Brexit: Now What? Part IV

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The Speech - vacuous drivel.

Oh well. Let's just see what happens, eh?
 
Has the Brit PM any response about the imminent trade war with US because of Trump's idiotic Tariffs?
 
Giz said:
So Northern Ireland, with 3% of the UK population, should determine the political future for the other 97%?

Is the expressed will of the people to be cravenly surrendered due to threats of violence?
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You guys wanted to keep that part of the island back in 1922, so you have a responsibility for it. Or you can tell them to take a hike and become part of the Republic. Would you personally be willing to tell Arlene Foster that? And which would first be gone, confidence or supply? :rolleyes:
 
ddt said:
You guys wanted to keep that part of the island back in 1922, so you have a responsibility for it. Or you can tell them to take a hike and become part of the Republic. Would you personally be willing to tell Arlene Foster that? And which would first be gone, confidence or supply? :rolleyes:
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The real irony is that the Irish Members hold the balance of power in Parliament again.
SHades of Parnell in the 19th century...
 
Darat said:
And of course a "pint" as a quantity for selling was never banned, all that would have happened is that instead of being labeled just as "1 pint" it would be labeled as "0.57 litre" - just like out milk is.

It's incredible that they are still using this type of blatant lying.
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Not a lie this time...

Sparkling wine
On the interval from 125 ml to 1 500 ml only the following 5 nominal quantities:
ml: 125 — 200 — 375 — 750 — 1 500
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http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2007:247:0017:0020:en:PDF
 
The official name of her party is the Conservative and Unionist Party. The clue is in the name.
 
ceptimus said:
The official name of her party is the Conservative and Unionist Party. The clue is in the name.
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Then maybe she should take more care of the Union instead of pandering to the DUP, who by no means speak for all of Northern Ireland or indeed all of the Unionists in NI.
 
dudalb said:
The real irony is that the Irish Members hold the balance of power in Parliament again.
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That's what I was obliquely referring to. There are other minor parties that could have given Theresa May a working majority, but she chose the DUP. Of course they were easiest to bribe.

dudalb said:
SHades of Parnell in the 19th century...
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Except that Parnell's Irish Parliamentary Party were no terrorist huggers, and they held a far larger share of the seats than the DUP now.
 
Strawberry said:
Then maybe she should take more care of the Union instead of pandering to the DUP, who by no means speak for all of Northern Ireland or indeed all of the Unionists in NI.
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In the Commons, they largely are; the only other sitting NI MP is Sylvia Hermon (independent, formerly UUP).

Of course, it's irresponsible with the peace process still going on, that the Westminster government relies on one of the NI factions for its majority, as it must be able to act as a honest broker. It's even more irresponsible to do so at a moment there's a months-long ongoing government crisis in Stormont. It's recklessly irresponsible to do so when the Irish border is one of the central questions in the Brexit negotiations.
 
ddt said:
You guys wanted to keep that part of the island back in 1922, so you have a responsibility for it. Or you can tell them to take a hike and become part of the Republic. Would you personally be willing to tell Arlene Foster that? And which would first be gone, confidence or supply? :rolleyes:
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If it was up to me, they could have it with a nice bow and and some milk and bread thrown in as a welcome present.

The problem has always been that a chunk of the population of NI is rather violently opposed to unification so I don't think RoI is overly keen on being responsible for overseeing the resulting bloodshed.

Don't forget that the Loyalists were buying weapons from the Germans to fight the British Army just before WWI due to the threat of home rule for Ireland.
 
Farage Tweets

"May was always going to take the side of the EU against America."

So, Farage taking the side of the USA over the UK?
 
So it is. I got to it from a Twitter link and it went right in to the article.
I can't see it myself now.

It's to do with the EU having an 'Open Skies' agreement but the UK won't.
 
UK-US Open Skies talks hit Brexit turbulence said:
The talks were cut short after US negotiators offered only a standard bilateral agreement. These typically require airlines to be majority owned and controlled by parties from their country of origin.

Such limits would be problematic for British carriers as they have large foreign shareholdings. Under existing arrangements, UK-based airlines are covered by the “Open Skies” treaty that requires them to be majority EU owned.
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The biggest sticking-point is a standard ownership clause in Washington’s bilateral aviation agreements that would exclude airlines from the deal if “substantial ownership and effective control” does not rest with US or UK nationals respectively. In effect it requires majority ownership by one of the two sides if an airline is to benefit.

London asked the US to adjust its long-held policy since it would exclude the three main British-based transatlantic carriers, which all fall short of the eligibility criteria. These are IAG, the owner of British Airways and Iberia; Virgin Atlantic; and Norwegian UK.
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The challenge is most acute for Willie Walsh, IAG chief executive, whose group must also clear the EU’s 50 per cent ownership threshold to avoid losing his European operating rights after Brexit, when UK nationals are no longer counted.
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Some key points from the FT article.
 
For some reason searching and accessing the article through google worked for me.

I wonder if the US is holding out for access to the British Virgin Islands and the Caymans?
 
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