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Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VI: Lyndon Johnson's Revenge

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Except it was fired,
That day? How do you know?

and we can establish exactly when it was fired - to the minute - in the case of this shooting and this rifle.

It was fired at 12:30 PM Dallas time on 11/22/63.
That is circular reasoning, Hank.

We know that because of the six pieces of ballistic evidence that were determined to have been fired from that rifle and because of where those six pieces were found.
IF so, how did Day and Fritz & co know this an hour after the shooting, Hank?

Clairvoyance?
 
Nonsense answer, yes.

Exatly, ”lol”.

”Now”? Why not there and then? Not enough brothers/sisters in Faith on that forum, Hank?

I’m responding to ALL of you, Hank. In due course.

Yes, in the Mighty Church, everything is ”fun”. And protected.

I’m here to tell you the truth, not the fun.

Meaningless responses are meaningless. No evidence to support your claims still.

"In due course" is seen for what it is.

Hank
 
Straw man arguing. Nobody has made that argument that the autopsy doctors lied. Except you, when trying to reconcile their statements with your arguments.

Hank

John McAdams told me he thinks that's why the pathologists are so unanimous in their reporting.
 
It is pretty much ad hoc, I admit.

Then I see no evidence that I should trust your assurance that you'll get to my questions in due course. There appears to be no due course -- only what you decide from day to day is worthy of your attention. I don't see that as fundamentally different from running away from questions you can't answer.
 
That day? How do you know?
No, not that day. We know it now.



That is circular reasoning, Hank.
How so?
#97 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​


IF so, how did Day and Fritz & co know this an hour after the shooting, Hank? Clairvoyance?
Nobody said they knew it then. You're asking why Day didn't perform a test that you cannot cite any evidence to establish even exists. First, prove the test exists and is used in crime detection. Cite for it with legitimate quotes and references to criminology texts. Establish this test was used in the 1960s.

Ball in your court.

Once you do that, then come back and start asking why Day didn't perform this test you yanked out of your hind parts.

Hank
 
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John McAdams told me he thinks that's why the pathologists are so unanimous in their reporting.

So what? Even assuming that's true (you provide no evidence to support your assertion), and aside from the fact that John McAdams isn't here, why are you pretending anyone here advanced that argument so you need to rebut it here?

Hank
 
So what? Even assuming that's true (you provide no evidence to support your assertion), and aside from the fact that John McAdams isn't here, why are you pretending anyone here advanced that argument so you need to rebut it here?

Hank

I'm getting the feeling like that's what you think happened but don't want to admit it because you want to stay a 'minimalist" nutter.
 
I'm getting the feeling like that's what you think happened but don't want to admit it because you want to stay a 'minimalist" nutter.

Your 'feelings' don't matter. What you can prove with *evidence* is the coin of the realm here.

Your point is still a straw man argument, in that you're seen here rebutting a point nobody here made. And you admitted nobody here made that argument, claiming only that 'John McAdams' made that argument to you, at some time undefined, at some place undefined.

Hank
 
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Here is the regulations 1911 - 1969 (Sandy Larsen on Ed.Forum)

Destroyed that argument right here, pointing out the language you and Sandy are ignoring:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12319066&postcount=4917

Summary for those just tuning in: Oswald purchased the rifle used to assassinate JFK, and there's a long trail of evidence to support that. CTs (and Manifesto here) like to pick at the evidence trying to overturn it. In the case of the money order used to pay for the purchase (which bears Oswald's handwriting according to handwriting experts), the current CT approach is to take some postal regulations out of context, ignore the clear meaning of those regulations, and pretend the money order is invalid because it's missing a stamp from the bank that accepted the money order in a batch from Klein's. But the clear language of the regulation says that the vendor stamp is sufficient. So CTs have no argument here, but of course, since they have to establish all the evidence against Oswald is fraudulent to get him off the hook, they can't give this argument up, so every so often it gets recycled as if it actually disproves Oswald ordered, purchased, paid for, and had shipped to his PO Box the rifle that was used to kill Kennedy.

Hank
 
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[...] But the clear language of the regulation says that the vendor stamp is sufficient. [...]

Yes, one reason, no doubt, that the advisory "should" was used instead of the mandatory "shall" or "must."

And, of course, even if CTs could establish some deviation from required endorsing practice--and they can't--this would prove nothing more than a deviation from standard practice, not a forgery. They would still have an undischarged burden--the argumentative equivalent of an unpaid money order.
 
Okay, I think so far in this thread I have proven beyond all doubt that the open-cranium photographs could not show a beveled entry hole 4-5 inches above the EOP without the back of the skull being repaired or placed back. It is impossible to fit a brain through a 5-inch skull cavity, and remember the skull photographs show a lot of the left side of the skull INTACT.

You've only proven that you don't know what you're talking about.

You haven't seen all of the photos so you have no idea what they show or don't show, and therefore it is impossible for you to make a definitive statement.

They didn't remove the brain through a 5 inch hole. They sawed the skull cap off per standard procedure, and testified repeatedly by Humes and Fink.

I posted the link to the Humes testimony for a seventh time, and you didn't read it for the seventh time meaning that you're not just a thief, but you're also lazy. It's on the Mary Farrell site too, which is CT-friendly.

Get with the program.

Also those photos you posted SHOW THE SKULL HAD BEEN SAWED OPEN. You posy visual evidence that proved you're wrong.
 
”Ah, I found a rifle hid behind some stuff here. Could it be the murder weapon? Check if it has been newly fired. No, not necessary, I know that the technical ballistic guys will prove that this is the murder weapon in a couple of months. I am clairvoyant, you see.


And by handling the weapon before the CSI detective arrives contaminates the rifle, and can cause the loss of latent prints.

Plus, it only shows that the rifle has been fired, not when it was fired.

You fail.;)
 
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