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Why Trump/Hitler Comparisons are Unfair

The Big Dog said:
Learning so much about Hitler! Mostly how he is the new darling of the anti-Trumpers.

Good catch on that aryan part, tho, Hitler was certainly all in for them and they were all doing pretty good, until the entire dying in humanity's largest war.
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You don't see any similarities with Trump and fascist dictators? The scapegoating? The attacks on the press? Attacks on lawful institutions? Dehumanizing rhetoric? Military parades? Inhumane policies? Living in some bizarro version of reality?

What's it going to take? Trump stuffed into a bemedaled military uniform saluting the troops from a balcony?
 
The Big Dog said:
Really? Huh, well, seeing as how I have read this thread, i am going to just have to go ahead and disagree.
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If anti trumpers compare him to Hitler, then it's a pretty safe bet that they like neither.

Which is amazingly the complete opposite of your assertion that he's an anti trumper "darling"
 
Fudbucker said:
You don't see any similarities with Trump and fascist dictators? The scapegoating? The attacks on the press? Attacks on lawful institutions? Dehumanizing rhetoric? Military parades? Inhumane policies? Living in some bizarro version of reality?

What's it going to take? Trump stuffed into a bemedaled military uniform saluting the troops from a balcony?
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I think its just a fantasy world
 
Loss Leader said:
... for a couple hours.
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Hitler never united Germany. He never won a majority vote. Berlin was the most anti Nazi place in all of Germany. Many German Army and Navy officers were to varying degrees anti Hitler (though it would be a mistake to assume that meant they were pro democracy).


However, I have no real problems with comparisons. It's our check and balances and the fact our institutions are more powerful than the people who run them that keeps Trump from ordering the Border Patrol to fire on women and children. I have no doubt that Trump would happily let families die in the Desert Southwest if he could. We aren't Nazi Germany right now because the only actual Nazis are appointees of the Trump Administration. I'd start to worry when that vile Bitch of the Briefing Room can sit down to eat somewhere in DC that's not the Trump Hotel in peace.
 
The Atheist said:
Aside from the matter of a few million dead Poles and Jews, the whole comparison is laughable.

Trump - aka Colonel Bone Spurs - is a coward.

Hitler was demonstrably not. He fought with distinction in WWI, and says himself that he thrived on the war.

Trump inherited a booming economy.

Hitler inherited an economy that was an utter mess. He raised the living standard of all Germans, while Trump is hurting those that need the most help.

Hitler united Germany.

Trump is dividing America - maybe permanently.

Hitler started from humble beginnings and worked his way up to be the baddest dictator ever.

Trump was born with two silver spoons in his mouth and still would have gone bankrupt had daddy not intervened, and only ended up POTUS thanks to Robert Mercer deciding to make him boss.
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You're right, Trump is nothing like Hitler. But you know who is? Obama! Inherited a bad economy, check, rose from humble beginnings, check.
 
The Big Dog said:
This thread is destined to be a towering monument to TDS.
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Really? That's high praise.

I would have thought the towering monument was Trump Tower in NYC not having sprinklers.

You could even say Trump himself was a towering monument, but his height appears to have been wildly overstated, so it won't work.
 
The Atheist said:
Aside from the matter of a few million dead Poles and Jews, the whole comparison is laughable.

Trump - aka Colonel Bone Spurs - is a coward.

Hitler was demonstrably not. He fought with distinction in WWI, and says himself that he thrived on the war.

Trump inherited a booming economy.

Hitler inherited an economy that was an utter mess. He raised the living standard of all Germans, while Trump is hurting those that need the most help.

Hitler united Germany.

Trump is dividing America - maybe permanently.

Hitler started from humble beginnings and worked his way up to be the baddest dictator ever.

Trump was born with two silver spoons in his mouth and still would have gone bankrupt had daddy not intervened, and only ended up POTUS thanks to Robert Mercer deciding to make him boss.

The only thing the two have in common is racism, and there are plenty of racists about.
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Is this the online version of your mate who turns to you and says that 'Hitler may have done many bad things but didn't he...'
 
Trump is probably as bad as Hitler. To be safe, we should assume he is. It's the checks and balances and strength of our institutions that keep him on acting on his being as bad as Hitler. Hitler never gassed anyone. He had a instruments of national power that did. Trump isn't morally better than Hitler, he's just constrained in ways Hitler wasn't.
 
Hitler raised the living standards temporarily by planning to invade and pillage all the other countries in Europe. he destroyed the civilian economy to fund and fuel the military.
He was no economic genius and performed no economic miracles, it was all a sham.
 
The Atheist said:
Hitler inherited an economy that was an utter mess. He raised the living standard of all Germans, while Trump is hurting those that need the most help.
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Actually, Hitler inherited an economy that was well on the mend from the real mess of the early 1920's hyperinflation. The Great Depression from 1929 had a relatively minor impact on the German economy because it was still a small player in global trade.


In 1933 living standards were already improving because the hard work had already been done. The parallel with the repair of the 2008 economy by the Obama administration being inherited by Trump is eerie.


Hitler boosted the economy by deficit spending on a grand scale, with much of it going on unproductive armaments. By 1939 Germany was on the verge of bankruptcy, having already burned through the bank vaults of Czechoslovakia and Austria, and had to go to war with Poland somewhat earlier than intended.
 
Upchurch said:
I think I see the problem. When we compare Trump's acts to those of Hitler's, it's not meant to be a complement to Hitler. We're saying what Trump is doing is bad.
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Not actually nitpicking, because they have different meanings - I'm sure you mean "compliment".

Craig4 said:
Trump is probably as bad as Hitler. To be safe, we should assume he is.
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Well, you know what they say about assumptions...

That's a dangerous & silly comparison. Since becoming POTUS, Trump hasn't shown any signs of wanting to nuke anyone but NK, and Kim was kinda asking for it.

I'll grant the Trump is a cowardly, bullying moron with no class or decorum, but it seems well over the to assume he's going to get that much worse.

Isn't it cool that between Trump & his boss, Vladimir Putin, they make Xi look both moderate and statesmanlike?

Captain_Swoop said:
Hitler raised the living standards temporarily by planning to invade and pillage all the other countries in Europe. he destroyed the civilian economy to fund and fuel the military.
He was no economic genius and performed no economic miracles, it was all a sham.
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If you want to follow that line of thinking, we probably need a new thread, because the mere fact that Hitler was able to plunder so much money out of the German economy for weapons, while simultaneously rasing the living standard of all Germany, does mean he performed economic miracles.

Trump, on the other hand, produces no economic miracles, because his only budget action I've seen so far strips what little money the poor have and drains it straight into the pockets of Trump's pals.

Completely un-Hitler-like.
 
If the assumption turns out to be unfounded, who cares? It's just Trump, no rule of honesty, or decency applies. It would be unpatriotic to have a means of inflicting political damage on Trump and not use it, honest or not.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Hitler raised the living standards temporarily by planning to invade and pillage all the other countries in Europe. he destroyed the civilian economy to fund and fuel the military.
He was no economic genius and performed no economic miracles, it was all a sham.
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Way too simplified in the first sentence, ,but correct in that Hitler's economic recovery was smoke and mirrors.finianced by what amounted to junk bonds. In fact, the Nazi economy was beginning to unravel in early 1939.
See a excellent book on the economic history of the Third Reich called "The Wages of Destruction" for details.
 
The Atheist said:
Not actually nitpicking, because they have different meanings - I'm sure you mean "compliment".



Well, you know what they say about assumptions...

That's a dangerous & silly comparison. Since becoming POTUS, Trump hasn't shown any signs of wanting to nuke anyone but NK, and Kim was kinda asking for it.

I'll grant the Trump is a cowardly, bullying moron with no class or decorum, but it seems well over the to assume he's going to get that much worse.

Isn't it cool that between Trump & his boss, Vladimir Putin, they make Xi look both moderate and statesmanlike?



If you want to follow that line of thinking, we probably need a new thread, because the mere fact that Hitler was able to plunder so much money out of the German economy for weapons, while simultaneously rasing the living standard of all Germany, does mean he performed economic miracles.

Trump, on the other hand, produces no economic miracles, because his only budget action I've seen so far strips what little money the poor have and drains it straight into the pockets of Trump's pals.

Completely un-Hitler-like.
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I'm getting a certain impression here. Do you think the holocaust, as reported in mainstream publications, happened?
 
Craig4 said:
If the assumption turns out to be unfounded, who cares? It's just Trump, no rule of honesty, or decency applies. It would be unpatriotic to have a means of inflicting political damage on Trump and not use it, honest or not.
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Unless it backfires........
 
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