Screw Loose Change and other documentaries

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Hey!

When I was younger I watched the video "screw Loose change" and loved it and I want to watch it again but it seems to have completely vanished from the internet. All I can find is a translated version, so does anyone have it downloaded that I can torrent.

Also are there any other debunking conspiracy videos at the same caliber as screw Loose change?
 
Hello, welcome to the forums.

Your question about Screw Loose Change is answered here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305274

I've got "Screw Loose Change - Not Freaking Again Edition" as a FLV video in my archives. I downloaded it from Google Video when it was announced to be shutting down. It's 480 Mb.

As for debunking other mockumentaries, I'm not aware of any video of similar length. I know of a web page dedicated to debunking 9/11 Mysteries, http://web.archive.org/web/20100914184842/http://www.911mysteriesguide.com:80/ and not specific to any movie, there's http://911myths.com/
 
Thanks for the response, I have seen that thread and the question is not actually answered there. The links just lead me to the normal loose change documentary, can I possibly torrent your download of you somehow? I would be insanely grateful.

Also thanks for the link! I shall check it out
 
There is a video blog here; not sure if it includes SLC.

A similar video was made about 10 years ago called Screw 9-11 Mysteries--Clunkity-Clunk Edition:

 
xanthia94 said:
Hey!

When I was younger I watched the video "screw Loose change" and loved it and I want to watch it again but it seems to have completely vanished from the internet. All I can find is a translated version, so does anyone have it downloaded that I can torrent.

Also are there any other debunking conspiracy videos at the same caliber as screw Loose change?
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Hi.

I think it'd be neat to have a debunking video to counter popular 9/11 Truth claims, but in video format it's difficult to get the point across, especially when truthers make a bunch of false claims in a row, the audience, with their often short attention span, is often tricked into playing their game, if debunking shows any hint of uncertainty, which is the case for any real investigation in solving a problem or answering a question, lots of people will believe the conspiracy theorists "won"
 
Venom said:
Hi.

I think it'd be neat to have a debunking video to counter popular 9/11 Truth claims, but in video format it's difficult to get the point across, especially when truthers make a bunch of false claims in a row, the audience, with their often short attention span, is often tricked into playing their game, if debunking shows any hint of uncertainty, which is the case for any real investigation in solving a problem or answering a question, lots of people will believe the conspiracy theorists "won"
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What questions do you want answered?
 
Venom said:
Hi.

I think it'd be neat to have a debunking video to counter popular 9/11 Truth claims, but in video format it's difficult to get the point across, especially when truthers make a bunch of false claims in a row, the audience, with their often short attention span, is often tricked into playing their game, if debunking shows any hint of uncertainty, which is the case for any real investigation in solving a problem or answering a question, lots of people will believe the conspiracy theorists "won"
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PRoblem: There is no one left to get the point across to. There are no genuine 9/11 Truthers left, only trolls and the unreachables.
 
Mark F said:
PRoblem: There is no one left to get the point across to. There are no genuine 9/11 Truthers left, only trolls and the unreachables.
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Crazy Chainsaw said:
What questions do you want answered?
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My point is the people who believe 9/11 Truth need to meet us halfway and READ the counterarguments, such as the excellent posts in these forums, which is hard in this social media heavy era. They probably won't especially if they only have a passing interest or are too consumed by the venomous populism to seriously weigh their decision.
 
Venom said:
My point is the people who believe 9/11 Truth need to meet us halfway and READ the counterarguments, such as the excellent posts in these forums, which is hard in this social media heavy era. They probably won't especially if they only have a passing interest or are too consumed by the venomous populism to seriously weigh their decision.
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I thought about doing a video once Illustrating the physics collapses and why building 7 did what it did, but I was never really good at yanking a table cloth out from under fine china. It was simply a momentum trick played by the movement frame and curtian wall.
 
Venom said:
My point is the people who believe 9/11 Truth need to meet us halfway and READ the counterarguments, such as the excellent posts in these forums, which is hard in this social media heavy era. They probably won't especially if they only have a passing interest or are too consumed by the venomous populism to seriously weigh their decision.
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It doesn't matter. There are no genuine 9/11 Truthers left - those interested in actual answers and capable of comprehending those answers when presented.

Your intended audience does not exist and 9/11 Truth is now a tiny, insignificant lunatic fringe no one pays attention too anyway.
 
Mark F said:
It doesn't matter. There are no genuine 9/11 Truthers left - those interested in actual answers and capable of comprehending those answers when presented.

Your intended audience does not exist and 9/11 Truth is now a tiny, insignificant lunatic fringe no one pays attention too anyway.
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How can you say it doesn't matter. The very idea is powerful enough to influence large swaths of the uneducated public, who might otherwise trust the govt a little more, AT LEAST not believing there are a bunch of mass murderers roaming there, so we can have a more realistic view of government corruption in the U.S., not a cartoon one.
 
Venom said:
How can you say it doesn't matter. The very idea is powerful enough to influence large swaths of the uneducated public, who might otherwise trust the govt a little more, AT LEAST not believing there are a bunch of mass murderers roaming there, so we can have a more realistic view of government corruption in the U.S., not a cartoon one.
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But does it, in fact, "influence large swaths of the uneducated public"? How would you test this hypothesis?

9/11 Truthers often proclaim that they have "millions" of followers, who are "awake", etc., and they additionally proclaim that their numbers are growing. But I found both claims unsupported by evidence: 9/11 Truth is mostly a thing happening on the internet, but there is nothing out there on the internet that suggests a following by "millions", and many indications that the support base is decaying.

In my opinion, the few tens of thousands of people worldwide who are still interested in 9/11 Truth have long ago organized themselves in a social media bubble. We visit them there. But there is little influence outside of that bubble.

They may have done the damage you describe 10 years ago, when Loose Change was all the rage, but then again, the way the Bush administration abused the outrage over the attacks to push through a crazy neocon foreign agenda and unwinnable wars probably did far more damage to the same populace.
 
Venom said:
How can you say it doesn't matter. The very idea is powerful enough to influence large swaths of the uneducated public, who might otherwise trust the govt a little more, AT LEAST not believing there are a bunch of mass murderers roaming there, so we can have a more realistic view of government corruption in the U.S., not a cartoon one.
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How can I say it doesn't matter? Like this:

Mark F said:
It doesn't matter. There are no genuine 9/11 Truthers left - those interested in actual answers and capable of comprehending those answers when presented.
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You left out the important bit. That's the sort of thing a 9/11 Truther would do. Sorry, it just is.
 
Mark F said:
How can I say it doesn't matter? Like this:

You left out the important bit. That's the sort of thing a 9/11 Truther would do. Sorry, it just is.
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Not everyone knows the answers to the truther question though. They don't know that Jones, Gage, Harrit, Szamboti, etc. who had the best chance of formulating an argument against NIST have failed.

It'd be nice to have either in video or preferably written (truthers often don't read) a handy guide to questions truthers often ask and why 9/11 Truth leaders failed to challenge NIST. Just the gist, and maybe add some references for a more thorough explanation.
 
Venom said:
Not everyone knows the answers to the truther question though. They don't know that Jones, Gage, Harrit, Szamboti, etc. who had the best chance of formulating an argument against NIST have failed.
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But then again, who even remembers the questions? More now than ever, when you turn off your computer, the 9/11 truth movement vanishes. It's been reduced to a small hard core of internet kooks, and has no real world presence left.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
But then again, who even remembers the questions? More now than ever, when you turn off your computer, the 9/11 truth movement vanishes. It's been reduced to a small hard core of internet kooks, and has no real world presence left.

Dave
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I have meet only three truthers in the past year, all Alt Right All Trump supporting Republicans. It is now just a political non intelectual thing.
 
Venom said:
Not everyone knows the answers to the truther question though. They don't know that Jones, Gage, Harrit, Szamboti, etc. who had the best chance of formulating an argument against NIST have failed.

It'd be nice to have either in video or preferably written (truthers often don't read) a handy guide to questions truthers often ask and why 9/11 Truth leaders failed to challenge NIST. Just the gist, and maybe add some references for a more thorough explanation.
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This happened in 2007-2009. Many of the sites have been dormant due to lack of interest. Try typing the question in the search engine box at http://www.debunking911.com/ and it will probably be answered.
 
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