Stormy Daniels Sues the President

[blutoski]

Because he limited his answer to the question asked and then deftly pivoted to refer future questions to "my" lawyer.

Good show.

OK, I thought there was something actually clever that I was missing.

We have different definitions of clever, sorry. This is what I refer to as "bafflegab." He could have just said, No Comment, we'd have the same (lack of) information with less bloviating.

 

[acbytesla]

I think it's weird that Kimmel's response is not to defend his own remarks but to point out that others are disrespectful to Melania as well. Whattabout...

I think it's all disrespectful, but Kimmel did it on national TV. Big deal either way, it's his show.

I seriously doubt that Melania or Hannity was upset in the least about Kimmel's remark about her reading.

Hannity had to preface his attacks on Kimmel with calling him liberal. Hannity is fast to be offended when the so called offender happens to be someone who makes effective pleas for things like health care or gun control or God forbid just being a Democrat. I distinctly remember him being apoplectic when Obama wore a tan suit.

 

[The Big Dog]

OK, I thought there was something actually clever that I was missing.

We have different definitions of clever, sorry. This is what I refer to as "bafflegab." He could have just said, No Comment, we'd have the same (lack of) information with less bloviating.

"No. No. What else?"

Yeah those three extra letters! Such bafflegab, much bloviating!

(I am sure we all noted that the actual answer "no. no." is MUCH shorter than "no comment"....)

 

[acbytesla]

If Melania chooses to overlook her husband's past indiscretions, why should anyone else care?

That is a good point. Please go back in time and tell the GOP that in 1994. Out of curiosity, Do you really think she doesn't care?

 

[LTC8K6]

That is a good point. Please go back in time and tell the GOP that in 1994. Out of curiosity, Do you really think she doesn't care?

I think it's none of my business what consensual adult affairs a politician had long prior to being elected.

It's not like this was a low level subordinate while in office, and even then...

The payment could be trouble for Trump, but so far it looks more like it's trouble for Cohen, who may have tried to buy off Clifford on his own? Or something?

 

[Dr. Keith]

who may have tried to buy off Clifford on his own? Or something?

If you really believe anything of the sort, I suggest you contact Cohen immediately with a flimsy tale of that night you and Trump met up in Manhattan. I'm not saying you need $130k, but if all you have to do is claim to have slept with him to get it out of Cohen, then the line starts here.

 

[abaddon]

/protip: I am outlining optimal legal strategies

Evidence required.

TBD is not a lawyer. He has told us so. How he could then outline any legal strategy is odd. That the claim is further made to be a legal scholar in this and other threads is even odder.

based on the facts. It may be that Team Trump is not going to use these optimal legal strategies, which of course does not make me wrong.

And the setup to claim victory when the NDA is invalidated.

And you scored a Bingo with that.

TBD will likely respond to this by accusing me of being a leftist, partisan, dirty democrat and shillary clinton stooge while blithely ignoring the fact that I am not an American, don't live in America, don't vote in American elections and don't much care about Americas partisan baloney.

TBD will respond that if such is the case then it is none of my concern anyway. Except it is. If the US continues of the oafish trump path of self destruction, it will directly affect my living. And that of my kids. And that of everyone I know. It very much is my business.

 

[acbytesla]

I think it's none of my business what consensual adult affairs a politician had long prior to being elected.

Oh really? Do you think Melania consented to Trump screwing around minutes or days after she pushed Barron out?

 

[The Greater Fool]

"Trump delegated the project of shutting up Daniels, to his attorney Cohen."

Yes, that is a fair statement of what I have been endeavoring to explain.

Except that Cohen said he was NOT acting as Trump's attorney, but as a friend, which is why he 'facilitated' the payment from personal funds. Which, of course, is itself a half-truth, as he was complaining about not being reimbursed months later.

 

[LTC8K6]

If you really believe anything of the sort, I suggest you contact Cohen immediately with a flimsy tale of that night you and Trump met up in Manhattan. I'm not saying you need $130k, but if all you have to do is claim to have slept with him to get it out of Cohen, then the line starts here.

The NDA, or whatever it is, seems bizarre to me.

I can't see why Clifford would agree to it, and I can't see why Trump, or his lawyer would agree to it.

I also can't understand why Clifford and her lawyer, who seem to be very sure that the NDA is not valid, don't just go ahead and speak.

Cohen has already claimed Clifford is in violation anyway, right?

And Trump, who certainly can't keep his mouth shut, seems to be able to do so regarding Clifford. Weird.

 

[The Big Dog]

If you really believe anything of the sort, I suggest you contact Cohen immediately with a flimsy tale of that night you and Trump met up in Manhattan. I'm not saying you need $130k, but if all you have to do is claim to have slept with him to get it out of Cohen, then the line starts here.

Given the level of smokeshows that Donald typically dates, I would suggest that the minimum level for doing this should be at least a solid 9.

 

[LTC8K6]

Oh really? Do you think Melania consented to Trump screwing around minutes or days after she pushed Barron out?

I've never been involved in one, but as far as I know, that's not how affairs work.

That would be an open marriage, I think.

 

[Crossbow]

I know we have had our differences, but that is kind of you to say...

'k.

And good luck to you in the legal profession.

After all, since you claim that you are providing an optimal legal strategy to a sitting president, then should earn all of the success in this profession that you deserve.

 

[jimbob]

The NDA, or whatever it is, seems bizarre to me.

I can't see why Clifford would agree to it, and I can't see why Trump, or his lawyer would agree to it.

I also can't understand why Clifford and her lawyer, who seem to be very sure that the NDA is not valid, don't just go ahead and speak.

Cohen has already claimed Clifford is in violation anyway, right?

And Trump, who certainly can't keep his mouth shut, seems to be able to do so regarding Clifford. Weird.

Well Clifford says that she was threatened.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

The NDA, or whatever it is, seems bizarre to me.

I can't see why Clifford would agree to it, and I can't see why Trump, or his lawyer would agree to it.

I also can't understand why Clifford and her lawyer, who seem to be very sure that the NDA is not valid, don't just go ahead and speak.
Cohen has already claimed Clifford is in violation anyway, right?

And Trump, who certainly can't keep his mouth shut, seems to be able to do so regarding Clifford. Weird.

Did you not see/hear about 60 minutes ?

 

[acbytesla]

I've never been involved in one, but as far as I know, that's not how affairs work.

That would be an open marriage, I think.

So, do you think that that trustworthiness and loyalty is a trait we should look for in an employee? Or is that unimportant?

 

[The Big Dog]

The NDA, or whatever it is, seems bizarre to me.

I can't see why Clifford would agree to it, and I can't see why Trump, or his lawyer would agree to it.

I also can't understand why Clifford and her lawyer, who seem to be very sure that the NDA is not valid, don't just go ahead and speak.
Cohen has already claimed Clifford is in violation anyway, right?

And Trump, who certainly can't keep his mouth shut, seems to be able to do so regarding Clifford. Weird.

they do, often

 

[Dr. Keith]

Given the level of smokeshows that Donald typically dates, I would suggest that the minimum level for doing this should be at least a solid 9.

Nah. Another playboy model is what he wants people to know he was doing. No need to cover that up at this point.

It may be worth more in hush money if it were a 22 year old guy?

 

[Dr. Keith]

'k.

And good luck to you in the legal profession.

After all, since you claim that you are providing an optimal legal strategy to a sitting president, then should earn all of the success in this profession that you deserve.

At this point TBD may be offering advice that is comparable to what Trump's legal team is offering. And he is just as as likely to get paid for it.

 

[Crossbow]

Except that Cohen said he was NOT acting as Trump's attorney, but as a friend, which is why he 'facilitated' the payment from personal funds. Which, of course, is itself a half-truth, as he was complaining about not being reimbursed months later.

Well if Trump is going to act to his usual pattern of not paying the people who work for him, then here is what I expect will happen:

Now that Cohen did the sordid work for Trump in paying off Daniels,
then Cohen will get his taste of the Trump boot but Cohen will not get any money from Trump.

Wow!

I would have thought that by October, 2017 it would have been common knowledge that if one is working for Trump, then one should always get paid in advance.