Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VI: Lyndon Johnson's Revenge

[manifesto]

My very first question to you has gone unanswered, and you've responded several other people's more recent posts in the interim. In a few cases you asked me for specifics, which were promptly provided only to be met with ongoing silence from you.

I choose to interpret your delay in responding to my questions as your running away from the debate, as that seems to be the explanation most consistent with your manifested behavior. If you think you can prove that indefinite delay doesn't constitute running away, please be my guest.

I answer in the order I see fit. Your interpretation of this is of no importance.

What so ever.

 

[JayUtah]

Lt. Day from DPD’s crime lab examined the rifle for fingerprints etc, on the scene at the TSBD 6th floor.

It's expected that he would do that because taking fingerprints is a normal and expected part of processing artifacts at a crime scene.

He did not check it to see if it had NOT been fired that day. An index finger to the pipe and chamber was too sophisticated to perform?

Again you presume that this is how such a test would be performed and that such a test is common and proper in criminology. You have not substantiated the expectation upon which your claim of "anomalous" behavior is based.

 

[HSienzant]

He said it with a frustrated sigh...

He did?

#87 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

not as you are trying to imply, triumphantly.

#88 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

Oswald was an undercover agent,

#89 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

probably working for the CIA.

#90 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

After leaving TSBD he went to the Texas Theater

Not directly. He went to his rooming house, changed his clothes and got his revolver. Right?

to a rendezvous with a cut out for his handler

#91 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

for information/instructions on how to act following the assassination of JFK.

Mind reader now?

#92 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

Movie theathers was/is classic anonymous meetingplaces for spooks

Also a good place to watch a movie, which is what most of the patrons go there to do. Right? Also a good place to hide out after shooting a cop. How'd you narrow it down to your claim?

#93 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

and Oswald was seen sitting down next to multiple single patrons, rise and sit down next to another one, and so on, as if looking for someone he did not know or recognized = cut out.

#94 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

He also had a couple of very odd items on him (do not remember exactly what at the moment), also a classic way to identify one another.

#95 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

The list of the ca 20 patrons/witnesses present at the theather was conveniently ”lost” by the DPD shortly after the arrest, never to be seen again. The few testimonies on record slipped through in spite of this.

#96 - Cite the evidence. Explain it. Argue for its veracity.​

You need to shape up

You keep saying you're here to provide the evidence. But all you ever provide is more CT nonsense allegations you've gleaned from CT websites. And when pressed for the evidence to support those allegations (you're up to 96 now) you always defer, saying 'it's coming'. You sound like a religious leader - of a church - promising his congregation 'any day now salvation will be upon us'. And just like those religious leaders, you never give a specific date when we will see the promise land.

Hank

 

[RoboTimbo]

Oswald's rendezvous at the theater (whether or not he was hiding from the Police or if he had a handgun) is evidenced not only by the witness statements about Oswald traveling between the theater seats next to people as if looking for a signal from some expected contact, but by the "half/torn dollar bill" evidence.

But why did he attempt to murder more officers there after murdering Officer Tippit with the same revolver?

Does it still suck to be a CTist who can't answer?

 

[JayUtah]

I answer in the order I see fit.

And I'm calling into question your reasons for determining fitness. State them and defend them. Since you're ignoring me on the basis of these alleged reasons, I have a right to know what they are.

Your interpretation of this is of no importance.

What so ever.

Then I don't see why your interpretation of Hank's absence from the Education Forum is of any important whatsoever. He'll participate there when and if he sees fit and you have no business questioning his reasons. That is, unless you have a double standard.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Cite ONE thing I have made up, Hans.

Here's another one you have made up.

Your interpretation of this is of no importance.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I answer in the order I see fit.

The order being, so far, undefined.

Dave

 

[OKBob]

2 —used in auxiliary function to express obligation, propriety, or expediency​

Questions?

Yes, the question I've now asked you four times. Now listen carefully this time. Your citation of a dictionary doesn't help you here. I'm telling you as a lawyer and a law professor that "should" is not a word that is used in statutory or regulatory legal language to signify mandatory, law-compelled conduct. If these regulations were in the nature of an operative legal command, they would have used "shall" or "must." There is a big difference between "Employees should wash their hands after using the toilet" (expressing obligation, propriety, or expedience), and "Employees shall (or must) wash their hands after using the toilet." The latter expresses a mandatory rule, with the implication of penalty for failure to comply. The former expresses an aspiration, a norm, an admonition, a strong recommendation.

 

[traxy]

Oswald's rendezvous at the theater (whether or not he was hiding from the Police or if he had a handgun) is evidenced not only by the witness statements about Oswald traveling between the theater seats next to people as if looking for a signal from some expected contact, but by the "half/torn dollar bill" evidence.

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https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pages/WH_Vol22_0105a.jpg

The torn bill isn't evidence of anything.

I've just read through the statements of 5 witnesses in the Texas Theater, none of them describe Oswald sitting next to random patrons and moving around.

 

[HSienzant]

No, it is only people like you who runs away when/if losing a debate, Hank. Like in the Ed.Forum thread on the Hidell PMO.

Asked and answered.

If you knew that you had evidence countering Larsens cited regulations, you would have presented it, triumphantly sadistically.

Sadistically? lol!

You have it backwards once more. You're attempting to shift the burden of proof still. You're here, I'm here. If you think there's any proof in anything Larsen wrote, cite it here. Now. Let's discuss.

Instead, you became silent and disapeared like a puff of bad air, never to be seen again.

Wow. Then I guess this post is a mirage, and you're not responding to me at all?

Back to the bosom....

Now that sounds like fun.

Hank

 

[HSienzant]

For anybody who wants to think the autopsy pathologists decided to lie ... .

Straw man arguing. Nobody has made that argument that the autopsy doctors lied. Except you, when trying to reconcile their statements with your arguments.

Hank

 

[manifesto]

Oswald's rendezvous at the theater (whether or not he was hiding from the Police or if he had a handgun) is evidenced not only by the witness statements about Oswald traveling between the theater seats next to people as if looking for a signal from some expected contact, but by the "half/torn dollar bill" evidence.

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/22/2288-001.gif

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pages/WH_Vol22_0105a.jpg

Thank you, MicahJava. My time is limited.

 

[JayUtah]

My time is limited.

As is everyone's. Hence it behooves you to respect the time other people spend writing pertinent posts expecting them to receive your attention. To help you better spend your limited time, I recommend you spend less time writing insults and more time writing substantive replies and supplying evidence that's been asked for.

 

[HSienzant]

FRB Circular 4928, August 18, 1960

All cash items [including Postal Money Orders] sent to us, or to another Federal Reserve Bank direct for our account, should be endorsed without restriction to the order of the Federal Reserve Bank to which sent, or endorsed to the order of any bank, banker or trust company, or with some similar endorsement. Cash items will be accepted by us, and by other Federal Reserve Banks, only upon the understanding and condition that all prior endorsements are guaranteed by the sending bank. There should be incorporated in the endorsement of the sending bank the phrase, “All prior endorsements guaranteed.” The act of sending or deliver*ing a cash item to us or to another Federal Reserve Bank will, however, be deemed and understood to constitute a guaranty of all prior endorsements on such item, whether or not an express guaranty is incorporated in the sending bank’s endorsement. The endorsement of the sending bank should be dated and should show the American Bankers Association transit number of the sending bank in prominent type on both sides.

Like this:

PAY TO THE ORDER OF
THE FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF CHICAGO
59-91144
KLEIN'S SPORTING GOODS, INC.​

FRB Circular 6370, July 18, 1969

All cash items [including Postal Money Oders] sent to us, or to another Federal Reserve Bank direct for our account, should be endorsed without restriction to, or to the order of, the Federal Reserve Bank to which sent, or endorsed to, or to the order of, any bank, banker, or trust company, or endorsed with equivalent words or abbreviations thereof. The endorsement of the sender should be dated and should show the A.B.A. transit number of the sender, if any, in prominent type on both sides of the endorsement.

Like this:

PAY TO THE ORDER OF
THE FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF CHICAGO
59-91144
KLEIN'S SPORTING GOODS, INC.​

Questions?

Yes. Do you like getting hammered with your own evidence?

Or do you not understand the meaning of the very words you quoted, including but not limited to the word "OR"?

Hank

 

[HSienzant]

Quantity should not be conflated with quality, CORed. Billions of flies eat ****.

And more people believe in a conspiracy than not.

Exactly what are you arguing for, again?

I remind you you're up to 96 allegations with no evidence provided, so perhaps you aren't the best person to be talking about quality vs. quantity.

Hank

 

[HSienzant]

Oswald's rendezvous at the theater (whether or not he was hiding from the Police or if he had a handgun) is evidenced not only by the witness statements about Oswald traveling between the theater seats next to people as if looking for a signal from some expected contact, but by the "half/torn dollar bill" evidence.

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/22/2288-001.gif

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pages/WH_Vol22_0105a.jpg

Asked and answered the first five times you brought it up. Please establish these half bills were found on Oswald. Because you never did. You simply assumed it.

Hank

 

[manifesto]

Asked and answered.

Nonsense answer, yes.

Sadistically? lol!

Exatly, ”lol”.

You have it backwards once more. You're attempting to shift the burden of proof still. You're here, I'm here. If you think there's any proof in anything Larsen wrote, cite it here. Now. Let's discuss.

”Now”? Why not there and then? Not enough brothers/sisters in Faith on that forum, Hank?

Wow. Then I guess this post is a mirage, and you're not responding to me at all?

I’m responding to ALL of you, Hank. In due course.

Now that sounds like fun.

Hank

Yes, in the Mighty Church, everything is ”fun”. And protected.

I’m here to tell you the truth, not the fun.

 

[manifesto]

And more people believe in a conspiracy than not.

Exactly what are you arguing for, again?

I remind you you're up to 96 allegations with no evidence provided, so perhaps you aren't the best person to be talking about quality vs. quantity.

Hank

Where do I claim this as evidence of quality, Hank?

 

[HSienzant]

Lt. Day from DPD’s crime lab examined the rifle for fingerprints etc, on the scene at the TSBD 6th floor.

And those were eventuallydetermined to be Oswald's. You lose that round.

He did not check it to see if it had NOT been fired that day.

Source for this claim?

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
And there's the bell signaling a first round knockout.

Hank

 

[HSienzant]

Where do I claim this as evidence of quality, Hank?

You were wise not to do so. But I was comparing your argument about the flies with your posts.

Hank