Trump immigrant family separation policy

There is clearly a gigantic conspiracy to get thousands of children from Central America all the way through Mexico and up to our border, but Fake News America seems not to be interested at all.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
There is clearly a gigantic conspiracy to get thousands of children from Central America all the way through Mexico and up to our border, but Fake News America seems not to be interested at all.
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They were just going to get some of that world-famous Comet Pizza. No conspiracy there at all.
 
Craig4 said:
What is lost in all of this is that these, people trying to get into the US are what almost all of us once were. Pro Trump pundits should remember that not too far back in their family trees there are ancestors who were the huddled masses yearning to be free. Germany, Ireland, Scotland, Italy, Poland, Spain, were all "**** holes". They were basket cases, bordering on being failed states and their people fled and came here.

Immigration is in our national DNA. The genius of America is that you can come here and go as far as your drive, ability, determination can take you. If this country, born of an entrepreneurial spirit can't find a way to harness and nurture the drive, determination, and perseverance of people escaping war, murder and poverty then we've completely lost the plot.

Our basic decency, respect for human rights and sense of fairness are an element of our national power. Consider for a moment that Germans in WWII, at the end of the war, rushed to surrender to Americans. Our enemy, one whose cities we bombed to rubble, whose armies we'd defeated, ran to surrender to us. What other nation can say that?

To abandon what is the best of us; to give in to our base instincts is to give up the very thing that makes us powerful. As large as our armies and navies are, we cannot be a superpower with our military alone. It is our basic decency as a people that draws the world toward us and in turn allows us to project out power. In a misguided attempt to become great again, we may have just lost that which makes us good and it is what makes us good that makes us powerful.
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But they had to cross an ocean, and so could only come in generally through standard ports of entry. If Europe was next door, the same folks would have been hopping the border too, and maybe the focus wouldn't be so much on the Hispanics.
 
For those comparing immigrants to bank robbers, and how if you commit a crime, they take your kids away....

From a federal judge today:
"I can't understand this. If someone at the jail takes your wallet, they give you a receipt. They take your kids, and you get nothing? Not even a slip of paper?"

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1009843938046472192

This losing track of children thing is not going to end well for ICE.
 
It's becoming pretty clear that this whole mess was likely implemented without any serious plan in place for reunion.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Of course, some might say that people shouldn't really need to be told that putting children in concentration camps is wrong. But you're right, it does seem that some people do actually need to be told this.
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Once you expand "concentration camps" to include any kind of juvenile detention, it loses a lot of its rhetorical power. And then you *do* have to start explaining yourself, because now "concentration camps" aren't automatically bad anymore.
 
I Am The Scum said:
They were just going to get some of that world-famous Comet Pizza. No conspiracy there at all.
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So, you actually think that thousands of kids from El Salvador, Honduras, etc. just woke up one morning and decided to walk 2000 miles to the U.S. without any help? Certainly an industrious group, are they not? I wonder if any of them got thirsty along the way? The going rate from cartels/coyotes to get across the Rio Grande is three grand. Per person.
 
Steve said:
As you state, it is fake news, so why would anyone report on it?
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WaPo covered and contextualized it. In short:

Even given the increased number of alleged smugglers this fiscal year and the decreased number of family units, those smugglers, those traffickers, those MS-13 members make up only 0.61 percent of the total number of family units apprehended at the border. In other words, for every 1,000 families that approached the border in the first five months of this fiscal year, only six allegedly involved individuals pretending to be a child’s parents. The percentage of alleged smugglers in fiscal 2017 was smaller, at 0.1 percent.
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BrooklynBaby said:
So, you actually think that thousands of kids from El Salvador, Honduras, etc. just woke up one morning and decided to walk 2000 miles to the U.S. without any help? Certainly an industrious group, are they not? I wonder if any of them got thirsty along the way? The going rate from cartels/coyotes to get across the Rio Grande is three grand. Per person.
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You are very confused. They were with their families. and the US authorities separated them from their families. And now those same US authorities have concede that they have no idea how to re-unite the kids with their families. Cruelty and stupidity of the highest order, and you appear to support it.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Because it isn't newsworthy.
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Of course it is. It's the reason Trump initiated the policy of separating the kids from the people who SAY they are their parents. But, fake news went crazy without even bothering to find out why the policy was implemented, and Trump decided to play politics instead of going with common sense. But, everyone trafficking children up from Central America is happy because it is back to business as usual. In fact, now that they know all they have to do is scream to the media that that they are being separated from their "child", one would presume they would feel emboldened by they way this worked out for them. They are now untouchable.
 
I'm confused. I'm a citizen of the USA, and my president and and his Justice Department are warping a law, to separate children from their parents.

Am I mistaken, or is this one of the worst abuses of executive power I have seen in my lifetime?

ETA: Iran/Contra was the 'big thing" when I was in high school. Separating families is abhorrent to me.
 
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Trump might have done a 180 on his policy, but I doubt the kids problem will be solved before the midterms, and the Democrats can campaign on it.
 
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