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Guess how much Gage makes selling lies!

How much did Richard Gage make selling lies

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In fact, Gage doesn't do much of anything, despite claiming to work 80 hours a week.......


I'm very skeptical of that claim.....
 
If we're concerned about the dollar value of Gage's little front rather than the legitimacy of his cause, then I'd be more interested in what he does with the other 75%. He certainly doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything.
 
R.Mackey said:
If we're concerned about the dollar value of Gage's little front rather than the legitimacy of his cause, then I'd be more interested in what he does with the other 75%. He certainly doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything.
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He has to keep spreading his lies/false information to keep getting donations. He has to use the money to ask for more money. I am slightly interested in the equilibrium point, where he can't fool more people, and his income levels out. So far his NPO has taken in more money each year.

It might be interesting to study Gage's efforts. He is selling nonsenses, and he makes over 300 to 400 k two years running. I know we can sell nothing, and Gage is doing it. Could we sell a valid product and equal Gage, using his model? I would not be surprised if we see a few other 911 truth related nuts/frauds try to build a similar organization to Gage's.

Oops, more nuts (acting like nuts) trying to cash in on 911 by spreading lies, and promises of carrying out their plan, http://9-11cc.org/index.php/about-us/about-the-campaign/
Our strategic plan
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How many liars can 911 truth nonsense support?
 
beachnut said:
He has to keep spreading his lies/false information to keep getting donations. He has to use the money to ask for more money. I am slightly interested in the equilibrium point, where he can't fool more people, and his income levels out. So far his NPO has taken in more money each year.
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That's kind of my point. If he's spending $300K a year to take in $400K, and a good chunk of his take is from bigtime single donors, then his "organization" is approximately cost-neutral. In effect, he could actually be siphoning money out of the Truth Movement, sequestering it and blowing it all on promotions, when instead it could be going to things like Final Cut licenses and munchies.

If that's the case, then I don't know why we'd oppose AE911T. He seems to be doing a pretty good job of immobilizing the Truth Movement.
 
sheeplesnshills said:
hey whats the office address? I want somewhere to send all my junk mail :)
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The address is on the tax form. I have no hard fact to support that he doesn't live there. It's a few storey building. One can go to google street view to take a look.
 
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ref said:
The address is on the tax form. At least it doesn't seem like a place that somebody would live in, but I have no hard fact to support that. It's a few storey office building. One can go to google street view to take a look.
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It's just a mail drop at the UPS store. Yep, a PO box basically.
 
jaydeehess said:
$80K/year!

I should have got on that gravy train 10 years ago. Then again ten years of not being able to sleep at night would be taxing on one's health.
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Which puts you and me and no doubt many other members in a different class to Gage.

We could not sleep at night if we were as manipulatively dishonest as Gage et al.

We are not poorer for it. "Poor" is not measured solely in $$$$'s without regard to how those $$$$'s are gained. :rolleyes:
 
ref said:
The address is on the tax form. I have no hard fact to support that he doesn't live there. It's a few storey building. One can go to google street view to take a look.
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He is paying $1,500 a month in "Office" rent (you try and do that in the Bay Area in a commercial space and let me know how it goes, that rate is what you pay for a crappy mother-in-law studio) plus $199 ($49.75 per quarter) a year, which sounds like what you might pay for a PO box (or he just might be splitting his cable bill three ways @ 49.75 a quarter for a TV in his home office. The other two thirds might be his bedroom TV and His living room TV).

He also gets the tax benefit of the depreciation of his own home that any business gets for renting out space. It's a common tax loophole that a lot of small businesses that are run out of a home use. He pays enough for an accountant so it's pretty unlikely that he doesn't know about this.
 
Oystein said:
I am more interested in how much the collected in donations, and what their main expences were - both compared to the previous year
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Oy, what's Gage's 990s filings as of late.
A line item historic comparative income-expenses graph would be nice.
 
BasqueArch said:
Oy, what's Gage's 990s filings as of late.
A line item historic comparative income-expenses graph would be nice.
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I think he pays himself at or near the lowest tax bracket to keep money in the organization, not lost to taxes. Then he can pay for trips, stuff. OR, his big donors are in a tax scam - if it was a tax scam you would donate tax free 100k, and avoid paying 30k in taxes - Gage would keep 5 or 10k, the donor gets back 90k, and make 20k avoiding taxes.


2015 85k

place to look up 990s
https://projects.propublica.org/non...OR+911+TRUTH&state[id]=&ntee[id]=&c_code[id]=

ae911 lies and BS 990 2015
https://pp-990.s3.amazonaws.com/201...d2b9111bb4a4c364045767fe252595cd20cbad024b505
 
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beachnut said:
I think he pays himself at or near the lowest tax bracket to keep money in the organization, not lost to taxes. Then he can pay for trips, stuff. OR, his big donors are in a tax scam - if it was a tax scam you would donate tax free 100k, and avoid paying 30k in taxes - Gage would keep 5 or 10k, the donor gets back 90k, and make 20k avoiding taxes.


2015 85k

place to look up 990s
https://projects.propublica.org/non...OR+911+TRUTH&state[id]=&ntee[id]=&c_code[id]=

ae911 lies and BS 990 2015
https://pp-990.s3.amazonaws.com/201...d2b9111bb4a4c364045767fe252595cd20cbad024b505
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I agree that in 2015 he made 85k from Ae911truth as a salary.
Plus any travel, phone and computing expenses
Plus rental of his office - his third bedroom
And I have no doubt that a few donors will give money directly to him that will be gratefully received and not declared in Ae911truth books.

It’s still a good scam.! :jaw-dropp
 
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