The Trump Presidency VII

[logger]

No. But Trump walks and talks like a dictator when he cries 'fake news' and praises dictators. He might as well have been saying 'Lugenpresse'. Trump was the one in the last two weeks who said he would like it if people treated him like Kim's people treated him. Never mind that Kim executed others in his family and anyone with the temerity to question him. You'd snap to if your life depended on it.

It is Trump who is sucking up to Putin and dissing our allies. It is Trump who is constantly talking about ending the Mueller investigation and crying witch hunt.

You simply don’t have a clue to what he is doing.

It is Trump that called Mexicans rapists, drug dealers, animals and an infestation. I have read many of Hitler's speeches and if you replace Jew with Mexican or immigrant, they would sound similar.

We’ll just have to wait till he starts talking about the final solution. You go ahead and remind me when we get there.

 

[gregthehammer]

What an odd statement. If that showed up as a trump tweet nobody would doubt it was him. I am beginning to wonder........nah, he would never select *logger* as a handle.

Well, now that you mention it, here in Wisconsin, back in the mid to late 1800's we had captains of the timber industry know as *Lumber Barons*. Lumber, timber, logging, all go hand in hand. And we know that one of Trump's aliases is John *Baron*. Ergo...?

 

[Steve]

Not even close to reality.

But you said yourself, you are so easy to take advantage of. That is definitely a sign of weakness and weakness is to be pitied. A strong country would never allow that to happen. No one takes advantage of Russia or NK and those countries have leaders that trump would like to emulate.

 

[acbytesla]

Lol, next level.

It’s used to be a wonderful patriotic act to be proud of your flag. It still is to real Americans. He isn’t demonizing foreigners, he thinks other countries have been taking advantage of us and they clearly have.

Total bull crap. wrapping yourself in the flag is not patriotic. Its a fetish. 'Real Americans'? Who the **** are those? Do you really think carrying a flag and being totally ignorant of American principles is patriotic?

I've read biographies of Thomas Jefferson, Madison, Paine, Washington, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Eisenhower, LBJ, Carter, Nixon, Clinton and Bush as well as the Federalist Papers, Common Sense and countless number of books on the foundation of this country. Now why did you think I did all that? Do you really believe that waving a piece of cloth means you love this country more than me?

Thinking that wrapping yourself in the American flag is patriotic is the epitome of idiocy. It's the principles that matter not the stupid cloth. The idea that foreigners are taking advantage is just the kind of xenophobic nonsense that dictators peddle to the ignorant sheep.

 

[Aridas]

I’m sure your side will use this as much as it can. Because this is what the demorats are best at. Dishonest tactics like these to confuse, get people fired up. They have no agenda anyone wants to be part of just fear and chaos is what the demorat party is all about. I can’t wait till you start using these kids to further the left agenda.

This country is on to your sides tactics.

The Projection is strong with this one.

You’re missing lead from behind I’m sure. Lol

I'm missing read my lips, no new taxes, too. Both of them were overwhelmingly better than the current guy in charge when it comes to concern for national security.

It doesn't need a new law because it wasn't needed before.

Is it worth saying that the Democrats in the Senate did propose a law that was specifically to end the family separation tactics of the Trump administration? Support from the Democrats is at 100%. From the Republicans? 0% so far, by the look of it.

 

[Steve]

Whatever helps you stay in your reality.

You do realize you rail against Trump and republicans as much as I rail against liberals? Lol just can’t make this stuff up!

And another thing, again, conservatism doesn’t want anything to with mixing government, industry or business. That is the left, so sad!

We really should split this off into another thread.

Trump imposing tariffs is exactly what he is charged with as president. Hillary and Obama taking over healthcare would be a better analogy. He’s actually in the middle politically but to you he’s a fascist.

One of these things is not like the other. (With apologies to Sesame Street)

 

[Foolmewunz]

Lol, next level.

It’s used to be a wonderful patriotic act to be proud of your flag. It still is to real Americans. He isn’t demonizing foreigners, he thinks other countries have been taking advantage of us and they clearly have.

No, it used to be a patriotic act to respect "the Republic for which it stands", not to wrap your arms around it in a cynical play to emotionalism. I thought you were all about logic, yet here you are supporting this exploitation of emotion.

Why is that? Because dear leader does it, it must be okay? I mean Jefferson the Traitor Elf just told us... god put our leaders here to be obeyed, amiright?

And you do realize (or you might if you could actually be bothered to look it up) that "wrapping yourself in the flag" is an age old complaint about lying weasels who promote uber nationalism.

 

[acbytesla]

You simply don’t have a clue to what he is doing.

Neither does he.

 

[Steve]

Neither does he.

Or anyone for that matter.

 

[quadraginta]

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You also don’t seem to understand many of these children are accompanied by smugglers or adults posing as their parents.

How many?

Please provide numbers and documentation in support.

You simply don’t have a clue and aren’t interested in the facts.

I'm very interested in the facts.

Please demonstrate that the above statement is actually a fact.

 

[quadraginta]

But the people who voted for him, and supported him up until now won't have been getting their news from anywhere other than Fox. So they'll still be doing the same now, and Fox says that it's a summer camp and that the kids are actors.

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I wonder if the people on Fox News will explain why the GOP wants to spend so much money and effort sending child actors to summer camp.

 

[quadraginta]

Well, he lost the popular vote last time, and while he got the electoral college his margin was razor thin. So not much room for loss there.

Voter suppression may make a difference, but it was already in effect in a lot of places last election so there's not much more of an advantage he can get there. (And his committee to examine voter fraud went nowhere.)

Gerrymandering makes a difference in congress, but its less of an issue when voting for president because, well, electoral votes are typically based on the states rather than districts.

The Electoral College is gerrymandering.

Sure, it is Constitutionally sanctioned, national scale gerrymandering, but the original intent and effect are the same.

 

[acbytesla]

Lol
Total BS. people die for this flag, that you’re on the left and couldn’t care less about it is simply typical.

People don't die for the flag. And if you did die for the flag you're a dumbass moron and should win a Darwin award for your stupidity.

What is the flag without the principles? Pretty damn worthless if you ask me.

 

[logger]

Is it worth saying that the Democrats in the Senate did propose a law that was specifically to end the family separation tactics of the Trump administration? Support from the Democrats is at 100%. From the Republicans? 0% so far, by the look of it.

Because there is a case being made it would cause an explosion in human trafficking. Not that it matters to the Dems when they think they have an issue.

 

[logger]

People don't die for the flag. And if you did die for the flag you're a dumbass moron and should win a Darwin award for your stupidity.

What is the flag without the principles? Pretty damn worthless if you ask me.

Thanks for proving my point again. This kind of post is why your side can’t win elections.

 

[BadBoy]

No. But Trump walks and talks like a dictator when he cries 'fake news' and praises dictators.

Also this Pardoning of some very iffy individuals.

 

[quadraginta]

Look that simply can't happen unless he loses the republican base. ANd I see no evidence that they will care no matter what crimes he is found to have committed.

Nixon lost a lot of his base with Bloody Sunday, but I am not sure minor hiccups like that would bother the Trump base.

Nixon was unfortunate enough to be saddled with a GOP which still had a few members with shreds of personal integrity and a real concern for the welfare of the country.

The GOP hasn't been saddled with that sort of encumbrance for quite a few years now.

 

[logger]

That's a chicken **** way of admitting you can't support your claim.

Why should I devote my time to searching for something which may not even be there when you can simply cite your evidence (if you have any)?

It was your claim. It isn't up to me to defend it for you.




Why? If you could support your claim with evidence you would, and I would be enlightened.

Go ahead. Enlighten us. Produce some facts with documentation.

Lol

I’m not going to waste my time.

 

[quadraginta]

Well a couple of things we could hope for...

- Rupert Murdoch could die, and control over Fox network might go to people who are more responsible in their leanings (Supposedly at least one of Murdoch's sons has expressed disappointment in some of Fox's coverage. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ames-embarrassed-coverage-trump-a8138556.html)

Now, there would still be other extremist sources (like brietbart or infowars), but Fox is probably the most influential of the pro-Trump/pro-Republican media


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If Fox were to back off from their rabidly pro-Republican lie machine they would no longer be the most influential.

That's the hook which keeps their audience. They couldn't compete if they just delivered straight, lie-free, undistorted news.

 

[logger]

Is it worth saying that the Democrats in the Senate did propose a law that was specifically to end the family separation tactics of the Trump administration? Support from the Democrats is at 100%. From the Republicans? 0% so far, by the look of it.

Its Britebart too.

http://www.breitbart.com/california...ll-would-prevent-almost-every-federal-arrest/