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Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VI: Lyndon Johnson's Revenge

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What questions? Please be specific. In fact, I'd rather you rephrase them yourself instead of linking to posts written by others?

Asked and answered. Why does anyone have to rephrase the posts you ignored the first time, and why should they bother, given you ignored the posts the first time? What assurance do they have that you answer questions or respond to points the second time they are asked, and then only if it's rephrased by a different poster?

For long-time readers of this thread and its predecessor threads, I'm getting serious Robert Prey "One question at a time, one point per post" vibrations here.


If you can comprehend this material, you should be able to argue the evidence yourself without relying on others. If an argument is legitimately compelling, it can be rephrased in a million ways.

And thus you expose your argument here as nonsense. If it can be rephrased a million ways, what's wrong with you responding to the original post, instead of demanding a rephrased post?

Just a small sampling of the posts by me alone you ignored completely, failing to even acknowledge their existence:

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There are plenty of others by me you ignored completely. And a greater number by all the other posters combined.

Asking someone to rephrase those posts is nonsense, MicahJava, and everyone here knows that. Just respond to the points made when they are made, instead of ignoring them and asking a different poster to rephrase them later.

Hank
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1 This one deserves special attention, because within it, I point out SEVEN different posts of mine prior to that one that you also ignored from earlier in this thread. Why does someone need to rephrase those SEVEN posts, when you ignored them the first time they were posted, and then ignored a second, follow-up post pointing out you ignored them?
 
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Yearly reminder: Gerald Posner literally lied through his teeth about the EOP/cowlick controversy to make a name for himself in the research community.

Dr. Gary Aguilar's sworn statement:

Under Item Number 7, there were some recent revelations, and for this I have brought copies to give to you. I have three copies for you, and I could make more if they are needed, but three copies I will pass to you. As I mentioned, JFK's pathologist James Humes, J. Thornton Boswell described the entrance to the President's skull wound as being to the right and just above the external occipital protuberance in the original autopsy report. They repeated that assertion in an interview published in the Journal of the American Medical Association on May 27th, 1992.

On November 17th, 1993, author Gerald Posner, the author of the book Case Closed reported to the Congress Committee that he had interviewed both Dr. Humes and Dr. Boswell at apparently the same time they were interviewed by the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1992. Mr. Posner reported that Drs. Humes and Boswell told him that JFK's skull wound was not low and near the rear, near the external occipital protuberance, but rather it was high in the President's skull.

Mr. Posner indicated during his testimony to the Representative of Congress that he would ask Dr. Humes and Boswell for permission to release information on his interviews with them, but he has not done so to my knowledge.

On March 30th of this year, I, myself, called both Drs. Humes and Boswell to inquire about Mr. Posner's report of their surprising turnabout on this important question. Dr. Humes indicated to me that he stood firmly by his statements in JAMA. Dr. Boswell also told me that he had never changed his mind about the low location of JFK's skull wound and, moreover, Dr. Boswell told me that had never spoken with Mr. Posner. I have a recording of this and I would be happy to leave it with you, if you would like. As I spoke with both pathologists four-and-a-half months after Mr. Posner's claim, I am baffled at this discrepancy.


https://web.archive.org/web/20180302061907/http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arrb/index74.htm

Wow. How desperate can you get?

Again, so what? This is an acknowledged conspiracy theorist making claims he spoke to Dr. Humes and Dr. Boswell, and they made certain contradictory claims contrary to what they told Posner.

That doesn't mean Posner lied. You have person A claiming Persons C and D said this to them. You have person B claiming Persons C and D said something else. How does that establish Person A lied? Maybe Persons C & lied, maybe Person B is lying. Or maybe the whole thing is just a misunderstanding.

You really haven't established anything here, except CTs will attack a person's character and claim they are lying to attempt to discredit their arguments. Of course, CTs also assert that any evidence contrary to their beliefs must be faked or altered or planted or swapped. They also claim other CTs that disagree with them are shills paid by the government to spread disinformation, so welcome to the CT world - where everyone's part of the conspiracy or subsequent cover-up except Lee Harvey Oswald and the particular CT making the allegation.

Wow.

I'm not impressed with that gestalt.

Hank
 
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What questions? Please be specific. In fact, I'd rather you rephrase them yourself instead of linking to posts written by others? If you can comprehend this material, you should be able to argue the evidence yourself without relying on others. If an argument is legitimately compelling, it can be rephrased in a million ways.

Here are some questions you keep scampering away from answering: Was it an impossible shot for anyone? Or just Oswald?

If it was an impossible shot, why do you sometimes seem to argue for more than one shot to the head?

Which side of your mouth can you answer from?

MicahJava, to satisfy your newest requirement that other posters rephrase the original question you ignored, let me point it out a little differently:

Why do you argue for two shots to the head when you also argue that hitting JFK from the closest building would be very difficult to do even once?

If this was an extremely difficult shot to make even once using the iron sights at 88 yards, does that apply exclusively to an ex-marine trained to hit targets 500 yards away using iron sights, or does that apply to anyone?

Can you respond to these questions without contradicting yourself and your previous arguments?

Now that a different poster has rephrased the points raised, will you deign to answer the points in either post, or will you simply ignore the original post and the rephrased one, thereby exposing your demand that the original questions be rephrased as so much nonsense, and simply a method you've adopted to avoid responding to those points you can't answer?

Hank
 
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Your pretense that the 60-foot elevation of the shooter shooting at a slow-moving target moving downhill and almost directly away from the shooter makes a significant difference is just that, pretense.

Your original argument was that Oswald couldn't hit JFK in the head at 88 yards with the iron sights because "the people look like ants" from the sixth floor was destroyed because Oswald practiced by shooting at targets 500 yards distant in the Marines.

So like a dutiful little CT, you employ the logical fallacy of moving the goalposts. With your original complaint demolished, you now pivot and bring up a different complaint about the shooting that you haven't establish has any more legitimacy.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/129/Moving_the_Goalposts

Moving the Goalposts
(also known as: gravity game, raising the bar, argument by demanding impossible perfection [form of])
Description: Demanding from an opponent that he or she address more and more points after the initial counter-argument has been satisfied.


Please quote the expert testimony that elevation matters and is somehow a hindrance to accurate shooting. Please quote the expert testimony that hitting a target moving almost directly away from 88 yards is substantially more difficult that hitting a stationary one at more than five times the distance (500 yards).

We'll await your attempt to establish your complaint here is a legitimate one. You never will. You simply read it in a conspiracy book / website somewhere and assumed it was true. So you repeat it here as if it were meaningful. It has no more meaning than your "the people look like ants" complaint.

Hank

No, it's not moving the goalposts. It's having a grasp of what you are talking about. Firing at a stationary level target isn't the single-assassin theory. Your lack of comprehension of my comment does not constitute "moving the goalposts". In real life, a certain Oswald had a Russian buddy who said he was so awful as shooting that after a hunting session he gave him a rabbit to take home.
 
No, it's not moving the goalposts. It's having a grasp of what you are talking about. Firing at a stationary level target isn't the single-assassin theory. Your lack of comprehension of my comment does not constitute "moving the goalposts". In real life, a certain Oswald had a Russian buddy who said he was so awful as shooting that after a hunting session he gave him a rabbit to take home.

So your claim is that none of Oswald's shots hit JFK?
 
Your pretense that the 60-foot elevation of the shooter shooting at a slow-moving target moving downhill and almost directly away from the shooter makes a significant difference is just that, pretense.

Your original argument was that Oswald couldn't hit JFK in the head at 88 yards with the iron sights because "the people look like ants" from the sixth floor was destroyed because Oswald practiced by shooting at targets 500 yards distant in the Marines.

So like a dutiful little CT, you employ the logical fallacy of moving the goalposts. With your original complaint demolished, you now pivot and bring up a different complaint about the shooting that you haven't establish has any more legitimacy.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/129/Moving_the_Goalposts

Moving the Goalposts
(also known as: gravity game, raising the bar, argument by demanding impossible perfection [form of])
Description: Demanding from an opponent that he or she address more and more points after the initial counter-argument has been satisfied.


Please quote the expert testimony that elevation matters and is somehow a hindrance to accurate shooting. Please quote the expert testimony that hitting a target moving almost directly away from 88 yards is substantially more difficult that hitting a stationary one at more than five times the distance (500 yards).

We'll await your attempt to establish your complaint here is a legitimate one. You never will.
You simply read it in a conspiracy book / website somewhere and assumed it was true. So you repeat it here as if it were meaningful. It has no more meaning than your "the people look like ants" complaint.

No, it's not moving the goalposts. It's having a grasp of what you are talking about.

Do you? Are you arguing the points I made, or other ones I didn't?


Firing at a stationary level target isn't the single-assassin theory.

Straw man logical fallacy. I never said it was.


Your lack of comprehension of my comment does not constitute "moving the goalposts".

I responded directly to the points you made. Your pretense to the contrary isn't a meaningful response. Neither is your pretense that I don't understand your argument. I understood your argument and I pointed out what was wrong with it.

My prediction above [bolded] has already born fruit. You aren't even trying to establish your claims are true. When do you intend to start?

Here they are again:
Please quote the expert testimony that elevation matters and is somehow a hindrance to accurate shooting. Please quote the expert testimony that hitting a target moving almost directly away from 88 yards is substantially more difficult that hitting a stationary one at more than five times the distance (500 yards).

We'll await your attempt to establish your complaint here is a legitimate one. You never will.



In real life, a certain Oswald had a Russian buddy who said he was so awful as shooting that after a hunting session he gave him a rabbit to take home.

And this was with a rifle? And we know this is an accurate recollection / assertion because?

It wasn't and we don't. It's merely your pretense that this particular recollection (made how many years or decades after the assassination?) is correct and meaningful. Hey, it's not like we don't know that people try to inflate their own importance and interject themselves into major stories where they don't belong. This guy you cite is essentially saying he's a better shot than a Presidential assassin, and you find that as meaningful rebuttal.

It's not. You're simply desperate to somehow remove Oswald from the equation at this point. Does your argument apply to all ex-Marines who trained by shooting at targets 500-yards away, or Just a Certain Mr. Oswald?

If it only applies to Oswald, why? If it applies to everyone, then you're arguing the assassination could not have happened at all, and JFK must have faked his death.

I already pointed out I could make shots at 100 yards using a weapon four times older than Oswald's, and I'm not pretending I'm a better shot than an ex-Marine who trained by shooting at targets 500 yards away.

Hank
 
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No, it's not moving the goalposts. It's having a grasp of what you are talking about. Firing at a stationary level target isn't the single-assassin theory. Your lack of comprehension of my comment does not constitute "moving the goalposts". In real life, a certain Oswald had a Russian buddy who said he was so awful as shooting that after a hunting session he gave him a rabbit to take home.

Marine Corps marksmanship experts reviewed Oswald's shooting history in the Marines and the assassination scenario. They testified that the shooting was easy, well within the range of Oswald's skillset and with the equipment he had to use.
 
Marine Corps marksmanship experts reviewed Oswald's shooting history in the Marines and the assassination scenario. They testified that the shooting was easy, well within the range of Oswald's skillset and with the equipment he had to use.

Absolutely. And further, MicahJava knows all this, because I pointed all this out to him in July of 2017, even quoting the pertinent testimony. True to form, he ignored the points I made entirely.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11916964&postcount=887

Originally Posted by MicahJava
I mean, it's a moving target and his head would be appear to be about less than the diameter of the front sight. If you say the single assassin was aiming for his head and not just his center of mass, then yeah that sounds pretty unlikely.
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What if there were multiple assassins? Why is a single assassin singled out in this way by you?

Which of the "other assassins" was known to have a rifle with a appropriately sighted scope? Or even a rifle with just iron sights? Wouldn't all these "other assassins" that you conjecture but have no evidence for all suffer from the same difficulty of putting a shot in JFK's head if your argument had any merit? So JFK suffered no head wound because of the difficulty, survived the shooting, and is now 100 years old a month and a half ago?

Your argument about the difficulty makes no sense. If not Oswald, who, and where's the evidence for another shooter? You have none.

Contrast this to my own experience. Prior to July 5th, 2015 (and I've mentioned this before), I had never fired a firearm of any sort in my life. On that date I went with my nephew (with a military background) and one brother to a shooting gallery and fired my nephew's recently acquired Carcano rifle (manufacture date of 1917) and hit four of six at 100 yards. Granted, this was at a stationary target, but in contrast to Oswald, who had Marine Corps training and was deemed an 'excellent shot' by civilian standards, I had about two minutes of training that focused on how to brace the rifle against my shoulder so I wouldn't injure myself. I still managed to put four of six shots into the target, including the last three in two tests of three shots each. To date, those are the only six shots I ever fired with any firearm in my life.

Compare those six shots (my total experience) to Oswald's training and how many shots he got to train with at a minimum:

Mr. SPECTER - Does that letter set forth the marksmanship practice which Mr. Oswald had in the Marine Corps?
Major ANDERSON - It does; yes. It shows that he had the course A firing and followed by "fam" firing in the B course.
Mr. SPECTER - By "fam" firing, what does that mean?
Major ANDERSON - This is sharp terminology for familiarization firing and it is used to familiarize a man with the weapon prior to his being armed with said weapon.
Mr. SPECTER - And on what date was the A course registered?
Major ANDERSON - 21 December 1956.
Mr. SPECTER - And what weapon was used?
Major ANDERSON - The M-1 rifle.
Mr. SPECTER - And what was his final qualification there?
Major ANDERSON - 212.
Mr. SPECTER - And what rating is that equivalent to, or within what range of rating is that score?
Major ANDERSON - That should have been a sharpshooter.
Mr. SPECTER - And what was the authorized ammunition allowance?
Major ANDERSON - 400 rounds for recruit firing.
Mr. SPECTER - And during what period was that?
Major ANDERSON - That was to be fired within a 2-week period.
Mr. SPECTER - Did he have exposure on another course for M-1 firing at a later date?
Major ANDERSON - The record shows that 6 May 1959 he fired the B course.
Mr. SPECTER - And what weapon was used at that time?
Major ANDERSON - The M-1 rifle.
Mr. SPECTER - And what score was obtained on that occasion?
Major ANDERSON - 191 for marksman.
Mr. SPECTER - And what was the authorized ammunition allowance?
Major ANDERSON - 200 rounds.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/anderson.htm

Oswald has to be considered a much better shot than me. And if I could do four of six with about two minutes of training at 100 yards, surely he could do two of three with his furthest shot at 88.4 yards. And bear in mind his shots were with a 23-year-old weapon (1963 minus 1940, the year of manufacture for his rifle), while mine was nearly FOUR times older (2015 minus 1917), or 98 years old.

Mr. SPECTER. Based on the tests of Mr. Oswald shown by those documents, how would you characterize his ability as a marksman?
Sergeant ZAHM. I would say in the Marine Corps he is a good shot, slightly above average, and as compared to the average male of his age throughout the civilian, throughout the United States, that he is an excellent shot.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/zahm.htm

And let's dispose of that "Moving Target" nonsense right now. Since the car at the time of the head shot was moving down at about four degrees and directly away from Oswald in the sixth floor window of the Depository, it was essentially a stationary target at the time. It was getting smaller as it moved away, but not moving across his field of vision as he sighted for the final shot and pulled the trigger.

And instead of your own non-expert and solely layman's opinion on what Oswald could or couldn't do with a weapon, let's look at an actual expert's opinion:

Mr. SPECTER. Sergeant Zahm, I am now going to show you the same photographs which I showed to Major Anderson in setting the basis for asking you a hypothetical question on capabilities here. As the record will show, we have heretofore before the President's Commission entered into evidence Exhibit No. 347 which is an overhead shot of Dealey Plaza. Commission Exhibit No. 348, which I am now displaying to you, is a photograph of the Texas School Book Depository Building. The evidence in the record indicates that the marksman stood at the point designated "A" with the lower half of the window being raised halfway, and the gun protruding out of that window pointing down the street called Elm Street in approximately the angle of my pencil which is virtually although not exactly straight down the street. Elm Street declines 3° as it slopes under the triple underpass.
As the evidence will further show, Commission Exhibits Nos. 893 and 895 respectively depict frames 210 and 225 of the Zapruder film which is a range of the first shot from 176.9 feet to 190.8 feet. In the lower left-hand corner under designation "Photograph through rifle scope" there is shown the view of the marksman froth the sixth floor of the depository building as he looked down t ZAHM. Very definitely.
Mr. SPECTER. How would you characterize that, as a difficult, not too difficult, easy, or how would you characterize that shot?
Sergeant ZAHM. With the equipment he had and with his ability, I consider it a very easy shot.
Mr. SPECTER. Now taking a look at Commission Exhibit No. 902, which as the record will show, has been introduced into evidence to depict the shot which struck President Kennedy in the head at a distance from the rifle in the window to the part of the President's body being 265.3 feet. Assuming the same factors about using a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and pointing it down Elm Street as shown on Commission Exhibit No. 347, would a marksman of Mr. Oswald's capabilities using such a rifle with a 4-power scope be able to strike the President in the back of the head? Would Mr. Oswald possess the capability to complete such a shot which did, in this situation, strike the President in the back of the head?
Sergeant ZAHM. Yes; I think that aiming at the mass of what portion of the President is visible at that distance and with his equipment, he would very easily have attained a hit, not necessarily aiming and hitting in the head. This would have been a little more difficult and probably be to the top of his ability, aiming and striking the President in the head. But assuming that he aimed at the mass to the center portion of the President's body, he would have hit him very definitely someplace, and the fact that he hit him in the head, but he could have hit, got a hit.
Mr. SPECTER. So you would have expected a man of Oswald's capabilities at a distance of 265.3 feet to strike the President someplace aiming at him under those circumstances?
Sergeant ZAHM. Yes.


And, since Oswald trained at 200 yards and 500 yards (the latter nearly SIX [6!] times the distance of the LONGEST shot he would have to make in Dealey Plaza), your argument that Oswald was incapable or unlikely to make an 88-yard shot to JFK's head means your argument is also that Oswald was incapable or unlikely to make an 200-yard or 500-yard shot in the Marines and put it in the bullseye. But of course we know he did do that (see his scorebook, published in the Warren Commission volumes of evidence). The fact that he made shots at 200 and 500 yards in the Marines establishes he could make 88-yard shots in Dealey Plaza, and that your arguments here are a joke.

Your arguments are a big failure and simply make no sense.

Whether you understand the point or not.

I also pointed this out in May of 2017 here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11854513&postcount=3956

And here in July of 2016: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11406506&postcount=870

And here in April of 2016: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11244183&postcount=820

I believe there were earlier ones as well, but those three should be sufficient to establish the point.

It's merely his pretense that there's any doubt that Oswald had the skill and the weapon to accomplish the assassination.

No doubt he's going to want you to rephrase all the above before he can be bothered to attempt a rebuttal.

Hank
 
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Okay, but I said the iron sights alone, not with a scope. The scope in evidence is a piece of crap even factoring in the possibility of it falling on the floor in the snipers nest. So lone nutters like Bugliosi are coming around to the idea that a single shooter used the iron sights, not the scope.

The target never cares if the projectile that impacts them was fired using irons or glass.
 
Okay, but I said the iron sights alone, not with a scope.

He was established as capable by citing his Marine Corps record of training by shooting at ten-inch targets 500 yards away. WITH IRON SIGHTS. So much for your absurd argument that he couldn't make the head shot at 88 yards away because the people would look like ants.


The scope in evidence is a piece of crap even factoring in the possibility of it falling on the floor in the snipers nest.

And there's the ever-present logical fallacy. That's a straw man argument. Nobody (except you, here) has ever claimed the rifle was dropped in the sniper's nest. I have 54+ years of reading on this subject and I can assure you that argument hasn't been made that I have ever seen. This is another claim of yours you won't be able to cite for.

Why is it that you, in particular, and conspiracy theorists in general, can't post without logical fallacies?


So lone nutters like Bugliosi are coming around to the idea that a single shooter used the iron sights, not the scope.

Gee, that's only been the acknowledged possibility since the day of the assassination. Nobody except the assassin was there in the sniper's nest window. Nobody except the assassin was using the weapon. Nobody except the assassin has the knowledge to say whether the assassin used the iron sights, the four-power scope, or both.

Your attempted rebuttal argument goes nowhere.

Hank
 
I like that little trick you did there at the end. "It's easy to shoot somebody in the head from 22 yards away"... yadda yadda... "getting shot in the head from 88 yards away would kill you". Almost as if you wanted to the reader to falsely [sic] infer that an 88 yard head shot, moving target, elevated, with only the iron sights, was easy.

Well, Zahm, the Marine Corps shooting expert who testified to the Warren Commission, thought firing from an elevation was a "definite advantage".1
I've asked you TWICE to cite for your claim that it's problematic that Oswald was shooting from an elevation, we're still waiting.2
It was pointed out to you that guard towers are at an elevation for that advantage as well.3 You ignored the point. You'll ignore it again even though it's been rephrased by a different poster.4
And of course, it's a long-time tenet of military strategy to take the high ground.5 Apparently the military's been doing it wrongly for thousands of years and they should have consulted with you and your CT sources first.

Hank
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1 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/zahm.htm
Mr. SPECTER. What effect if any would the alinement of the street have on the moving vehicle in the way that it is shown on the picture, Exhibit, No. 348?
Sergeant ZAHM. This is a definite advantage to the shooter, the vehicle moving directly away from him and the downgrade of the street, and he being in an elevated position made an almost stationary target while he was aiming in, very little movement if any.
Mr. SPECTER. How would the fact that the street had a 3° decline affect the difficulty of the shot.
Sergeant ZAHM. It would make it easier because Oswald was in an elevated position, and therefore if the car was traveling on a level terrain, it would apparently--he would have to keep adjusting by holding up a little bit as the car traveled. But by going downgrade this just straightened out his line of sight that much better.


2 1st time: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12202671&postcount=395
2nd time: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12202786&postcount=407

3 http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12101777&postcount=3158

4 You argued for that here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12202353&postcount=379
And again here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12202425&postcount=388

5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_ground "High ground is an area of elevated terrain, which can be useful in combat. The military importance of high ground has been recognized for over 2,000 years..."
 
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The concept we all are making is that LHO shot both JBC and JFK, with the last shot of three killed JFK.

Plain and simple, there were not two shots to JFK's head. Single assassin in this case.
 
So lone nutters like Bugliosi are coming around to the idea that a single shooter used the iron sights, not the scope.

What evidence is there of any other shooter? Not your interpretations of shooting tests that ignore the expert conclusions, not the disputed dictabelt results, not arguments from incredulity or arguments that attempt to exclude Oswald from the sniper's nest window.

Evidence that directly implicates a second shooter. Like eyewitness testimony of a shooter in a different location. Like fragments of a bullet that's not ballistically traceable to Oswald's weapon. Like a bullet or shells not traceable to another weapon.

Got anything that indicates that there was more than this 'single shooter' you are apparently acknowledging above?

And while you previously claimed that the shot to the head was near to impossible for Oswald firing the iron sights (and also argued against the four-power scope in other posts), your arguments amount to nothing, because the two largest fragments found in the limo were established by ballistic tests to have been fired from Oswald's rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons in the world. Those fragments comprised a large portion of the copper jacket of one bullet (some of the lead core was left in JFK's head, and the bulk of it probably hit the curb and then James Tague), and most likely those copper fragments recovered from the limo were part of the bullet that struck JFK in the head.

Hank
 
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Okay, but I said the iron sights alone, not with a scope. The scope in evidence is a piece of crap even factoring in the possibility of it falling on the floor in the snipers nest. So lone nutters like Bugliosi are coming around to the idea that a single shooter used the iron sights, not the scope.

You posted a link a few pages back where the guy you were quoting said the scope had been removed for finger-printing and reattached throwing off the zero.

Do you even read the stuff first before you post it?

I really want to know why the scope is a "piece of crap". I know how it got the reputation, because in 1963 anything made in Japan was considered cheap junk, and most gun-bunnies of the 1960's were WWII vets, and not likely to buy anything Japanese.

The scope is fine.

Either way, it doesn't really matter. Oswald made the shots because they were easy.
 
No, it's not moving the goalposts. It's having a grasp of what you are talking about. Firing at a stationary level target isn't the single-assassin theory. Your lack of comprehension of my comment does not constitute "moving the goalposts". In real life, a certain Oswald had a Russian buddy who said he was so awful as shooting that after a hunting session he gave him a rabbit to take home.

Did Oswald get a lot of range time while in Russia?

He certainly did before he killed JFK.
 
Yearly reminder: Gerald Posner literally lied through his teeth about the EOP/cowlick controversy to make a name for himself in the research community.
Wow. How desperate can you get?

I don't know, does Posner post on message boards making claims he can't back up, and then after getting shellacked do a fringe re-set to change the conversation?

That's desperate.
 
The scope of off to the left side. You can look down the iron sights without using the scope. You should know this by now.

So, you are shooting at a moving target 88 yards away; you have a x4 scope, but you choose to use the iron sights instead? Really?

Q: In what fantasy world does a sniper make the target more difficult to hit

A: Only in yours
 
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