they didn't interfere in the election, then 100% of US intelligence agencies who have looked at the evidence must be wrong.

Well obviously they are, after all the intelligence services are part of the Deep State undermining the Trump Presidency

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweeted

"Peter Strzok worked as the leader of the Rigged Witch Hunt for a long period of time - he got it started and was only fired because the gig was up. But remember, he took his orders from Comey and McCabe and they took their orders from you know who. Mueller/Comey best friends!"

"When is Bob Mueller going to list his Conflicts of Interest? Why has it taken so long? Will they be listed at the top of his $22,000,000 Report...And what about the 13 Angry Democrats, will they list their conflicts with Crooked H? How many people will be sent to jail and......"

"....persecuted on old and/or totally unrelated charges (there was no collusion and there was no obstruction of the no collusion)...And what is going on in the FBI & DOJ with Crooked Hillary, the DNC and all of the lies? A disgraceful situation!"

 

[CapelDodger]

Trump Tweeted

"Peter Strzok worked as the leader of the Rigged Witch Hunt for a long period of time - he got it started and was only fired because the gig was up. But remember, he took his orders from Comey and McCabe and they took their orders from you know who. Mueller/Comey best friends!"

"When is Bob Mueller going to list his Conflicts of Interest? Why has it taken so long? Will they be listed at the top of his $22,000,000 Report...And what about the 13 Angry Democrats, will they list their conflicts with Crooked H? How many people will be sent to jail and......"

"....persecuted on old and/or totally unrelated charges (there was no collusion and there was no obstruction of the no collusion)...And what is going on in the FBI & DOJ with Crooked Hillary, the DNC and all of the lies? A disgraceful situation!"

Not that Trump's concerned in the slightest about the matter, of course. Perish the thought.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

"Persecuted" is an interesting choice of word. And it's not a typo on Captain_Swoop's part.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Republicans. The Party of Law and Order, except when it's them being investigated for committing crimes, then it's all a witch hunt.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

A former aide to Roger Stone has been subpoenaed to appear before a grand jury

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Speaking of the party of law and order, wow, this Judiciary Committee hearing questioning Rosenstein and Wray is quite illustrative of the complete breakdown of law and order within a faction in the GOP.

 

[Cain]

Trump Tweets
"Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election! Where is the DNC Server, and why didn’t Shady James Comey and the now disgraced FBI agents take and closely examine it? Why isn’t Hillary/Russia being looked at? So many questions, so much corruption!"

You don't get more deep state and corrupt than Putin.

He also confused "gig" and "jig."

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Issa and Gowdy are in heaven in this hearing reliving their failed Benghazi and emails hearings as if they are now vindicated. They still want to convict Clinton of something, anything.