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The Trump Presidency VII

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Captain_Swoop said:
trump tweets

"“I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!"


Didn't the White House say there was no hidden meaning?
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I'd really like to think Melanie might have done that on purpose to troll her cheating spouse.
 
Trebuchet said:
I'd really like to think Melanie might have done that on purpose to troll her cheating spouse.
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It doesn't matter whether she was trolling her husband, trolling the media, or trolling the kids.

She trolled.

This screams loud and clear to the world what kind of emotional maturity level is operating in the White House... and worse, what kind of people are in control of the 'big red button'.
 
Trebuchet said:
Isn't there a loophole on the requirement for a Senate confirmation of Trump appointing a replacement for Sessions? Along the lines that if the replacement has been previously confirmed to an appointment at a similar level, a new confirmation isn't necessary? I think that just happened for Secretary of State.

Attorney General Scott Pruitt. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

After a Google: No, Pompeo was confirmed. Anybody know about the loophole?
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As I understand it, he has two options to avoid the Senate:

1) Recess appointment. But McConnell has cancelled the August recess and there are lots of options to prevent Trump from doing it, as they did last Summer.

2) Federal Vacancies Reform Act by replacing him with another person already confirmed by the Senate. But "firing" is not listed in the act, so it might require getting Sessions to resign.
 
Trebuchet said:
I'd really like to think Melanie might have done that on purpose to troll her cheating spouse.
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She doesn't like him and I think she is afraid of him but she's limited in how she can express that.

I feel like there's something subversive about her but of course I have no proof.
 
Minoosh said:
She doesn't like him and I think she is afraid of him but she's limited in how she can express that.

I feel like there's something subversive about her but of course I have no proof.
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This reminds me of what everyone did with Ivanka before they realized she was in on it.
 
Trebuchet said:
I'd really like to think Melanie might have done that on purpose to troll her cheating spouse.
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I see no reason to give any of these jackals the benefit of the doubt. At best, this is just some jacket she's worn before when it didn't matter, and she's utterly tone-deaf - she's made it obvious that she's simply not FLOTUS material, and "Trump" has never been a synonym for "good taste" or "high class". More likely, it's another example of them showing us (and Dolt 45's more genocidal supporters) who they are, for the thousandth time.
 
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Stacko said:
This reminds me of what everyone did with Ivanka before they realized she was in on it.
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I don't think Trump has the same kind of leverage over Ivanka as he does over Melania, though.

ETA: I don't know that I give her "benefit of the doubt" - she is such a closed book that I don't have a super-strong opinion.
 
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Worm said:
"We'll make it another time when things are going extremely well."

We won't hold our breath.

Interesting that he used as part of his reasoning...

"It doesn't feel right to have a picnic for Congress when we're working on doing something very important."
Seriously, when is the US Government not 'working on something important'? If you use that kind of reasoning, the picnic would never have happened in the first place. That's a perfectly reasonable argument, but not the one he's making.
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...says the Golfer in Chief.
 
Octavo said:
That's right, and old school Boers still hold a grudge against the rooineks for it.
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The first camps to which the word was applied were set up in Cuba in 1895-98 to repress the rebellion against Spanish rule.
 
CapelDodger said:
My concern is that focusing on genocide at the end of the road we miss that the way-station is bad enough, and leaves open the argument that actions aren't fascistic if there's no genocidal intent.
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Is it worth pointing out that what they actually were doing is only a hair's breath away from meeting the UN's official definition of genocide at best (intent being the only potential sticking point)? They literally stole children from their parents and had no plans prepared whatsoever to allow them to reunite under any circumstances. I'm pretty sure that I saw an article (sorry, not finding it again on a quick search) about some of the babies, in particular, being tracked down as shipped to a Christian adoption agency quite far away in fairly short order, too.

Of course, then there's awarding sweet deals to people to stow them away while just drugging them up with meds that were way too strong and outright physically abusing them.

Either way, I simply don't care if it officially qualifies as genocide or not. It's plenty bad on it's own demerits, and that only gets magnified when it's understood that it was an artificial crisis created by the Trump Administration and in direct violation of the rules for how to handle asylum seekers that were established long, long ago.
 
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Aridas said:
Is it worth pointing out that what they actually were doing is only a hair's breath away from meeting the UN's official definition of genocide at best (intent being the only potential sticking point)? They literally stole children from their parents and had no plans prepared whatsoever to allow them to reunite under any circumstances. I'm pretty sure that I saw an article (sorry, not finding it again on a quick search) about some of the babies, in particular, being tracked down as shipped to a Christian adoption agency quite far away in fairly short order, too.
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I'm going to need a citation for that before I believe it.
 
Yay! He got a a Time magazine cover!

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Blue Mountain said:
I'm going to need a citation for that before I believe it.
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Hmm? Just one citation?

There's 4 dealing specifically with the latter part, with some overlap into the former. And there's lots more available on even a quick search.

Literally, in some cases, parents were told that kids were being taken to the bathroom and the kids were just taken away. There's stories that tell of babies being pretty much ripped out of a mother's arms while the baby was breast-feeding, no less. Looks like there's lawsuits already happening because the HHS is unable or unwilling to connect the taken kids with their parents. Either way, more details can be found in the articles about that. With that said, they can potentially be reunited. It's just that there's very remarkable hurdles in play, in a number of ways... I dare say that some of those hurdles are seemingly intentional, for that matter, especially when we've got cases where the people who separated the parents and children outright told the parents that they'll never see the kids again and the part where this was originally proposed as a way to deter further asylum seekers.
 
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Trebuchet said:
I'd really like to think Melanie might have done that on purpose to troll her cheating spouse.
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I think it is a deliberate act to move focus away from the unpopular policy and the President's bungling of it and onto the FLOTUS for this apparent gaffe.

Any attacks can then be dismissed as unfairly attacking the lovely first lady (forgetting the continual and despicable attacks on Michelle Obama from the right wing and their press) which will tend to make people unwilling to continue in their criticism.
 
Trump Tweets

"Elect more Republicans in November and we will pass the finest, fairest and most comprehensive Immigration Bills anywhere in the world. Right now we have the dumbest and the worst. Dems are doing nothing but Obstructing. Remember their motto, RESIST! Ours is PRODUCE!"

"Even if we get 100% Republican votes in the Senate, we need 10 Democrat votes to get a much needed Immigration Bill - & the Dems are Obstructionists who won’t give votes for political reasons & because they don’t care about Crime coming from Border! So we need to elect more R’s!"

" Republicans should stop wasting their time on Immigration until after we elect more Senators and Congressmen/women in November. Dems are just playing games, have no intention of doing anything to solves this decades old problem. We can pass great legislation after the Red Wave!"

"Our great Judge Jeanine Pirro is out with a new book, “Liars, Leakers and Liberals, the Case Against the Anti-Trump Conspiracy,” which is fantastic. Go get it!"
 
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