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Missouri governor to resign

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Facing impeachment over an extramarital affair and campaign finance inquiry, Missouri Governor Eric Greitens has announced he will quit on Friday.
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He should have just continued to deny, deny, deny IMO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44297378

A Republican rising star brought down by the deep state ?

Or maybe a political grifter.....

He was charged last month with felony computer data tampering to obtain a donor list for a veterans' charity he founded in 2007 without permission for his own political gain.

Earlier on Tuesday, a court ruling added to Mr Greitens' problems.

A judge gave the governor's political non-profit group, A New Missouri, until Friday to turn over communications between it and Mr Greitens' office.

Investigators are looking into whether his campaign illegally co-ordinated with A New Missouri to conceal donors by using shell companies to funnel money.
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Yeah, that the resignation came after a court ruling that Grietens organization had to hand over it's documents is just a coincidence....

I have images of Grietans being just like Mel Brooks Corrupt Governor in "Blazing Saddles"

"We have to protect our phony baloney jobs".
 
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So, if we pick some period of time, say, the past few years, and tot up the numbers of R vs D resignations, convictions and general scandalous activity, what would be the ratio?
 
Lurch said:
So, if we pick some period of time, say, the past few years, and tot up the numbers of R vs D resignations, convictions and general scandalous activity, what would be the ratio?
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Oooh! I know: irrelevant?

ETA: not being flippant, just that party only matters if the other party fills the spot. Like Roy Moore.
 
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Dr. Keith said:
Oooh! I know: irrelevant?

ETA: not being flippant, just that party only matters if the other party fills the spot. Like Roy Moore.
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Why would such a comparison be irrelevant? If one party suffers a higher frequency of legal troubles, might that not be indicative of a culture of more/worse impropriety in that party?

I'm Canadian, but I get the distinct impression that the Rs suffer a considerably higher frequency of legal hits than do the Ds.

About the other party filling the spot. I don't follow your meaning. Are you suggesting a purely partisan interpretation is going on? Or do you mean such comparisons are relevant only if the bad guy loses to the opposition?

In any event, the objective facts as borne out by convictions or resignations cannot be sloughed off as ambiguous interpretation along the lines of "we said they said."
 
Lurch said:
Why would such a comparison be irrelevant? If one party suffers a higher frequency of legal troubles, might that not be indicative of a culture of more/worse impropriety in that party?
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In which case, number of resignations may not be a good metric. It seems (to my biased and untutored eye) that Democratic Party politicians tend to resign comparatively early if they have problems of this type whereas GOP politicians hang on for grim death. Looking at it another way, Democratic Party politicians are more prepared to abandon the electorate, GOP politicians stick at it regardless of the vicissitudes of political life.

There are doubtless notable counter-examples on both sides.

Even if more GOP politicians are in the cross-hairs that could just be due to the fact that the #FakeNews media is prepared to pick upon every rumour whereas FoxNews, WorldNewsDaily and other #RealNews outlets wouldn't say anything that isn't demonstrably and unequivocally true. ;)

Alternatively it could be that they're all at it, but that GOP politicians are bad at it and keep getting caught. OTOH Shillary the Hildebeast is the crookedest politician ever and yet she's so good at it, and the deep state is so effective, that somehow she can never quite be pinned down...:rolleyes:
 
Then there is Illinois, where both parties seem in a contest as to which one can be the most corrupt...
 
The Don said:
In which case, number of resignations may not be a good metric. It seems (to my biased and untutored eye) that Democratic Party politicians tend to resign comparatively early if they have problems of this type whereas GOP politicians hang on for grim death. Looking at it another way, Democratic Party politicians are more prepared to abandon the electorate, GOP politicians stick at it regardless of the vicissitudes of political life.

There are doubtless notable counter-examples on both sides.

Even if more GOP politicians are in the cross-hairs that could just be due to the fact that the #FakeNews media is prepared to pick upon every rumour whereas FoxNews, WorldNewsDaily and other #RealNews outlets wouldn't say anything that isn't demonstrably and unequivocally true. ;)

Alternatively it could be that they're all at it, but that GOP politicians are bad at it and keep getting caught. OTOH Shillary the Hildebeast is the crookedest politician ever and yet she's so good at it, and the deep state is so effective, that somehow she can never quite be pinned down...:rolleyes:
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Or just that the R's get in more trouble for it because of their fondness for proclaiming themselves the party of "Family Values". Which includes Greitens himself.
 
Lurch said:
Why would such a comparison be irrelevant? If one party suffers a higher frequency of legal troubles, might that not be indicative of a culture of more/worse impropriety in that party?

I'm Canadian, but I get the distinct impression that the Rs suffer a considerably higher frequency of legal hits than do the Ds.

About the other party filling the spot. I don't follow your meaning. Are you suggesting a purely partisan interpretation is going on? Or do you mean such comparisons are relevant only if the bad guy loses to the opposition?

In any event, the objective facts as borne out by convictions or resignations cannot be sloughed off as ambiguous interpretation along the lines of "we said they said."
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It's certainly relevant when one party claims to be the party of "family values and law and order".
 
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Things have... changed over the past few years in this case. Greitens has basically been exonerated, the prosecutor is in potential trouble for misconduct, and the investigator is already under indictment.

https://justthenews.com/accountabil...d-gop-governor-boomerangs-george-soros-backed
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This is very clearly not a reliable source; for instance in the middle of the article it randomly asides to the Trump-Russia allegations, calling them "debunked" which is objectively a lie.

Do you have a different source?
 
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