Cont: The Trump Presidency VI

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mgidm86 said:
As the Presidents personal physician is this doctor required to divulge Trumps information to the press whenever they ask? I'm wondering why he told them what meds he was taking. If that's what he's supposed to do then fine, but if not I'd be a little pissed if my doctor revealed I was taking anti-hair loss drugs.

Seems like the biggest story of the week so far so I don't want to miss out on anything! :rolleyes:
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Trump could have legitimately sued, but then the story would have been bigger.

What's more remarkable is, was Trump that insecure about getting propecia? Maybe. Or were there worse things in that file Trump was afraid might get out?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Don't know, what if it actually sounded like a mob shakedown? Surely the doc knew Trump's bodyguard, he had reason then to think it was a theft on Trump's orders.

Just saying the story is credible, crime reported or not.
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I didn't mean I don't believe him. I do. I just make the point that almost anyone else would have said "Get out or I'm calling the cops!" The doc was either intimidated or he thought his buddy Trump was entitled to take the records.
 
blutoski said:
I still want to try, and continue the socratic dialogue, because I think there's a continuum, and a portion can be persuaded. It may be enough to secure competent governance for the foreseeable future.

We're in a situation of four forces that all nations need to adapt to: climate change, technological advancement pace, economic globalization, and population growth. The USA needs to change, and it looks like when presented with Clinton's model of modernization versus Trump's model of nostalgia, this time around the electorate went with nostalgia.

That won't work, it'll make things much worse, but what's not clear to me is whether the public will absorb the cause->effect relationship, or will failure lead to doubling down.
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In principle, I agree with you, but I did think that the few conservatives on the forum stayed despite their minority status. They tend to be more partisan than the average Trump voter in my opinion.

This is only a gut feeling, not to be taken as gospel.
 
mgidm86 said:
As the Presidents personal physician is this doctor required to divulge Trumps information to the press whenever they ask? I'm wondering why he told them what meds he was taking. If that's what he's supposed to do then fine, but if not I'd be a little pissed if my doctor revealed I was taking anti-hair loss drugs.

Seems like the biggest story of the week so far so I don't want to miss out on anything! :rolleyes:
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That sounds like an issue, and so does giving up records to a third party, depending on whether they had appropriate authorization to receive those records.
 
mgidm86 said:
As the Presidents personal physician is this doctor required to divulge Trumps information to the press whenever they ask? I'm wondering why he told them what meds he was taking. If that's what he's supposed to do then fine, but if not I'd be a little pissed if my doctor revealed I was taking anti-hair loss drugs.
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Not defending the doc, but he did release a statement about Trump's health (".... will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency,") at candidate Trump's request (and possibly his dictation, from the phrasing). The doc might have believed that he had permission to discuss Trump's health with inquiring reporters, especially to praise him.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...lth-letter-just-5-minutes-limo-waited-n638526
 
Bob001 said:
The doc wasn't asked to photocopy documents. He says his visitors took the originals, and spent half-an-hour rummaging through his files.
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Minor point...

If you had these non-medical people (like the body guard) rummaging through files, wouldn't that also put the confidentiality of other patients at risk? (Since they may inadvertently see other patient's details.)

I know that the chance of any one person having a stranger look at their files isn't likely to cause any hardship, but some people would probably prefer that their stuff remain private.
 
Segnosaur said:
Minor point...

If you had these non-medical people (like the body guard) rummaging through files, wouldn't that also put the confidentiality of other patients at risk? (Since they may inadvertently see other patient's details.)

I know that the chance of any one person having a stranger look at their files isn't likely to cause any hardship, but some people would probably prefer that their stuff remain private.
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Makes you wonder how a "bodyguard" would know what to look for in medical files.

They would have a hard time doing this with my doc. Not a paper file in the office - all electronic.
 
Steve said:
Makes you wonder how a "bodyguard" would know what to look for in medical files.

They would have a hard time doing this with my doc. Not a paper file in the office - all electronic.
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The whole thing sounds partly fabricated (ie: based on some sort of truth, like, maybe he was asked to transmit Trump's files through a perfectly legal HIPPA procedure, and he's got a grudge with Trump for being overlooked for some plum job in Washington, so throwing out accusations).

I rarely endorse 'judging a book by its cover' but the doc even looks bonkers. Like the photographers just caught him smoking banana peels or something.
 
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Asked how he could justify saying Trump would be the healthiest president ever, Bornstein said, "I like that sentence to be quite honest with you and all the rest of them are either sick or dead."
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I hadn't heard that bit before!

blutoski said:
I rarely endorse 'judging a book by its cover' but the doc even looks bonkers. Like the photographers just caught him smoking banana peels or something.
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Probably spending way too much time in the bowels of Area 51, working on that alien physiology.
 
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
Of 2017, apparently.
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I'm trying to understand the "why now" part of this.

Working hypothesis is grudge over not getting Jackon's job, which he forgot about for a year but just reminded by seeing Jackson in the news or something.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Strictly speaking I think no one other than Kanye matters to Kanye.
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Also, he once bragged that he doesn't read books. Which may be why he thinks slavery was a "choice", as per this interview:



...stay in school, folks. Read books. And don't embrace Kanye West when he starts acting up.
 
Mumbles said:
Also, he once bragged that he doesn't read books. Which may be why he thinks slavery was a "choice", as per this interview:



...stay in school, folks. Read books. And don't embrace Kanye West when he starts acting up.
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I couldn't even sit through that, is he always that rambling and incoherent?

I'm still none the wiser about why he loves Trump. :confused:
 
Stacko said:
Well knock me over with a feather.

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But remember, we have it on good authority in this thread that Trump doesn't lie any more than any other president.

This is just mental.

To be fair, the doctor is also culpable, and should probably lose his license.

But that Trump would even put the guy up to it in the first place shows how much of a slimeball he is.

ETA: Granted, no one paying attention actually fell for it, but his worshippers, otoh...
 
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The raped comment was worse than unfortunate.

In an interview this idiot said he didn't think it was illegal to tell people a patient was on propecia because he didn't think anyone should care. That ought to get his licensed reviewed by the state board*, at least.

And three, what woke Rumpelstiltskin up?



*Off topic for this post but not for the thread: The Candyman in the WH may very well have also drawn the attention of the licensing board. It could explain his not returning.
 
blutoski said:
I'm trying to understand the "why now" part of this.

Working hypothesis is grudge over not getting Jackon's job, which he forgot about for a year but just reminded by seeing Jackson in the news or something.
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My hypothesis, could be some Trump slight, but it could also be the guy just got a little too drunk and dialed CNN.

Or maybe both.

But yeah, the issues with the WH doc in the news could also have played a part here.
 
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