Cont: Breaking: Mueller Grand Jury charges filed, arrests as soon as Monday pt 2

[Skeptic Ginger]

This is just chicken little scaremongering. Whether trump is indicted, or serves a second term, either way the pendulum will swing and the Democrats win again, sooner or later.

The biggest danger currently, is over reaction and setting bad precedents.

???

 

[The Big Dog]

Another bombshell:

From the IG report:

"Under these circumstances, we did NOT have confidence that Strzok’s decision to prioritize the Russia investigation OVER following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead discovered on the Weiner laptop was free from bias."

 

[BobTheCoward]

The OIG report released today is a nightmare for Mueller:

FBI Attorney 1 responded, “Is it
making you rethink your commitment
to the Trump administration?”
FBI Attorney 2replied, “Hell no.” and then added, “Viva le resistance.”

Both of these attorneys were assigned to Mueller's team....

Now that sounds like conversations I had in the Navy.

 

[Giz]

???

I take the long view when considering the health of a constitutional democracy. Better a bad president than a bad precedent.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I take the long view when considering the health of a constitutional democracy. Better a bad president than a bad precedent.

You claimed there was a danger of setting bad precedents.

You can't get any worse precedent setting than we have with Trump.

 

[Giz]

You claimed there was a danger of setting bad precedents.

You can't get any worse precedent setting than we have with Trump.

There’s all kinds of terrible precedents.

Political differences labeled psychiatric disorders.
Removal of democratically elected officials by “any means”
Nuclear option in the senate

Basically, you are exceeding Putin’s wildest hopes.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

There’s all kinds of terrible precedents.

Political differences labeled psychiatric disorders.
Removal of democratically elected officials by “any means”
Nuclear option in the senate

Basically, you are exceeding Putin’s wildest hopes.

Overwhelming evidence of a psychiatric disorder dismissed as partisan politics.

Trying to dismiss legitimate criminal investigations by the FBI and the special prosecutor as partisan because one FBI agent didn't like Trump.

Attacking anyone that criticizes Trump be it a Federal Judge or a state AG investigating a charity fraud as partisan.

Trying to use the State Department to go after one's political enemies.


Nuclear option in the Senate???? Puhleese.

Exceeding Putin's wildest hopes, you got that part right, Trump is indeed the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[The Big Dog]

One FBI agent? I like that the guy who was leading the investigation is referred to as "one agent" plus his gal pal, plus all the other ones quoted in the report today, five of which were referred to the FBI.

Just one guy fellas, don't worry about it.

"we were particularly concerned about text messages sent
by Strzok and Page that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions they made
were impacted by bias or improper considerations.
Most of the text messages raising such questions
pertained to the Russia investigation, and the
implication in some of these text messages, particularly
Strzok’s August 8 text message (“we’ll stop” candidate
Trump from being elected), was that Strzok might be
willing to take official action to impact a presidential
candidate’s electoral prospects. Under these
circumstances, we did not have confidence that Strzok’s
decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over
following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead
discovered on the Weiner laptop was free from bias.

"we'll stop" Trump. Which was sent a week after Crossfire Hurricane started by the top guy on the investigation. Sounds legit

 

[quadraginta]

You're talking nonsense. You pretend that people cant hold political beliefs and still do their jobs fairly. Get a grip.

In a Trump administration all loyalty by each and every government employee must be to Supreme Leader Trump first, foremost, and above all else.

Loyalty to the U.S.A., it's laws, the precepts of democracy, or the requirements and responsibilities of that employee's job must come after that.

Anything less is obviously part of a conspiracy to depose the Supreme Leader Trump.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

In a Trump administration all loyalty by each and every government employee must be to Supreme Leader Trump first, foremost, and above all else.

Loyalty to the U.S.A., it's laws, the precepts of democracy, or the requirements and responsibilities of that employee's job must come after that.

Anything less is obviously part of a conspiracy to depose the Supreme Leader Trump.

Surely it has to do with his projection. Given he's a dishonest partisan hack that would use US institutions to damage his enemies, of course he believes that's how everyone acts.

 

[johnny karate]

One FBI agent? I like that the guy who was leading the investigation is referred to as "one agent" plus his gal pal, plus all the other ones quoted in the report today, five of which were referred to the FBI.

Just one guy fellas, don't worry about it.

"we were particularly concerned about text messages sent
by Strzok and Page that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions they made
were impacted by bias or improper considerations.
Most of the text messages raising such questions
pertained to the Russia investigation, and the
implication in some of these text messages, particularly
Strzok’s August 8 text message (“we’ll stop” candidate
Trump from being elected), was that Strzok might be
willing to take official action to impact a presidential
candidate’s electoral prospects. Under these
circumstances, we did not have confidence that Strzok’s
decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over
following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead
discovered on the Weiner laptop was free from bias.

"we'll stop" Trump. Which was sent a week after Crossfire Hurricane started by the top guy on the investigation. Sounds legit

"We found no evidence that the conclusions by Department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations; rather, we determined that they were based on the prosecutors' assessment of the facts, the law, and past Department practice”

 

[acbytesla]

One FBI agent? I like that the guy who was leading the investigation is referred to as "one agent" plus his gal pal, plus all the other ones quoted in the report today, five of which were referred to the FBI.

Just one guy fellas, don't worry about it.

"we were particularly concerned about text messages sent
by Strzok and Page that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions they made
were impacted by bias or improper considerations.
Most of the text messages raising such questions
pertained to the Russia investigation, and the
implication in some of these text messages, particularly
Strzok’s August 8 text message (“we’ll stop” candidate
Trump from being elected), was that Strzok might be
willing to take official action to impact a presidential
candidate’s electoral prospects. Under these
circumstances, we did not have confidence that Strzok’s
decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over
following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead
discovered on the Weiner laptop was free from bias.

"we'll stop" Trump. Which was sent a week after Crossfire Hurricane started by the top guy on the investigation. Sounds legit

Oh bull crap. You have ABSOLUTELY no information that they did anything more than talk. They opposed the election of Donald Trump. Lots of people did.

 

[The Big Dog]

"We found no evidence that the conclusions by Department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations; rather, we determined that they were based on the prosecutors' assessment of the facts, the law, and past Department practice”

Anyone notice that I talk about the FBI and the reply is about Department prosecutors?

Yeah, people quoting that line to you are lying to you. DOJ prosecutors are not the FBI

 

[acbytesla]

Anyone notice that I talk about the FBI and the reply is about Department prosecutors?

Yeah, people quoting that line to you are lying to you. DOJ prosecutors are not the FBI

Anyone notice the nonsense in that post?

 

[Aridas]

Are you really surprised that two adult Americans in August of 2016 thought it unlikely that Trump would be president?

Or that they really didn't want it? The suggestion that they would be willing to actually take some action to try to prevent Trump from becoming President is, in fact, not a particularly telling one. Nor does it even so much as imply that any unlawful, unprofessional, or unethical behavior actually occurred.

As the report said, though, it is indeed distinctly possible that the checking of e-mails was not prioritized over concerns about Russian links to the Trump campaign in part because of bias, though, regardless of whether it would have been done the same way even without bias in play. That's really not the smoking gun that those like The Big Dog seem to want it to be, though. "Bias" seems to have become the right's "racism." Certainly an issue, but one that's frequently assumed or blown comically out of proportion whenever they feel like it, regardless of the truth of the matter.

 

[a_unique_person]

This is just chicken little scaremongering. Whether trump is indicted, or serves a second term, either way the pendulum will swing and the Democrats win again, sooner or later.

The biggest danger currently, is over reaction and setting bad precedents.

Setting dangerous precedents? You like Trump, Congress and the Senate have been doing?

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

It's being reported that Cohen feels that Trump and his allies are turning on him

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

FWIW, WRT the Strzok prioritising Russia over Clinton thing: https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1007328186445828101

The OIG report suggests that Strzok may have prioritized the Russia probe over the Clinton email probe because he didn't like Trump.
Strzok's lawyer has some thoughts.

 

[uke2se]

This is just chicken little scaremongering. Whether trump is indicted, or serves a second term, either way the pendulum will swing and the Democrats win again, sooner or later.

The biggest danger currently, is over reaction and setting bad precedents.

I think this is the dangerous "it can't happen here" mentality showing again. It can and is happening there. The party in power is openly cementing its power through various means. The US is rightfully sliding downwards on the democracy index. The ostrich mentality isn't going to work anymore.

 

[Aridas]

FWIW, WRT the Strzok prioritising Russia over Clinton thing: https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1007328186445828101

It may be worth repeating that the report says that they cannot discount that bias may have been in play in the first place. It did not say that the decisions actually made were wrong there.