TAM in Europe?

I would suggest Canada, in the Rocky Mountains (Burgess Shale and Drumheller would be neat places to visit as well, both within a few hours of somewhere like Banff), but maybe (probably!) I'm prejudiced because that's where I live. It would be good for Americans (distance wise), and better for some Europeans, due to the exchange rate, and there are tons of things to do every season.

Otherwise, I would agree with Copenhagen or Frankfurt.
 
Personally, if i am going to spend money i don't have for something that is, essentially, frivolous, i want to go somewhere interesting. also warm, but i'll settle for interesting.

that means: Not Vegas.
what's a credit card for but charging a vacation to europe?
 
Chaos said:
Around the end of TAM2, there where several discussions of holding an Amazing Meeting outside America - specifically, in Europe.

It would, of course, have the benefit of allowing more of our European members to attend, while having the drawback of making it more difficult (and expensive) for Americans.

I have already (perhaps ad nauseam) proposed Frankfurt as a site, but there are also other cities that came up in the discussions, and a few more that I thought of later:

- Berlin
- London
- Paris
- Amsterdam
- Kopenhagen
- Rome
- Prague
- Stockholm
- Barcelona
- any other ideas?

I have been to some of these cities before, and they all have some appeal as TAM sites:

- They are not too expensive (with the exception of London and perhaps Paris)
- They have enough tourism to offer good services to tourists
- They offer enough things to see outside the Meeting (especially Rome - you can spend a year there and still not see everything)
- You can get along well enough without speaking any language except English
- Other advantages I didn´t think of ;)

For that reason, I have started this poll just to get a feeling for the interest in TAM attendance. If any of you have ideas, feel free to tell me.

Edited to add:
Everybody who lives closer to America than to Europe (Far East, Australia) please use the "America" options.
Everybody who lives closer to Europe than to America (Africa, Middle East) please use the "Europe" options.
Shemp, please use the Planet X option.
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These discussions, did they have any input from the JREF? If not, how would a EuroTAM (sans JREF) differ from the other EuroSkep meet-ups (1, 2, 3)?
 
About the poll, where is the option for "All of the Above"?

(Except for the "processed foods" bit.)

EDIT: Apprently, the poll and the topic does not match?
 
DarkMythril said:
About the poll, where is the option for "All of the Above"?

(Except for the "processed foods" bit.)

EDIT: Apprently, the poll and the topic does not match?
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Yeah it's a bug just enjoy any inadvertent human and hope it gets fixed as soon as posible.
 
Re topic: I'd LOVE to attend both places! But hey! I LIKE to travel!
 
I voted that Americans are fat because "People don't exercise enough", and I end up in a thread about TAM in Europe. Coincidence?
 
I would love a TAM or TAM-type meeting in Europe. Even though I live in London, I would actually suggest Amsterdam or elsewhere in Holland, for the following reasons:
It is cheaper than the UK
Everyone speaks perfect English
There is an excellent network of roads and railway, especially links with Schiphol (Amsterdam) airport, with excellent and cheap European and worldwide connections
Easy trips to Paris, Brussels and London
...and of course there are the delights of Amsterdam, lovely restaurants (mmmm, Indonesian cuisine) etc.
 
I'd love a TAM in Paris, France. Just because I'm a french-speaking person and I like Paris...

Maybe also because skepticism and James Randy are not that well-known in France...
 
JMA said:
I'd love a TAM in Paris, France. Just because I'm a french-speaking person and I like Paris...

Maybe also because skepticism and James Randy are not that well-known in France...
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I´d love a TAM in Frankfurt, Germany. Just because I´m a German-speaking person and I like Frankfurt...

Maybe also because skepticism and James Randi are not that well-known in Germany...

:)

Okay, the fact that I live a 30 minute train ride from Frankfurt might be playing into this, like the fact that it takes me 40 hours and $850 to go to Vegas and back again.

But London would be fine, too. Paris may be an interesting city, but I don´t speak a word of French, and I´m just not comfortable in countries where I can´t even read the street signs.
 
Chaos said:
I´d love a TAM in Frankfurt, Germany. Just because I´m a German-speaking person and I like Frankfurt...

Maybe also because skepticism and James Randi are not that well-known in Germany...

:)

Okay, the fact that I live a 30 minute train ride from Frankfurt might be playing into this, like the fact that it takes me 40 hours and $850 to go to Vegas and back again.
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You got Wikimania so have succeded your quota of geek tourists for most of the rest of this century

But London would be fine, too. Paris may be an interesting city, but I don´t speak a word of French, and I´m just not comfortable in countries where I can´t even read the street signs.
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London is pricy pretty much any other UK city would be better in that regard.
 
How about the NEC in Birmingham in the UK? Lots of access roads and cheap to stay.....





I'll get me coat....

(scurrues away)
 
Chaos said:
like the fact that it takes me 40 hours and $850 to go to Vegas and back again.
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No, it doesn't. You can fly from Frankfurt to Vegas for $400. OK, it takes 17 hours to get to Vegas and 14 to get back, but still...
 
andycal said:
How about the NEC in Birmingham in the UK? Lots of access roads and cheap to stay.....
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For a while I thought you were talking about the ICC and couldn't understand why you'd say it was cheap to stay. :D

NEC is probably a very good venue. Close to the airport as well. A bit outside town though, which is both good and bad. But having said that, if you catch a decent bus it'll only take you 20-25 minutes into town (iirc). Now, dunno why anyone would want to go to Birmingham though...
 
CFLarsen said:
No, it doesn't. You can fly from Frankfurt to Vegas for $400. OK, it takes 17 hours to get to Vegas and 14 to get back, but still...
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How? Which airline, which route? I´m curious. I couldn´t find anything better than 600-odd Euros and about 20 hours each way, including layovers. (24 if I measure travel time "home to Stardust" instead of "take-off Frankfurt to landing Las Vegas")
 
I think a European TAM is a great idea - in addition to Vegas - but there again I do live in Germany.

Prague isn't too far away for me, and I'd love to visit it - and TAM would be a huge bonus

YBW
 
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