The Trump Presidency VII

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phiwum said:
He's a shallow bastard, pardoning celebrities and granting clemency to a celebrity-endorsed convict[1]. He doesn't bother with the usual review process.

You may disagree, but yeah, I think that the power of a presidential pardon appeals to him. It's the closest to the power of a king.

[1] Not saying she didn't deserve clemency, but she wouldn't have gotten it without the intervention of a reality TV star.
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The review process, lol. It just makes sense and it’s again your narrow view that you think Kardashian just waltzed in there with her big beautiful ass and sweet talked him into it.

There are other pardons he’s recently done that we’re fully justified, like pardoning the political prisoner Dinesh D’Souza.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
She is married to Kanye West. That should tell you something.
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ya, that means nothing to me. I only know about the Kardashians from the ladies in my family.

edit: oh hang on - is he the dude... ok I'm with you now. I had no idea they were a thing (him and the woman with the large buttocks)
oh well, I guess I don't read the right papers.
 
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logger said:
The review process, lol. It just makes sense and it’s again your narrow view that you think Kardashian just waltzed in there with her big beautiful ass and sweet talked him into it.

There are other pardons he’s recently done that we’re fully justified, like pardoning the political prisoner Dinesh D’Souza.
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Dinesh D’Souza :boggled: (That guy is a scumbag IMO).

You did see what his crime was didn't you? This was more about getting a Pardon because, well hell, he's one of our buddies.
 
logger said:
The review process, lol. It just makes sense and it’s again your narrow view that you think Kardashian just waltzed in there with her big beautiful ass and sweet talked him into it.

There are other pardons he’s recently done that we’re fully justified, like pardoning the political prisoner Dinesh D’Souza.
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D'Souza broke campaign finance law by getting his wife AND his girlfriend to give his money under their names to his friend. Now if that is the kind of guy you regard as being a political prisoner (and therefore I assume a hero of some sort) it does begin to explain a few of the questions I have had about your political posturing here. You certainly seem to lack a degree of skepticism when looking at the right wing of American politics.
 
Parsman said:
D'Souza broke campaign finance law by getting his wife AND his girlfriend to give his money under their names to his friend. Now if that is the kind of guy you regard as being a political prisoner (and therefore I assume a hero of some sort) it does begin to explain a few of the questions I have had about your political posturing here. You certainly seem to lack a degree of skepticism when looking at the right wing of American politics.
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Lol

Yes libs are howling about this, but the sentence was clearly too harsh, same with the other few pardons he’s given. But your towing the party line is typical of your political posture.
 
logger said:
The review process, lol. It just makes sense and it’s again your narrow view that you think Kardashian just waltzed in there with her big beautiful ass and sweet talked him into it.

There are other pardons he’s recently done that we’re fully justified, like pardoning the political prisoner Dinesh D’Souza.
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Political prisoner? Surely ye jest?

Sentence: Five years' probation, conditioned upon eight months' community confinement and the performance of one full day per week of community service; $30,000 fine (September 23, 2014)

Political prisoner my ass.
 
logger said:
Of course that wouldn’t be applied to any other president. :rolleyes:
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Well, no, Mr. Rolleyes. Let's see if you can get how this works.

First of all, this here is a thread about President Donald Trump. See the title of the thread.

Second, no obviously it cannot be applied to any other president as the comment was that he's exercising his pardon rights much more in the early part of his presidency than any previous president. So the statement can only be about Trump, Donald John, 45th President of the United States.

Now astute readers may wish to ask the obvious question (the one you're conveniently ignoring), which is "Why?" Why does Donnie Johnny so enjoy the pardon process that he's assigned his aides to find him lots more?

Simple. He's unfettered and unchallenged other than by advisors who he ignores at a whim, anyway. There are no checks and balances to a presidential pardon - it's irrevocable. So he's found something that suits his imperial tastes, that he can issue fiats on and then say to his guards, "Now remove these knaves from my presence!" It's kinda like the two scoops of ice cream. "Because I can, and there's nothing you can do about it!"
 
Foolmewunz said:
Well, no, Mr. Rolleyes. Let's see if you can get how this works.

First of all, this here is a thread about President Donald Trump. See the title of the thread.

Second, no obviously it cannot be applied to any other president as the comment was that he's exercising his pardon rights much more in the early part of his presidency than any previous president. So the statement can only be about Trump, Donald John, 45th President of the United States.

Now astute readers may wish to ask the obvious question (the one you're conveniently ignoring), which is "Why?" Why does Donnie Johnny so enjoy the pardon process that he's assigned his aides to find him lots more?

Simple. He's unfettered and unchallenged other than by advisors who he ignores at a whim, anyway. There are no checks and balances to a presidential pardon - it's irrevocable. So he's found something that suits his imperial tastes, that he can issue fiats on and then say to his guards, "Now remove these knaves from my presence!" It's kinda like the two scoops of ice cream. "Because I can, and there's nothing you can do about it!"
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Well he’s not the kind of person who needs people to hold his hand. He seems to be able to do things other presidents can’t. See if you can understand that?
 
phiwum said:
You may disagree, but yeah, I think that the power of a presidential pardon appeals to him. It's the closest to the power of a king.
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Captain_Swoop said:
Makes him feel Imperial.
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logger said:
Well he’s not the kind of person who needs people to hold his hand. He seems to be able to do things other presidents can’t. See if you can understand that?
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Let's see? Of Trump's most notable traits, which ones were other holders of that office incapable of doing, exactly? Perhaps you meant "other presidents won't". See, there's a big difference. We can all hop on our left foot while farting, but some of us choose not to do so. Anyone is capable, if they put their minds to it, of lying twenty or thirty times a day; other presidents seem to have chosen the high road.

Why don't you, since its your claim and this would be the proper thread for it, list for us the things he is able to do that other presidents can't or couldn't. This could be very entertaining while we wait for him to try catching up to Bush I in the "throwing up on foreign dignitaries" category.
 
logger said:
Well he’s not the kind of person who needs people to hold his hand. He seems to be able to do things other presidents can’t. See if you can understand that?
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Are you referring to the man who has been laughed out of a meeting for responsible adults, and will be spending a few extra days gorging on junk food and tweeting from a Singapore hotel with nothing to do, in spite of being the bestest, most leadersome, big boy dealmaker ever?

Sadly, his remaining supporters confuse such fanciful and ever-shifting royal whim with deep thinking, and blind ignorance of history with a refreshing change of perspective.
 
NoahFence said:
LOL
The coward in chief is going to take his ball and go home early from the G7?
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The Great Zaganza said:
He didn't get invited to the After-Summit Party.
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A friend in Hong Kong sent around a caption contest of Trump leaving the conference (not really, but pretended it was). The winner was a buddy in Dallas.... Talk bubble coming from Trump: "Well, I never! One scoop of ice cream the same as the frenchie!"
 
logger said:
Well he’s not the kind of person who needs people to hold his hand.
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I think you're confusing "allows" with "needs". I think it's quite clear that he needs someone to guide him and explain things to him. I mean, even going back to the first day of his presidency when he had to make a big deal out of his inauguration crowd being bigger than Obama's - even though it clearly wasn't - and was only eventually talked out of keeping bringing it up by Kellyanne Conway repeatedly telling him "you're very big. That is very small" like a 5-year-old.

He seems to be able to do things other presidents can’t.
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I think you're confusing "had the sense not to" with "can't".
 
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