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Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VI: Lyndon Johnson's Revenge

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Steve said:
I know, I know. It was the "one claim at a time" post that made the connection for me.
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No, it was not. It was and is your membership in the Mighty Church of the Loony Nutters, that made the connection for you.

Just ”slightly above” your unconcious id.
 
manifesto said:
No, it was not. It was and is your membership in the Mighty Church of the Loony Nutters, that made the connection for you.

Just ”slightly above” your unconcious id.
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Sad, really. Not even a semblance of wanting to provide the evidence requested for your fantasies. Do you ;) wonder why you ;) earn mockery and ridicule?
 
RoboTimbo said:
Sad, really. Not even a semblance of wanting to provide the evidence requested for your fantasies. Do you ;) wonder why you ;) earn mockery and ridicule?
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He'll provide the evidence later.

After all, what's thirty months to brave Juror Number Eight, who has an alternative explanation for everything, regardless of the other considerations.

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Earlier today I asked Manifesto about his experience in osteology and got back an irrelevant answer, which I pushed back on. I also provided him with specifics for an issue we were working on since yesterday or the day before, that of where he's getting his knowledge of U.S. intelligence inside practices.

In his return this evening, Manifesto has posted several times but with no apparent purpose beyond insulting his critics. That doesn't seem like the proper priority for someone who claims he answers all questions.
 
MicahJava said:
If a person involved in the investigation is made to feel personally responsible for an error in procedure, or paranoid that the assassin might not get a conviction, then some of the framing and cover-up would be a case of a "naturally forming" conspiracy that doesn't necessarily involve one evil entity bossing everybody around and ordering them to be liars for life. Just think of how paranoid some of the authorities may have been in the following HOURS that their "evil communist" accused assassin didn't leave behind enough evidence for a conviction. Evidence could have been fabricated and substituted without even having to be part of the original homicidal conspiracy.
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Agree. This was the most common response on the ground among the DPD officers and the deputy sheriffs. Almost sleepwalking with their collective wetted index finger in the air waiting for wind direction.

All this changed when a ”fellow cop” got killed and they transformed to a hornets nest very easy to persuade/manipulate in pointing out and catch/kill the guilty villain. It is paramount for every law enforcement to quickly as hell arrest a ”cop killer” in order to restore the ”respect” and thereby security for its officers. Guilty or not guilty is secondary to that. That certainly was the case in Dallas.

Looking at Dallas county’s track reckord under legendary DA Henry Wade, this was an artform on a level almost unique for the USA.
No other county in America — and almost no state, for that matter — has freed more innocent people from prison in recent years than Dallas County, where Wade was DA from 1951 through 1986.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/25917791/...as-das-death-convictions-undone/#.Wxb9J1qeyhA​

A side note. Everyone of the pieces of evidence presented by Henry Wade to the press allegedly pointing to Oswalds guilt, turned out to be false: https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/OI-ALB.html

All of it. What a dude. He should have lots of kindred spirits in this forum.

Guilty until found innocent. The Null.
 
manifesto said:
Guilty until found innocent. The Null.
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manifesto said:
I have named the chief orchestrators of the cover up = at least accessories after the fact = guilty in the conspiracy behind the assassination. I’ll do it again:

Lyndon Baines Johnson - The White house

J. Edgar Hoover - FBI

Allen Dulles - CIA
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Can you ;) explain your extreme hypocrisy where out of one side of your mouth, you ;) condemn these innocent people and out of the other side of your hypocritical mouth you ;) absolve the guilty Oswald?
 
manifesto said:
According to the x-rays the back of the head is almost pristine except for an (new) entrance wound ca 11 cm above the EOP.

Not even the janitor could have positioned it ”slightly above” the EOP. Here we have three senior pathologist, teaching pathology, performing the autopsy of a lifetime and they all got it wrong in a way a little child wouldn’t.

The EOP is as the name indicates a protuberance, a landmark if you like, in the lowest part of the back of the head. ”Slightly above” ≠ opposite side of the back of the head.

The autopsy team came under considerable pressure from the HSCA but they did not change their mind, disputing the new location of the entrance wound suggested by the HSCA medical panel.

A side note. The prominent nutty loner serial plagiarist Gerald Posner lied to Congress when stating that two of the pathologists, Humes and Boswell, had told him they had finally changed their mind regarding the entrance wound and that he would present tape recorded interviews to that fact as soon as time permitted.

When later checking his statement with the two pathologists, they denied being interviewed by him at all and that they had certainly had not changed their mind.

This was more than 20 years ago and needles to say, Posner has still not (to my knowledge) published his ”taped interviews” in support of his contention.

Correct me if I’m wrong.
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Manifesto, check out Pat Speer's website's bit on the x-rays. He lists every person who has examined the original films, only half of them claimed to find any defect resembling an entry wound on the x-rays. Some of the ones who claimed the x-rays do show that contradict themselves, the worst offender of all Michael Baden. I think the "cowlick entry theory" has been more propped up by a the "cowlick red spot" interpretation of the BOH photographs than people realize. And nobody from the autopsy ever agreed with that interpretation.
 
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HSienzant said:
Especially one with a history of attempting to kill political figures opposed to Castro.

Hank
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You make that sound like it's a bad thing. Screw American capitalism and screw their government for their decadely harassment and murder of poor people for profit.
 
MicahJava said:
Manifesto, check out Pat Speer's website's bit on the x-rays. He lists every person who has examined the original films, only half of them claimed to find any defect resembling an entry wound on the x-rays. Some of the ones who claimed the x-rays do show that contradict themselves, the worst offender of all Michael Baden. I think the "cowlick entry theory" has been more propped up by a the "cowlick red spot" interpretation of the BOH photographs than people realize. And nobody from the autopsy ever agreed with that interpretation.
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Yes, I have read Speers articles, but it was a while back. My main contention at this point in time is that the x-ray images are fraudulent no matter how they are ’interpeted’ and by whom.

It’s like a farce.
 
MicahJava said:
Manifesto, check out Pat Speer's website's bit on the x-rays. He lists every person who has examined the original films, only half of them claimed to find any defect resembling an entry wound on the x-rays. Some of the ones who claimed the x-rays do show that contradict themselves, the worst offender of all Michael Baden. I think the "cowlick entry theory" has been more propped up by a the "cowlick red spot" interpretation of the BOH photographs than people realize. And nobody from the autopsy ever agreed with that interpretation.
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How many of these individuals are trained in evaluation of X-rays?
 
bknight said:
How many of these individuals are trained in evaluation of X-rays?
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Honestly, all of the opinions given on the x-rays are unsatisfactory. Experts in gunshot wound x-ray interpretation should re-examine the original films, use modern technology to enhance the images, and conduct experiments with the original type of equipment used at Bethesda. I would not trust any panel of experts obsessed with proving the red spot in the BOH photos is an entry wound to the point of literally coercing Humes himself. The BOH photos have had more than enough expert interpretation in the form of the opinions of the original autopsy participants.
 
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manifesto said:
Yes, I have read Speers articles, but it was a while back. My main contention at this point in time is that the x-ray images are fraudulent no matter how they are ’interpeted’ and by whom.

It’s like a farce.
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Well if they are fake, then we would really have a conspiracy. But a conspiracy can also be argued under the context of some or all of the evidence being real, and there is definitely no reason to think there is any consensus for any entry wound on the x-rays.
 
MicahJava said:
Well if they are fake, then we would really have a conspiracy. But a conspiracy can also be argued under the context of some or all of the evidence being real, and there is definitely no reason to think there is any consensus for any entry wound on the x-rays.
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Does lack of consensus indicate conspiracy? Which of you ;) is wrong? LOL.
 
MicahJava said:
You make that sound like it's a bad thing. Screw American capitalism and screw their government for their decadely harassment and murder of poor people for profit.
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There are no evidence of Oswald trying to kill loony Gen. Walker. They tried to pinn that too on him because they knew they had no case on him assassinating JFK.

- A steel jacketed bullet slug turning in to a copper jacketted bullet slug.

- Two assassins with two cars turning in to a bus riding Lone Oswald.

- Marina Oswald claiming to stop Oswald from also killing Nixon in spite of no Nixon in Dallas at that point in time.

- The first ’tip’ of Oswald being the shooter against Walker came from a German neo nazi news paper in Munich.

- Walker insisting on Oswald not being the shooter.

- Neo nazi Walker was on the opposite side of the US political spectra vs. JFK and got removed from his command for handing out John Birch right wing propaganda to his troops.

- Walker getting locked up in the loony bin by JFK after his actions during the Ole Miss racial riots, 1962.

- In fact, Walker should be a prime suspect in the assassination of JFK.

- And on and on ...
 
MicahJava said:
Honestly, all of the opinions given on the x-rays are unsatisfactory. Experts in gunshot wound x-ray interpretation should re-examine the original films, use modern technology to enhance the images, and conduct experiments with the original type of equipment used at Bethesda. I would not trust any panel of experts obsessed with proving the red spot in the BOH photos is an entry wound to the point of literally coercing Humes himself. The BOH photos have had more than enough expert interpretation in the form of the opinions of the original autopsy participants.
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You didn't answer the question, but attempt to deflect to another concept.
 
manifesto said:
There are no evidence of Oswald trying to kill loony Gen. Walker. They tried to pinn that too on him because they knew they had no case on him assassinating JFK.

- A steel jacketed bullet slug turning in to a copper jacketted bullet slug.

- Two assassins with two cars turning in to a bus riding Lone Oswald.

- Marina Oswald claiming to stop Oswald from also killing Nixon in spite of no Nixon in Dallas at that point in time.

- The first ’tip’ of Oswald being the shooter against Walker came from a German neo nazi news paper in Munich.

- Walker insisting on Oswald not being the shooter.

- Neo nazi Walker was on the opposite side of the US political spectra vs. JFK and got removed from his command for handing out John Birch right wing propaganda to his troops.

- Walker getting locked up in the loony bin by JFK after his actions during the Ole Miss racial riots, 1962.

- In fact, Walker should be a prime suspect in the assassination of JFK.

- And on and on ...
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Cite, Explain and discuss.;)
 
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