The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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blutoski said:
And Putin opens a round of champagne.

[x] Crater USA reputation with Joke President
[x] Sic Americans at each others' throats through online sock puppets and staged protests
[x] Weaken Western Economy with trade wars
[ ] Drag USA into land war in Asia
[ ] Annex Alaska
[ ] Marry Beyonce (she's so dreeeeamy!)
[ ] Drink Unicorn blood (note... google: do unicorns actually have blood?)
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Cut a unicorn and it bleeds rainbows.

And yes, I can barely imagine Putin doing more for Russia's interests if he was the President of the USA instead of the Trump.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Georgia lawmakers have passed a bill which punishes Delta Airlines, seemingly in retribution for cutting ties with the NRA
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Not sure what "seemingly" is supposed to mean. They were pretty straight up about the whole thing.

The Lt. Governor said he was going to make it happen if Delta didn't back down. Delta didn't back down. The Georgia legislature passed the budget with the tax break removed, all the while saying they were punishing Delta.

They didn't make any bones about any of it. The extortion threat didn't work, so they carried out the threat.
 
quadraginta said:
Not sure what "seemingly" is supposed to mean. They were pretty straight up about the whole thing.

The Lt. Governor said he was going to make it happen if Delta didn't back down. Delta didn't back down. The Georgia legislature passed the budget with the tax break removed, all the while saying they were punishing Delta.

They didn't make any bones about any of it. The extortion threat didn't work, so they carried out the threat.
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Is it legal? I'm trying to see how they can't just do the same for companies that don't support the GOP.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The NRA claim Trump no longer supports gun control, after White House meeting
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Anyone who questions the preeminence of the NRA as a mover and shaker in GOP politics needs to think about this.

How many other membership groups with "lobbying efforts", or even full-time lobbying businesses, for that matter, could get a face-to-face meeting with the POTUS, in the Oval Room, in private, within around twenty four hours of the time he said something they didn't like.

Even the most senior GOP leaders in the House and Senate can't manage that. Hell, they're lucky to be able to talk to him at all, even when he's the one who wants something from them. If they are objecting to something he did or said then he won't even acknowledge they exist.

Unless it's to call them schoolyard names in an early morning tweet, of course.
 
rwguinn said:
While in Georgia https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/01/business/delta-nra-georgia.html
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From the article:
Democrats have argued that the attack on Delta, which did not comment Thursday, could harm the ability to attract new businesses, chief among them Amazon. The online retailer named metropolitan Atlanta as one possible location for its new headquarters.

“Unfortunately, we’re looking at political gamesmanship, and trying to send ultraconservative messages for the Republican primary,” said Senator Steve Henson, the minority leader. “I think it does not enhance our chances to get Amazon.”
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I wonder what sort of legislative tantrum they'll throw when Amazon tells 'em they got bumped off the short list because Amazon doesn't want to invest a pile of money in a state with a track record of threatening its most profitable businesses and punishing them if they don't toe the conservative GOP ideological line.
 
Segnosaur said:
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By the way, Ross claims that the tariffs will add "one half of 1%" to the cost of a new $35,000 car. That's an extra $175 in cost. If you're earning $40,000 and decide to buy a new car, the increase in the car price is roughly half of the tax deduction you would have received.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/n...mer-price-impact-of-trumps-tariffs-2018-03-02
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That's for the peons in the bottom 80%. Ross probably spends that much on lunch without a second thought.

These people are totally unconnected with anything resembling real life for most of the country.
 
I liked this little song on this week's edition of the Now Show on Radio 4. I'll let you work out the tune it's set to for yourselves.

When kids fire off guns and not one thing gets done that's NRA
When the shooter's deranged but not one law is changed that's NRA
Thousands annually killed but they can't pass a bill that's NRA
And at least once a year we thank God we live here in the UK
 
jimbob said:
Is it legal? I'm trying to see how they can't just do the same for companies that don't support the GOP.
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It's legal because what they did was not include a planned tax exemption for jet fuel in their budget. So it affects every one who buys jet fuel equally.

Delta is the biggest player at the Atlanta International Airport, the busiest airport in the world. Delta uses ATL as its primary hub, the largest airline hub in the world.

So, although everyone is being treated equally in the sense that they will all now be paying the fuel tax which was planned to be exempted, Delta is the one that, by orders of magnitude in comparison, will be feeling the hit the worst.

However, they did come right out and say that they were doing it to hurt Delta as punishment for not giving the NRA special treatment.

I'm not sure if a lawsuit can be built around that, though, especially since nothing any GOP politician says now seems to actually commit them to anything or make them responsible for anything.

They lie with complete and utter impunity, and then lie about their lies with equal impunity.

If a GOP politician were to say that sunrise was in the east I'd want to check it for myself.
 
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quadraginta said:
Anyone who questions the preeminence of the NRA as a mover and shaker in GOP politics needs to think about this.

How many other membership groups with "lobbying efforts", or even full-time lobbying businesses, for that matter, could get a face-to-face meeting with the POTUS, in the Oval Room, in private, within around twenty four hours of the time he said something they didn't like.

Even the most senior GOP leaders in the House and Senate can't manage that. Hell, they're lucky to be able to talk to him at all, even when he's the one who wants something from them. If they are objecting to something he did or said then he won't even acknowledge they exist.

Unless it's to call them schoolyard names in an early morning tweet, of course.
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The NRA could be the one group that could turn off attendance at his rallies. I suspect the failed genetic experiments that show up to those things are either members or highly supportive of the NRA.
 
quadraginta said:
Not sure what "seemingly" is supposed to mean. They were pretty straight up about the whole thing.

The Lt. Governor said he was going to make it happen if Delta didn't back down. Delta didn't back down. The Georgia legislature passed the budget with the tax break removed, all the while saying they were punishing Delta.

They didn't make any bones about any of it. The extortion threat didn't work, so they carried out the threat.
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What I wonder about is how can the Republicans spin this while also claiming to be a 'small government' party?
Having the government interfere in a dispute between a company and a non-governmental organisation to me seems to be the total opposite. It's more a communist thing really.
 
Pixel42 said:
I liked this little song on this week's edition of the Now Show on Radio 4. I'll let you work out the tune it's set to for yourselves.

When kids fire off guns and not one thing gets done that's NRA
When the shooter's deranged but not one law is changed that's NRA
Thousands annually killed but they can't pass a bill that's NRA
And at least once a year we thank God we live here in the UK
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"When you swim in the creek
And an eel bites your feet
That's a Moray"

? :)
 
The whole Georgia vs. Delta thing was covered briefly on Opening Arguments.

The benefit Delta was providing was vanishingly small - it was not a general discount for NRA members, it was a break on ticket prices for those flying to the NRA convention. It was compared with calling a hotel and getting the group rate if you were a member of a group attending a function.

I think they said that less than 100 flyers had gotten the discount rate - I forget the exact number.

Edited to add: Google came up with 13 discounts given.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
The whole Georgia vs. Delta thing was covered briefly on Opening Arguments.

The benefit Delta was providing was vanishingly small - it was not a general discount for NRA members, it was a break on ticket prices for those flying to the NRA convention. It was compared with calling a hotel and getting the group rate if you were a member of a group attending a function.

I think they said that less than 100 flyers had gotten the discount rate - I forget the exact number.

Edited to add: Google came up with 13 discounts given.
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18, I think.

And yet, the Georgia legislature voted to penalize Delta for eliminating it.

Yes, it was a trivial little thing, and what Delta did was mostly symbolic. But that symbolism was unacceptable to the Georga GOP.

What a bunch of snowflakes.
 
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