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The Trump Presidency VII

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"A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never! Their employees and customers are already very angry at them. If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit! The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!"

Harleys are **** anyway. Why would anyone want to buy one apart from nostalgia and a sense of patriotism?


They have a big problem in that their sales are falling as they are seen for what they are, bikes for nostalgic old men.
 
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Trump has an easy option. Just stop with the tariffs. I bet he'd find a willingness on the part of our Western Hemisphere and European partners to take a combined stance on Chinese dumping of steel on all our markets. America First seems to mean that we lose our jobs first.
 
Ha, I love it. So much winning. If liberals lose their **** at Trump 1.0, I can't wait to see all the tears when they get marched off to the concentration camps.
 
Craig4 said:
Trump has an easy option. Just stop with the tariffs. I bet he'd find a willingness on the part of our Western Hemisphere and European partners to take a combined stance on Chinese dumping of steel on all our markets. America First seems to mean that we lose our jobs first.
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I think he has these placebo tariffs - fake tariffs? - that he can impose and cancel at will just because he's figured out they get a reaction. I'm not sure Trump even cares. As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure he doesn't care, as long as someone is paying attention to him. Does he really think promising U.S. consumers they'll pay more for products is a good strategy?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
trump tweets

"A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never! Their employees and customers are already very angry at them. If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit! The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!"

Harleys are **** anyway. Why would anyone want to buy one apart from nostalgia and a sense of patriotism?


They have a big problem in that their sales are falling as they are seen for what they are, bikes for nostalgic old men.
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Does he have no clue there are already Harley factories in a number of countries?
 
Fudbucker said:
The kind of deal I'm talking about is predicated on basic trust between both parties. If Now that that's gone, we're really in trouble.
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Corrected to reflect reality.

The GOP has truly burned that bridge behind them. It will be many decades, if ever, that they will be trusted by any sane mind.

Anyone who ever trusted Trump to begin with was already two wheels short of a dog cart.
 
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quadraginta said:
Corrected to reflect reality.

The GOP has truly burned that bridge behind them. It will be many decades, if ever, that they will be trusted by any sane mind.

Anyone who ever trusted Trump to begin with was already two wheels short of a dog cart.
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I hope you are wrong, because I fear de facto one party rule by ANY political party. Power corrupts, and the Dems in a position of absolute power would become as corrupt and authoritarian as the GOP very quickly.
 
A friend of mine is telling me to expect a big jump up in the popularity polls for DJT thanks to the Supreme Court ruling. He says this will especially happen if Trump now proceeds to ban more Muslim countries and the South and Central American countries immigrants, refuges, and the like are coming from.

He believes that this big positive response to Trump will secure the House and senate in November.

His reasoning is that (according to him) two thirds of Americans are like him in that they don't want Muslims and people from (latrine) countries coming to America. Like him they will be so glad that Trump is saving the nation from these enemies that they will vote him in for a second term.

I wish I could say for sure he was wrong, but I don't think Trump is going to get the bump he expects.
 
Apathia said:
A friend of mine is telling me to expect a big jump up in the popularity polls for DJT thanks to the Supreme Court ruling. He says this will especially happen if Trump now proceeds to ban more Muslim countries and the South and Central American countries immigrants, refuges, and the like are coming from.

He believes that this big positive response to Trump will secure the House and senate in November.

His reasoning is that (according to him) two thirds of Americans are like him in that they don't want Muslims and people from (latrine) countries coming to America. Like him they will be so glad that Trump is saving the nation from these enemies that they will vote him in for a second term.

I wish I could say for sure he was wrong, but I don't think Trump is going to get the bump he expects.
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Does he realize that if he is correct and that Trump is in the same wavelength, then that position does violate the supreme court ruling and also means they got it wrong in thinking it wasn't a Muslim ban?
 
SCOTUS decision is as such "one cannot look for animus outside of the wording of a law." Except for the bakery decision in which they looked past the working of the law for animus. Essentially, the SCOTUS majority has no regard for law, precedence, or consistency.
 
Apathia said:
A friend of mine is telling me to expect a big jump up in the popularity polls for DJT thanks to the Supreme Court ruling. He says this will especially happen if Trump now proceeds to ban more Muslim countries and the South and Central American countries immigrants, refuges, and the like are coming from.

He believes that this big positive response to Trump will secure the House and senate in November.

His reasoning is that (according to him) two thirds of Americans are like him in that they don't want Muslims and people from (latrine) countries coming to America. Like him they will be so glad that Trump is saving the nation from these enemies that they will vote him in for a second term.

I wish I could say for sure he was wrong, but I don't think Trump is going to get the bump he expects.
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WHy would you want a bigot for a friend?

And I think Trump has sort of maxed out the Bigot vote. Very few votes to get there he has not already got.
 
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thaiboxerken said:
Essentially, the SCOTUS majority has no regard for law, precedence, or consistency.
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I would actually say that goes for pretty much the whole Supreme Court. For most cases the 9 each start out with their own position based on their political views and then look for law that they can say supports their political position. For a high percentage of cases anyone who pays even a little bit of attention can generally guess what 7 or 8 members of SCOTUS are going to vote based simply on politics. Having a long track record of pure unblinking ideological certainty is practically a necessity to be considered for the court.

This doesn't happen in most other modern democracies. In Canada the SC is not a political body. No one knows the political views of justices, and because the appointment process is not a political one, and is not fought over by the most extreme interest groups, having a long track record of a strong ideological bent politically would more often than not basically disqualify you (with the odd exception such as Harper appointing Brown).
 
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Does he realize that if he is correct and that Trump is in the same wavelength, then that position does violate the supreme court ruling and also means they got it wrong in thinking it wasn't a Muslim ban?
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I don't think there are going to be any realizations.
 
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Scalia has made disregarding precedence acceptable in Heller. Now it's all about ideology.
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Yep. Wayward tries to make the case that it was always this way, and to a point he might be correct. However, they used to try to hide it. Now, the majority is announcing it with a bullhorn.
 
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WHy would you want a bigot for a friend?
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I've asked myself that a number of times.
We go back many years and many times I've helped him and he has helped me. In some respects he's like family, and would you have a bigot in your family?

But if you're correct about things, the time is going to come where it will be "brother against brother," because I can see him supporting an autocratic government, as long as it put people in their place.

Also, alas, I think he'd have unfriended me already were it not for my white privilege.

Ironically, he didn't vote for Trump, but if Trump can give him the appearance of a whiter world, he'll vote for him next opportunity.
 
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WHy would you want a bigot for a friend?
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THat's what I wonder.

None of my actual friends (as opposed to the people who think of me when they say "some of my best friends are black!", but who I do not consider friends at all) voted for Dolt 45. I have, however, had childhood friends who drifted into the Nation of Islam, hotepery (consider this another strain of misogyny and anti-white racism, but with a healthy dose of "Afrocentrism" in it), and the like. And truth told, I just can't be around them much any more.

And I think Trump has sort of maxed out the Bigot vote. Very few votes to get there he has not already got.
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This is why the GOP is pushing voter suppression instead - closing voting locations, onerous ID requirements, getting rid of sunday early voting (this is when many black churches, in particular, organize to drive people to polling sites who can't make it on their own), and so forth. Expect this to increase in the future, and I would not be shocked at all if Cheeto Benito tried to outright cancel voting in 2020 if not 2018.

Doubt he can, since that's run at the state level, but he's all about greed and bigotry, and the federal GOP is now tied to him inexorably.
 
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