The Trump Presidency VII

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Fast Eddie B said:
I thought he could only impose tariffs for reasons of national security.

Quite a reach to apply that to Canada and Mexico.

If the Congress had the will, I think Trump could be opposed on this.
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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Sunday that the reasoning behind implementing new U.S. tariffs on Canada was "insulting and unacceptable."

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1003304565280821250

“One of the things that I have to admit I'm having a lot of trouble getting around is the idea that this entire thing is coming about because the president and the administration have decided that Canada and Canadian steel and aluminum is a national security threat to the United States,” Trudeau told NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“The idea that we are somehow a national security threat to the United States is quite frankly insulting and unacceptable," he added.
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Lots of Trumpistas Tweeting attacks on Trudeau and Canada. It seems they don't want the 'Snowflakes' north of the border as friends or allies anymore as they are unhappy with Trump.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
I thought he could only impose tariffs for reasons of national security.

Quite a reach to apply that to Canada and Mexico.

If the Congress had the will, I think Trump could be opposed on this.
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Do you really not understand the national security angle? Lol

It’s about our country having a robust manufacturing base. Raw materials is a major part of that.
 
Pixel42 said:
Am I wrong in suspecting that the reason Trump is imposing tariffs is that it's about the only thing he can do? Even his executive orders get overturned by the courts, but nobody can stop him imposing tariffs. He has the power, so he's damned well going to use it, no matter how much damage it does to his country's economy and its relationships with its allies.
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So allowing these “allies” to continue to screw us economically will make those relationships better. When is the left going to figure out this president is America first!
 
If he carries on like he is then pretty soon they won't be allies and America first will be America Alone.
 
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logger said:
So allowing these “allies” to continue to screw us economically will make those relationships better. When is the left going to figure out this president is America first!
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What MAKES what they are doing as screwing us? And what exactly is putting America first? What do tariffs on steel and aluminum do for us?

What you totally fail to recognize is that it is American or multinational corporations that once were American that are screwing America, not other nations.

I worked in the computer industry for 30 years Logger. None of the US branded products we sold were made in the US. They were created and designed in the US but manufactured in Singapore, Malaysia, Korea and China. Was this China's fault or was it Seagate, Intel, Hewlett Packard or Cisco's fault? There was at one time a thriving semiconductor industry in the US,, but corporations were only thinking short term and that labor was cheaper in these other countries. Slapping tariffs on these products is only going to make them more expensive for US and little else.

There may have been a time where tariffs made sense. Say BEFORE we shipped not only the factories to Asia, but any manufacturing expertise.

Trump's commitment to putting America first is a haphazard joke, unlikely to do much more than create hardship on poor and middle-class families already struggling.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
The US Ambassador to Germany in a Breitbart interview says he will personally intervene in internal politics of Europe to empower anti-establishment conservatives.

Directly contradicts State Dept line that Trump admin is neutral, he admitted he wants regime change in Germany?

Another Ally on the way out.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...er-european-anti-establishment-conservatives/

Breitbart really?
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The USA Ambassador to Germany is actively and proudly working to undermine Germany. :jaw-dropp
 
logger said:
So allowing these “allies” to continue to screw us economically will make those relationships better. When is the left going to figure out this president is America first!
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Tariffs don't help the country that puts them in place.
 
acbytesla said:
What MAKES what they are doing as screwing us? And what exactly is putting America first? What do tariffs on steel and aluminum do for us?

What you totally fail to recognize is that it is American or multinational corporations that once were American that are screwing America, not other nations.

I worked in the computer industry for 30 years Logger. None of the US branded products we sold were made in the US. They were created and designed in the US but manufactured in Singapore, Malaysia, Korea and China. Was this China's fault or was it Seagate, Intel, Hewlett Packard or Cisco's fault? There was at one time a thriving semiconductor industry in the US,, but corporations were only thinking short term and that labor was cheaper in these other countries. Slapping tariffs on these products is only going to make them more expensive for US and little else.
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Knowing what you do, you should be able to understand why he’s doing this. Did you think his strategy only involved tariffs? Guess why another part of his broad strategy is coupled with taxes.
There may have been a time where tariffs made sense. Say BEFORE we shipped not only the factories to Asia, but any manufacturing expertise.
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I’m fascinated how you’re so black and white with this kind of thinking. Would it surprise you to know the president isn’t interested in putting tariffs on anyone? Let Trump handle what he’s best at.
Trump's commitment to putting America first is a haphazard joke, unlikely to do much more than create hardship on poor and middle-class families already struggling.
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Seeing what you’ve posted, I have no reason to believe you’ll ever understand how he’s getting this done.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
If he carries on like he is then pretty soon they won't be allies and America first will be America Alone.
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It is impossible for the world to ignore its heart. We are the beacon for the world, we are responsible for keeping the peace on this planet. Can you imagine if the world only had China and Russia as the two major powers? Lol.
 
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logger said:
It is impossible for the world would ignore its heart. We are the beacon for the world, we are responsible for keeping the peace on this planet. Can you imagine if the world only had China and Russia as the two major powers? Lol.
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No need to imagine it. It's well on the way to being the reality because of that **** stain you elected.
 
What makes these better than Bush' tariffs? Obamas were targeted, but both his and Bush didn't do the job intended and were bad for the economy.
 
ShadowSot said:
What makes these better than Bush' tariffs? Obamas were targeted, but both his and Bush didn't do the job intended and were bad for the economy.
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It’s a much broader argument. The other two never intended to follow through. They had too many establishment people controlling them.
 
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