Wearing a MAGA Hat While Black

[dudalb]

White supremacism has been central to Dolt 45's politics since he began pushing birtherism in 2011. Saying it should be ignored is as absurd as saying that we shouldn't discuss his sexual abuse or his pathetic business career.

And that is what his supporters just don't see..or don't want to see:That Trump's whole shtick is basically the Angry White Man routine.
ANd I note that, once again, his supporters reduced to "Your're Another"!

Truth is, I am convinced that some of Trump's supporters, though perhaps not racists themselves,want to overlook Trump's racism because they like his other policies. I think this is a horrid mistake. Reminds me too much of the Germans who might not have approved of Hitler's polity toward the Jews, but tolerated it because they though he was making Germany Strong Again....

 

[applecorped]

What, no $200,000 fund is going to be set up by the Cheesecake Factory? I guess Starbucks is more virtuous.

 

[Mumbles]

But you don't need to hurl racial epithets at his supporters when so many race neutral epithets apply.

That would be true, if I agreed that they were racial epithets or racial slurs.

I do not.

At most, they need to stay in their own lane. And again, if they're black, then they're looking out for themselves, their families, and their communities against a clear threat (and again, an actual "I think it's fine for police to attack black people without cause" threat, not a "don't bring a white person into my neighborhood" fake threat), so I have no major objection.

Much like I figure transgendered people can call Caitlyn Jenner whatever they wish for *her* endorsement of Dolt 45, but when I point out that his anti-trans moves were entirely predictable, and that she was therefore a fool to endorse him and claim that he'd be all for equality for trans people, but I'm not going to use certain terms, because that's not my lane.

And that is what his supporters just don't see..or don't want to see:That Trump's whole shtick is basically the Angry White Man routine.
ANd I note that, once again, his supporters reduced to "Your're Another"!

Truth is, I am convinced that some of Trump's supporters, though perhaps not racists themselves,want to overlook Trump's racism because they like his other policies. I think this is a horrid mistake. Reminds me too much of the Germans who might not have approved of Hitler's polity toward the Jews, but tolerated it because they though he was making Germany Strong Again....

Exactly.

ETA: Again, there are differences between "conservative" (many black people are this), "Republican" (far fewer black people are this), and "Toupee Fiasco supporter" (very few black people are this). I'd strongly object to anyone calling Michael Steele, Colin Powell, or even Tim Scott "race traitors", because I think that's deeply mistaken. But for black people who support the current US president...well...I won't say it myself, but I'm not objecting if another black person does.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Slightly sidetrack, but a few weeks ago a Danish tourist was beaten up i NY for wearing a MAGA cap. While it's not ok, the bloody idiot should have left his politics at home while visiting another country.

 

[bluesjnr]

I think the word people are looking for is 'intersectionality'. Every individual belongs to more than one group, and sometimes this results in conflict.

One thing that always depresses me is gay racists. It just seems like of all people they should know better, but that's humanity for you. We won't get along until we meet aliens, then we'll band together to be nasty to them.

.... unless they look exactly like us but are all black and gay.

 

[Brainster]

And that is what his supporters just don't see..or don't want to see:That Trump's whole shtick is basically the Angry White Man routine.
ANd I note that, once again, his supporters reduced to "Your're Another"!

Truth is, I am convinced that some of Trump's supporters, though perhaps not racists themselves,want to overlook Trump's racism because they like his other policies. I think this is a horrid mistake. Reminds me too much of the Germans who might not have approved of Hitler's polity toward the Jews, but tolerated it because they though he was making Germany Strong Again....

So is it alright to verbally and physically assault Trump supporters?

This BS has gone on far too long, and I am no longer going to dismiss it. Okay, you think Trump is Hitler and those of us who are perceived as supporting him are goose-stepping fools/goons/whatever.

Alright, so 15 months into Herr Trumpler's reign and he must be fomenting incredible hatred against minorities, right?.

Check. A couple of black men got refused bathroom privileges at Starbucks. Let's call that Starbucknacht.

A black woman was harassed by a white feminist at Yale. A black family was harassed by a white woman for burning charcoals in a grill that was not for charcoals. And a whole lot of other incidents that add up to people (on both sides) acting badly but badly in a 2000s sense--they call the cops and let them sort it out.

But, you know, just a tad short of what I would expect from a society anywhere near enacting a holocaust on some (so far unnamed) ethnic group that would make the Hitler analogy complete. Don't get me wrong, you are to be applauded for your vigilance, as is the guy protecting America from attacks by rogue elephants. The next time either of you might be right and we will be grateful.

 

[Craig4]

Slightly sidetrack, but a few weeks ago a Danish tourist was beaten up i NY for wearing a MAGA cap. While it's not ok, the bloody idiot should have left his politics at home while visiting another country.

Did the New Yorkers perhaps rule out irony before beginning the beat down?

 

[bluesjnr]

So is it alright to verbally and physically assault Trump supporters?

This BS has gone on far too long, and I am no longer going to dismiss it. Okay, you think Trump is Hitler and those of us who are perceived as supporting him are goose-stepping fools/goons/whatever.

Alright, so 15 months into Herr Trumpler's reign and he must be fomenting incredible hatred against minorities, right?.

Check. A couple of black men got refused bathroom privileges at Starbucks. Let's call that Starbucknacht.

A black woman was harassed by a white feminist at Yale. A black family was harassed by a white woman for burning charcoals in a grill that was not for charcoals. And a whole lot of other incidents that add up to people (on both sides) acting badly but badly in a 2000s sense--they call the cops and let them sort it out.

But, you know, just a tad short of what I would expect from a society anywhere near enacting a holocaust on some (so far unnamed) ethnic group that would make the Hitler analogy complete. Don't get me wrong, you are to be applauded for your vigilance, as is the guy protecting America from attacks by rogue elephants. The next time either of you might be right and we will be grateful.

This and this again. I'm appalled and surprised at the lack of insight shown by those posters who are against Trump.

Not being a political animal myself and not having a dog in the fight (UK'er) I have tended to try and ignore the ranting and rabid nonsense some of them have posted. I get that he evokes deeply devisive emotions but for ***** sake reel it in some of you.

 

[applecorped]

Slightly sidetrack, but a few weeks ago a Danish tourist was beaten up i NY for wearing a MAGA cap. While it's not ok, the bloody idiot should have left his politics at home while visiting another country.

Of course she was asking for it did you see how she was dressed?

 

[uke2se]

So is it alright to verbally and physically assault Trump supporters?

This BS has gone on far too long, and I am no longer going to dismiss it. Okay, you think Trump is Hitler and those of us who are perceived as supporting him are goose-stepping fools/goons/whatever.

Alright, so 15 months into Herr Trumpler's reign and he must be fomenting incredible hatred against minorities, right?.

Check. A couple of black men got refused bathroom privileges at Starbucks. Let's call that Starbucknacht.

A black woman was harassed by a white feminist at Yale. A black family was harassed by a white woman for burning charcoals in a grill that was not for charcoals. And a whole lot of other incidents that add up to people (on both sides) acting badly but badly in a 2000s sense--they call the cops and let them sort it out.

But, you know, just a tad short of what I would expect from a society anywhere near enacting a holocaust on some (so far unnamed) ethnic group that would make the Hitler analogy complete. Don't get me wrong, you are to be applauded for your vigilance, as is the guy protecting America from attacks by rogue elephants. The next time either of you might be right and we will be grateful.

Exactly. When you dismiss all the cases of open racism and hatred in Trump's wake, there's nothing to worry about. Well done!

I also like how you insinuate that the threads about white people calling the cops on black people these last couple of weeks completely sums up the problem and isn't a symptom of a much greater problem. You really got this, chum.

 

[Mumbles]

This and this again. I'm appalled and surprised at the lack of insight shown by those posters who are against Trump.

Not being a political animal myself and not having a dog in the fight (UK'er) I have tended to try and ignore the ranting and rabid nonsense some of them have posted. I get that he evokes deeply devisive emotions but for ***** sake reel it in some of you.

To be clear - I will stop calling Dolt 45 a white supremacist when he stops advocating policies that are crafted specifically to drain wealth out of nonwhite communities, and give that wealth to white people, and especially him and his cronies, and when he stops using race and ethnicity to berate and insult others.

And not one second sooner.

Until then, he's no better than George Wallace in this regard, and only better than Richard Spencer in that the latter is also anti-semitic, and outright in favor of ethnic cleansing. And I consider people who claim that he's anything less to be the same as people who claim that he's an amazingly good businessman, at best. No, he's a failed real estate developer who almost certainly is kept afloat via illegal activity, and like his racism, this has been known long before his campaign launch.

 

[ahhell]

Is the very concept of traitor meaningful ever? People are acting in accordance with their ideology, be that not caring about their individual rights compared to tax cuts with say log cabin republicans, or choosing to send information to other nations for ideological reasons.

Sometimes its just for money. I figure if you actively work to undermine a cause you've publicly claimed support for, the title of traitor seems appropriate.

Minor tangent, the USA Today recently published an analysis of the Russian Facebook ad campaign, turns out it was mostly aimed at stoking racial tension. Seems like they succeeded.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...russians-accused-election-meddling/602319002/

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Of course she was asking for it did you see how she was dressed?

I take it you travel a lot?

 

[Craig4]

This and this again. I'm appalled and surprised at the lack of insight shown by those posters who are against Trump.

Not being a political animal myself and not having a dog in the fight (UK'er) I have tended to try and ignore the ranting and rabid nonsense some of them have posted. I get that he evokes deeply devisive emotions but for ***** sake reel it in some of you.

Easy for you to say. Your PM isn't a Russian whore. Our president is.

 

[Thermal]

This and this again. I'm appalled and surprised at the lack of insight shown by those posters who are against Trump.

Not being a political animal myself and not having a dog in the fight (UK'er) I have tended to try and ignore the ranting and rabid nonsense some of them have posted. I get that he evokes deeply devisive emotions but for ***** sake reel it in some of you.

In all seriousness, this forum is the most restrained discussion you will see regarding the President. Engine room level discourse is more bitterly polarizing than you could imagine

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

Minor tangent, the USA Today recently published an analysis of the Russian Facebook ad campaign, turns out it was mostly aimed at stoking racial tension

The Russian Facebook ad campaign or the Democratic Party?

 

[applecorped]

I take it you travel a lot?

Keep trying

 

[applecorped]

In all seriousness, this forum is the most restrained discussion you will see regarding the President.

 

[Foolmewunz]

I love the number of conservative flies this stinking pile of crap story has attracted.

This would seem to be just like the liars who claimed that Trump supporters told them they better watch themselves, go to the back of the bus, not wear their hijab, etc... All of them proved to be either outright lies or blown out of proportion. Or the whacko who claimed the big scary dark-skinned guys attacked her and mirror-wrote Obama on her forehead. Or the Trumpista liars who claim they couldn't get served because they were Trump supporters.

What, in this story, stinks of those stories? A lot. A convenient narrative, support only by members of his party, overblown claims, dubious journalists picking it up (Ben Shapiro, Breitbart, Fox & Friends). The source of the N-word claim seems to be the reporter working for Shapiro. Surely Mr. Joseph would've made that claim in one of his interviews. He also claims to have video of the event - maybe he does and realized he'd have to drop that lie.

The Cheesecake Factory has fired the two employees who were annoying him. Two, not a whole staff of them. Cheesecake Factory also says their security footage does not bear out his claims. Let's see Mr. Joseph's footage; he's had ample opportunities to show it with all of his new right wing news buddies.

And, the cynical conservative's favorite proof of lies.... He's suing!

Ask yourself... how did Dailywire break the story? More significant ask yourself why Mr. Joseph called the Dailywire and not the Miami Herald?

C'mon, folks.

 

[dann]

Minor tangent, the USA Today recently published an analysis of the Russian Facebook ad campaign, turns out it was mostly aimed at stoking racial tension. Seems like they succeeded.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...russians-accused-election-meddling/602319002/

This observation is probably correct:

“They are stirring up the racial pot, while then trying to connect with minority groups and saying, 'Look at how racist the content is online.' They don’t really have to do that because the content online is racist without the Russians, to be very clear,” Schafer said.