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Trump blames Obama for not vetting Flynn for his campaign.
Now he blames the FBI for not vetting Manafort.

It never seems to be his fault.
 
Trump blames Obama for not vetting Flynn for his campaign.
Now he blames the FBI for not vetting Manafort.

It never seems to be his fault.

He blames the FBI for not being candid, it’s all coming out now. Guess who’s going to lose?
 
"Comey and the boys were doing a number on him"


What is he, an old time movie gangster?
 

Someone on the internet incorrectly said the arrests would come on a Monday!

In ChristianProgressive's defense, Manafort and Gates surrendered to arrest on Monday October 30, 2017 which did follow the posting of this thread on Friday October 27, 2017. This is just applecorped failing to understand how linear time operates.

There have been arrests.
There have been indictments
There have been convictions.

As of a few days ago.

There has been 20 people and 3 corporations indicted and 5 people that have been convicted.

This in a 13 month investigation.

In comparison, the investigation into Ben Ghazzi was almost 4 years and the investigation into Hillary's e-mail server was more than 2 years in length. Neither of which produced any indictments or convictions.
 
Or he transferred the money from the government or something. I should have paid closer attention but she did say the money went from the ambassador to the Foundation.

Donations of that size would have been made using a complex formal process or authorised by Cabinet. Downer didn't just come up with the idea and approve it all by himself.
 
Here’s another

....Paul Manafort came into the campaign very late and was with us for a short period of time (he represented Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole & many others over the years), but we should have been told that Comey and the boys were doing a number on him, and he wouldn’t have been hired!


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ans-would-try-infiltrate-his-campaign-n830596


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ssia-ties-mueller-trump-investigation-reveals


Is it your thought that Trump didn't know of Manfort or Cohen's connection to Russia when he hired them? Nothing released so far provides strong evidence that Trump knew of illegal activities by either individual. Is it your thought that the investigation should be over if evidence hasn't been released showing how Trump is involved with the potentially illegal activity by either individual? Is it your thought that without the special counsel Trump's department of justice would have objectively and aggressively investigated Manafort, Flynn or Cohen without a special counsel?


I do have more general questions about your thinking about all this. You seem to strongly support Trump. Is that because he favors policies that you also favor? Like aggressive trade protectionist policies, tax policies that strongly favor wealthy individuals like the massive tax cuts associated with inheritance and pass through corporations? Like the strong anti-environmental polices of the Trump administration? What do you see as the main drivers of your support for Trump? Are you troubled at all by the convictions and indictments of people closely associated with Trump? Are you troubled at all by Trump's use of various illegal scams to exploit less well off people than himself? Are you troubled at all by any aspects of Trump's history? Do you think you would have participated in one of his university scams, or his Mexican land scam, or been a buyer of bonds in his casinos. Do you see the people that were scammed by him as less intelligent than you?
 
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There have been arrests.
There have been indictments
There have been convictions.

As of a few days ago.

There has been 20 people and 3 corporations indicted and 5 people that have been convicted.

This in a 13 month investigation.

In comparison, the investigation into Ben Ghazzi was almost 4 years and the investigation into Hillary's e-mail server was more than 2 years in length. Neither of which produced any indictments or convictions.
Deep state?
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ans-would-try-infiltrate-his-campaign-n830596


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ssia-ties-mueller-trump-investigation-reveals


Is it your thought that Trump didn't know of Manfort or Cohen's connection to Russia when he hired them? Nothing released so far provides strong evidence that Trump knew of illegal activities by either individual. Is it your thought that the investigation should be over if evidence hasn't been released showing how Trump is involved with the potentially illegal activity by either individual? Is it your thought that without the special counsel Trump's department of justice would have objectively and aggressively investigated Manafort, Flynn or Cohen without a special counsel?


I do have more general questions about your thinking about all this. You seem to strongly support Trump. Is that because he favors policies that you also favor? Like aggressive trade protectionist policies, tax policies that strongly favor wealthy individuals like the massive tax cuts associated with inheritance and pass through corporations? Like the strong anti-environmental polices of the Trump administration? What do you see as the main drivers of your support for Trump? Are you troubled at all by the convictions and indictments of people closely associated with Trump? Are you troubled at all by Trump's use of various illegal scams to exploit less well off people than himself? Are you troubled at all by any aspects of Trump's history? Do you think you would have participated in one of his university scams, or his Mexican land scam, or been a buyer of bonds in his casinos. Do you see the people that were scammed by him as less intelligent than you?

Do I really need to answer all these Davefoc?
 
And another, all good points.

As only one of two people left who could become President, why wouldn’t the FBI or Department of “Justice” have told me that they were secretly investigating Paul Manafort (on charges that were 10 years old and had been previously dropped) during my campaign? Should have told me!

I've highlighted the relevant word, to help him.
 
Do I really need to answer all these Davefoc?
:) I won't use my superpowers to force you to answer any of them in keeping with my general libertarian views about this kind of thing.

ETR: I deleted most of the remainder of my post after I saw NoahFence's post. I think that gets at what I intended in a more straightforward way.
 
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Do I really need to answer all these Davefoc?

How about answering at least one of these:

Are you troubled at all by the convictions and indictments of people closely associated with Trump? Are you troubled at all by Trump's use of various illegal scams to exploit less well off people than himself? Are you troubled at all by any aspects of Trump's history? Do you think you would have participated in one of his university scams, or his Mexican land scam, or been a buyer of bonds in his casinos. Do you see the people that were scammed by him as less intelligent than you?

Smart money says you lack the intellectual courage to be honest enough for even one sentence to do so.
 
:) I won't use my superpowers to force you to answer any of them in keeping with my general libertarian views about this kind of thing.

ETR: I deleted most of the remainder of my post after I saw NoahFence's post. I think that gets at what I intended in a more straightforward way.

Those questions are irrelevant.
 
And yet a candidate running for president gets secret briefings once they get the party nomination.

Judging by his son's willingness to meet with Kremlin-backed lawyers to officially get dirt on Clinton, and the company Trump was keeping (Flynn, Manafort), the FBI might have had reservations about letting Trump know they were doing any investigating.
 
That's obviously a big no then...


I guess my money was dumb. I thought he might make an attempt to answer in some way and I would have been interested in what he had to say. If those questions were irrelevant I wonder what he thought would have been a relevant question with regard to this.
 
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Judging by his son's willingness to meet with Kremlin-backed lawyers to officially get dirt on Clinton, and the company Trump was keeping (Flynn, Manafort), the FBI might have had reservations about letting Trump know they were doing any investigating.

Every campaign is interested in dirt. It’s not illegal and the left has perfected it.
 
I guess my money was dumb. I thought he might make an attempt to answer in some way and I would have been interested in what he had to say. If those questions were irrelevant I wonder what he thought would have been a relevant question with regard to this.

I’ll show you how irrelevant they are by answering this way. No one is happy when the person they back gets into trouble or has negative things said about them.

But to ignore what this president has endured by people in government is also not good. The last part of those questions are seriously irrelevant and probably considered a personal attack.
 
Every campaign is interested in dirt. It’s not illegal and the left has perfected it.

It's certainly illegal if that dirt came from an illegal process (hacking Podesta).

I don't know if it's illegal to get dirt from a foreign government in exchange of promises to be lenient to that government (e.g., "lift the Russian sanctions"), but I'm betting that kind of quid-pro-quo is also illegal.

Logger, doesn't it bother you the amount of crooks Trump surrounded himself with? Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Cohen... I know you would not tolerate that from Clinton.
 
I’ll show you how irrelevant they are by answering this way. No one is happy when the person they back gets into trouble or has negative things said about them.

But to ignore what this president has endured by people in government is also not good. The last part of those questions are seriously irrelevant and probably considered a personal attack.

I think it's very telling when you're handpicked Sec of State calls you an ****** moron and won't deny it. Have you ever seen that happen in any other presidency?
 
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