Cont: The Trump Presidency VI

[ponderingturtle]

I read that article earlier today. It appears to me to indicate Dump started to launder money for somebody (some Russian somebody) in 2006. Then, about when he got serious about running for prez, he went back to his old ways. I'm no financial fraud guru but looking from the outside, his behavior alone would justify a money laundering investigation. No wonder Dump is ******** bricks.

Why is this a big deal? Everyone knew and accepted his history of money laundering in the election.

See

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

 

[bonzombiekitty]

That seems astounding.

The more accurate statement is that in one month (this past January I think), London had a higher murder rate than NYC for the first time in a long time.

 

[quadraginta]

Granted.

The Bataclan terrorists had AK47s I believe. The posited 'good guy' would almost certainly only be carrying a hand gun and end up as another victim.
By all accounts the French police response by the specialist team was as effective as it could be in the circumstances; I would say heroic.

How anyone, even right wing Republicans or the most enthusiastic second amendment supporter can tolerate such ignorant, disrespectful and downright disgusting comments from Trump is something I have great difficulty understanding.

You're not from around here, are you?

 

[quadraginta]

Speaking as someone who grew up in the crack era, in the hood, and who has lost a great number of friends and associates to gun violence over the decades:

Please do NOT attempt to persuade Dolt 45 to "get involved" in any such matter. It's not in his jurisdiction as president to begin with, and what little he's done so far can only make things worse by poisoning police-community relations even more throughout the US. The full attention of a white supremacist like him would, I have no doubt, prove to be a complete disaster that would make things vastly worse, while his idiot cultists would cheer him preening around about how he "keeps our children safe."

Slight adjustment.

Aside from that, I agree completely.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

The more accurate statement is that in one month (this past January I think), London had a higher murder rate than NYC for the first time in a long time.

Well, even that runs counter to the idyllic mental image I have of London, with “Bobbies on bicycles, two by two”.

On that related topic, are regular street cops in London still unarmed? If so, responding to a knifing in process sounds like a very risky proposition.

It was suggested that London needed to work on stronger knife laws. Seems like a slippery slope designed to make sure a law-abiding citizen has virtually NO means of self defense.

 

[Dragon]

You're not from around here, are you?

Nope, like most Brits and other Europeans I'm looking on in a mixture of disbelief and horror at what is happening in the United States.

Is what Trump is doing to disgrace the office of President and completely disregard any idea of good governance really worth it to Republicans for any of their policies he might advance?

 

[quadraginta]

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It was suggested that London needed to work on stronger knife laws. Seems like a slippery slope designed to make sure a law-abiding citizen has virtually NO means of self defense.

Short of an outright ban I'm not sure how much stronger they could get.

Maybe you meant stronger penalties.

 

[quadraginta]

Life is not an action movie and a firearm is not a fetish item that simply wards away evil. The weapon is only as good as the person wielding its ability to shoot, move and communicate. The ability to shoot, move and communicate is a perishable skill that requires regular training and reinforcement that most people have neither the nor the resources for.

While we're on the topic, how do the "good guys" who area almost certainly untrained going to identify friend from foe in an active shooter? How about you look up the term fratricide.

"Friendly fire" might be more appropriate.

Although I'm kinda leaning toward "collateral damage" since the extra casualties would likely be more civilians minding their own business.

"Collateral damage" means it's okay because it was in a good cause.

Or something.

'The ends justify the means' and all that.

 

[thaiboxerken]

It was suggested that London needed to work on stronger knife laws. Seems like a slippery slope designed to make sure a law-abiding citizen has virtually NO means of self defense.

I doubt it. I'm sure that calls to regulate knives are about public safety.

 

[quadraginta]

My evil ex had a .38 special - she only ever fired it once. At me.

She missed. Which was a good thing.

So you say.

This is a skeptics forum, buddy. You can't just come in here making wild, unsubstantiated claims.

How about some evidence. Citations. Reliable sources.

You know the drill.












































(Insert obligatory smiley for the humor impaired.)

 

[quadraginta]

Nope, like most Brits and other Europeans I'm looking on in a mixture of disbelief and horror at what is happening in the United States.

Does it help to take your mind off that whole Brexit thing?

Contemplate this. It is unlikely that Trump will be around for more than a few more years at worst, and he'll probably be taking down a lot of his cronies with him. Possibly sooner rather than later.

Do you see things looking up for the U.K. once they are actually all the way out of the E.U.?

Is what Trump is doing to disgrace the office of President and completely disregard any idea of good governance really worth it to Republicans for any of their policies he might advance?

Apparently so.

But their facade of moral and ethical rectitude and any concern for the well-being of the country or its citizens has always been tissue thin.

The only ones who are surprised by it being stripped away are the ones who have had their eyes closed for the past few decades.

 

[Dragon]

Well, even that runs counter to the idyllic mental image I have of London, with “Bobbies on bicycles, two by two”.

On that related topic, are regular street cops in London still unarmed? If so, responding to a knifing in process sounds like a very risky proposition.

It was suggested that London needed to work on stronger knife laws. Seems like a slippery slope designed to make sure a law-abiding citizen has virtually NO means of self defense.

Forget "Dixon of Dock Green", that was always fiction.

Regular street cops do not carry firearms. They have Asp batons, CS spray and rigid handcuffs. Protective vests are mandatory, they are designed to protect against blades and handguns up to 9mm or .357 magnum. Tazers are carried by a certain number of patrol officers so would be readily available to deal with a knife threat. In London there are several Armed Response Vehicles on patrol at any one time. They will often be assigned to such incidents. In the London Bridge terrorist attack last year the three perpetrators were shot dead within eight minutes of the first 999 call.

It's long been policy in the UK that people should not be 'tooled up' in public places, whether it be with firearms, knives or other offensive weapons. I think that general principle is a good one.

 

[Aber]

And Trump is off again this morning:

The Russia Witch Hunt is rapidly losing credibility. House Intelligence Committee found No Collusion, Coordination or anything else with Russia. So now the Probe says OK, what else is there? How about Obstruction for a made up, phony crime.There is no O, it’s called Fighting Back

The 13 Angry Democrats in charge of the Russian Witch Hunt are starting to find out that there is a Court System in place that actually protects people from injustice...and just wait ‘till the Courts get to see your unrevealed Conflicts of Interest!

Lisa Page, who may hold the record for the most Emails in the shortest period of time (to her Lover, Peter S), and attorney Baker, are out at the FBI as part of the Probers getting caught? Why is Peter S still there? What a total mess. Our Country has to get back to Business!

Is this Phony Witch Hunt going to go on even longer so it wrongfully impacts the Mid-Term Elections, which is what the Democrats always intended? Republicans better get tough and smart before it is too late!

 

[TheSupermeerkat]

Boris Johnson, the British foreign secretary, pleaded with Donald Trump not to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal on Monday. Johnson, in the US but not scheduled to meet Trump in person, appealed instead via an opinion piece in the New York Times and a more direct channel: an appearance on Fox & Friends, the president’s news show of choice

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/07/boris-johnson-fox-friends-trump-iran-deal

Clever move on BoJo’s part, but he’s still a dickhead.

 

[Upchurch]

And Trump is off again this morning:

Wait. Trump is complaining about conflicts of interest?



I honestly don't know why that surprised me.

 

[Trebuchet]

Giuliani says I'm 'focused on the law more than the facts right now'

Don't they go together?


https://t.co/oLiSgSXFGb

When the facts are on your side, pound the facts.
When the law is on your side, pound the law.
When neither is on your side, pound the table.

 

[Garrison]

Boris Johnson, the British foreign secretary, pleaded with Donald Trump not to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal on Monday. Johnson, in the US but not scheduled to meet Trump in person, appealed instead via an opinion piece in the New York Times and a more direct channel: an appearance on Fox & Friends, the president’s news show of choice

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/07/boris-johnson-fox-friends-trump-iran-deal

Clever move on BoJo’s part, but he’s still a dickhead.

Maybe an appeal from the man who is clearly his long lost brother will sway Trump...

 

[Dragon]

Does it help to take your mind off that whole Brexit thing?

Contemplate this. It is unlikely that Trump will be around for more than a few more years at worst, and he'll probably be taking down a lot of his cronies with him. Possibly sooner rather than later.

Do you see things looking up for the U.K. once they are actually all the way out of the E.U.?




Apparently so.

But their facade of moral and ethical rectitude and any concern for the well-being of the country or its citizens has always been tissue thin.

The only ones who are surprised by it being stripped away are the ones who have had their eyes closed for the past few decades.

I voted to remain in the EU, because I believe that we would be a more prosperous country had we stayed in. I also think of myself as European, having visited a fair slice of the rest of the EU and looking forward to seeing more of it. So, to answer your question, I think that things will get worse economically unless our government is able to do a deal which involves a form of customs union and access to the single market. My hope is that there's a majority in Parliament for that type of deal, the problem is that it will mean both major parties looking to the long term good of the country and not to short term political advantage - sound familiar?

You may well be right that your current difficulties will be shorter lived than ours. I accept what you say about the Republican politicians as a view formed from experience - but there must be some who have the courage to take a principled stand?

 

[slyjoe]

And Trump is off again this morning:

If I was Trump, I would stop calling the investigation a witch hunt.

He needs to remember the last time we had a witch hunt we found witches and burned them at the stake.

 

[alfaniner]

When the facts are on your side, pound the facts.
When the law is on your side, pound the law.
When neither is on your side, pound the table.

I first read that as:

When neither is on your side, pound the bible.