bknight
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It looks to me like several of the secret service guys are tuning their heads towards the TSBD after another shot, the one that hit JFK and JBC.
So what is your interpretation?
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It looks to me like several of the secret service guys are tuning their heads towards the TSBD after another shot, the one that hit JFK and JBC.
So what is your interpretation?
RoboTimbo
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Impossible shot for anyone? Or just Oswald?
How many entrance and exit wounds were there in the skull according to the autopsy you've been citing?
abaddon
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It's a photo of the cavalcade. What of it? You seem to think it shows something. What do you think it shows?
Axxman300
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The first shot has already been fired.
Based on the location of the lead vehicle the second shot is about to be fired.
Note there is NOBODY at the picket fence.
So what? Phil Willis might be mistaken in his recollection.
The lapel flap makes literally no sense at all if it isn't caused by a gunshot. Don't give me a "gust of wind" or some other nonsense. The lapel flap is visual evidence showing when the single bullet struck Connally.
smartcooky
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That must be fractionally before or at the firing of the second shot. You can see Abraham Zapruder standing on the pedestal (right above the leftmost SS agent's head). JFK was already clutching his throat when he appeared (on Zapruder's film) from behind the Stemmings Sign.
Its reasonably clear that the SS agents are reacting to something... most likely the first shot, since human reaction time means they cannot have been reacting to the second shot.
Yes there is.... an invisible second shooter, shooting an invisible gun, with an invisible suppressor, firing invisible bullets that didn't hit anything or anyone.
Axxman300
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You left out "Dogman", the black shape at the top of the knoll stairs, who vanished after the shooting leaving an empty Pepsi bottle.
My guess? Richard Nixon.
My guess? Richard Nixon.
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I do concede that the lapel flap was from the shot that hit Connally. The Willis 5 photograph was taken a moment before the lapel flap. Multiple shooters.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
FTFY
The bullet that struck Connally must have passed through JFK
We KNOW that the second shot hit JFK in the back
We KNOW that the wound in JFK's throat is an exit wound
So if the bullet didn't hit Connally, where did it go? Vanished into thin air?
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RoboTimbo
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Non-sequitur much?
bknight
Master Poster
No evidence in this image for multiple shooters, no forensic evaluation for multiple shooters, in fact there was but one shooter, LHO, from the 6th floor of the TSBD. Three shoots one miss two hits.
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
And there is the thing. CTs plop various so called evidence that isn't. The supposed grassy heap or fence shooter is conspicuously missing from the photo. MJ must therefore be claiming a second shooter from someplace else not in frame. Having eliminated the grassy fencey crapola, one must ask where was this extra shooter or two in MJs scenario?
Axxman300
Philosopher
This is after the first shot was fired.
The look on Connally's face says it all, and the two Secret Service guys in the front seat are looking hard to the left.
Plus, this gives the definitive look at JFK's bunched up jacket, and his physical placement behind the governor.
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smartcooky
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Axxman, are you sure you posted the right photo? The two guys in the front are the driver (an SS Agent?), with an SS Agent in the passenger seat
The driver appears to he looking straight head, while the SS agent in the passenger seat appears to be looking right (away from the camera) which is what I would expect as the shot came from over his right shoulder.
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Willis could be mistaken.
HSienzant
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No, you're not thinking like a conspiracy theorist.
Anything that suggests conspiracy must be true.
Anything that doesn't must be false.
It's really that simple.
What Willis said suggests an earlier shot about one second before the one that hit JFK. Since Oswald couldn't fire this one suggested by Willis and the one that hit JFK, that means conspiracy. So that means Willis' recollection can't be wrong.
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SpitfireIX
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Axxman300
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Looks like the driver is checking the rearview mirror to see what the guys in the chase care are doing. This was taken almost the same time are the Willis picture. I'd never seen this one before, the other thing that stands out is the clarity of the background. A gunman would have stood out like a lighthouse.
If you look at all of Willis's photos you also see the Grassy Knoll in the seconds after the motorcade have gone, and there is a clear LACK OF SMOKE HANGING IN THE TREES.
bknight
Master Poster
This could and should be a teaching moment for MJ, and this is directed at you.
We know from the Zapruder film that the coat of JBC popped forward AFTER appearing from behind the Roadway sign. Notice in your image that the President's limo is before the sign, from Zapruder's perspective. And at the slow speed it will take at least 2-3 second before it will be past the sign.
Any logical person can deduce that
A. The Zapruder film is wrong
B. Willis is wrong
What is your best guess at the question, MJ?
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MicahJava
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If you want to forfeit the evidence provided by Phillip Willis, I'll gladly take it. I know it's witness testimony, but it's strong witness testimony. Snapping a photograph as a reaction to a loud gunshot is the kind of thing that would leave a distinct impression on a witness.
Willis is dead. There's no more evidence to get out of him. No chance for a last-second change of the story. Sorry.
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