!@#$% Windows 10!

[Mongrel]

Didn't try that, but will next time. But why should I have to?

Because things do go wrong sometimes, on every OS. It's hard to test every interaction of every program and device driver with every other, many of which are coded on a budget. Most issues are handled much more gracefully nowdays, a few - not so much

 

[commandlinegamer]

why should I have to?

The above could apply to the usage of Windows in general.

 

[Delvo]

.....

 

[Dancing David]

LOL! Who uses Windows anymore?

Any one who wants a controlled domain environment, there are some things that Macs are good at (playing nice on a network is not one), Microsoft Active Directory is just easier to manage. Albeit with its own headaches.

 

[bigred]

You forgot to add in a bunch of the older versions, total for all versions of Windows on that page is 90.94%.

Boggles the mind doesn't it?

And I just discovered another gem of Win 10 design brilliance:

The Windows Help program is not supported in Windows 10, Windows Server 2012 or later versions of Windows Server. The Windows Help program is available for Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 only.

MS hates backwards compatibility almost as much as giving users even the tiniest bit more control over than is absolutely necessary on PCs and with an OS they bought. I never thought I'd long for Win 8.

..|.. spin on that, MS.

 

[paulhutch]

Boggles the mind doesn't it?

No, I'll be surprised if they drop below 89% before PCs finally fade away into power user only tools.

And I just discovered another gem of Win 10 design brilliance:



MS hates backwards compatibility almost as much as giving users even the tiniest bit more control over than is absolutely necessary on PCs and with an OS they bought. I never thought I'd long for Win 8.

..|.. spin on that, MS.

It's about time, they announced the discontinuation of the Windows 3 version help system back when Vista came out 10 years ago. Of course some developers didn't move to any of the newer, better, safer formats so they had to keep releasing versions of the viewer for backward compatibility up through Win8. But after 26 years of active maintenance they finally decided to stop throwing away money on re-writing the viewer to satisfy the minuscule market of developers and users who won't move forward.

FYI the official replacement, compiled HTML help, was released 20 years ago. However at this point anyone using something besides regular HTML and/or PDF for help files is way behind the times as a developer.

 

[Brainster]

So today I had to reset the cable modem and router and when I did, I still wasn't able to get on the internet with my desktop computer. So I looked down at the bottom right (I think it's called the systray) and noticed a new icon down there--it looks like a jet plane. Hovering over it revealed I was "in airplane mode."

 

[GlennB]

So today I had to reset the cable modem and router and when I did, I still wasn't able to get on the internet with my desktop computer. So I looked down at the bottom right (I think it's called the systray) and noticed a new icon down there--it looks like a jet plane. Hovering over it revealed I was "in airplane mode."

Autonomous, evil AI has kicked in, but for now they're just screwing with our minds. MrsB's phone does that 'airplane mode' thing too

 

[xterra]

So today I had to reset the cable modem and router and when I did, I still wasn't able to get on the internet with my desktop computer. So I looked down at the bottom right (I think it's called the systray) and noticed a new icon down there--it looks like a jet plane. Hovering over it revealed I was "in airplane mode."

That mode is included (at no extra cost, mind you) on your desktop computer, just in case you need to use it while flying between your home airport and umm, wherever you need to go while using your laptop computer on an airplane without disrupting the airplane instruments so that you don't land wherever you need to go while using your laptop computer.

I hope this clears up your confusion.

 

[CORed]

Autonomous, evil AI has kicked in, but for now they're just screwing with our minds. MrsB's phone does that 'airplane mode' thing too

I know this is primarily a Windows 10 bitch thread, but I have a couple of Android devices (both made by Samsung) that every so often seem to randomly change a setting, when I'm sure I haven't been anywhere near that setting. Wi-fi gets turned off ore airplane mode turned on, etc. The most bizarre one, on a tablet, was when "reverse video" got turned on. Basically, everything on the display looks like on old color film negative. Black is white, red is green, orange is blue, etc. I was able to find out where to turn it off (it's in the accessibility settings) by Googling on a different device, and I'm sure I was nowhere near the accessibility settings.

 

[paulhutch]

So today I had to reset the cable modem and router and when I did, I still wasn't able to get on the internet with my desktop computer. So I looked down at the bottom right (I think it's called the systray) and noticed a new icon down there--it looks like a jet plane. Hovering over it revealed I was "in airplane mode."

Since you are on a desktop you can avoid this happening again by changing the power management settings in the driver for your WiFi card. (on a notebook you need the power management)

From device manager select the WiFi card and choose properties, on the power management tab uncheck the "Allow the computer to turn this off" checkbox.

 

[The Norseman]

Since you are on a desktop you can avoid this happening again by changing the power management settings in the driver for your WiFi card. (on a notebook you need the power management)

From device manager select the WiFi card and choose properties, on the power management tab uncheck the "Allow the computer to turn this off" checkbox.

You do realize that the point of mentioning it was to illustrate the absurd POV of Microsoft who has the dumb thing turned on in the first place?

 

[paulhutch]

You do realize that the point of mentioning it was to illustrate the absurd POV of Microsoft who has the dumb thing turned on in the first place?

I actually like having an off switch for all the radios in a system but yes I know it may just be silly griping with no desire for an easy solution.

 

[baron]

The first thing I'll be doing when I get Windows 10 is blocking the update servers in the router. Let's see MS turn that back on.

 

[dudalb]

That mode is included (at no extra cost, mind you) on your desktop computer, just in case you need to use it while flying between your home airport and umm, wherever you need to go while using your laptop computer on an airplane without disrupting the airplane instruments so that you don't land wherever you need to go while using your laptop computer.

I hope this clears up your confusion.

It's also on my Kindle with the airplance icon. Pretty much standard on most mobile devices. Nothing to be concerned about.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

No concern except the stupidity of an OS that forces it on, or even makes it available, on a desktop...

 

[The Norseman]

I actually like having an off switch for all the radios in a system but yes I know it may just be silly griping with no desire for an easy solution.

Okay. I mean, I know you're an intelligent guy and all that, so please don't take it as an insult. And yes, I love having fine control over my system (which is one of the reasons I run Linux) with an off/on switch for the components but there sometimes is just stupid default behaviors of a lot of software (and not just MS).

 

[paulhutch]

Okay. I mean, I know you're an intelligent guy and all that, so please don't take it as an insult. And yes, I love having fine control over my system (which is one of the reasons I run Linux) with an off/on switch for the components but there sometimes is just stupid default behaviors of a lot of software (and not just MS).

It is one of those software things that seems odd and Ubuntu and I believe some other distros have the same issue. AIUI, it stems from desktops with radios not being reliably distinguishable from laptops with radios by the OS installer software. So they don't know whether to include an airplane mode or, like on an iMac or Raspberry Pi, give separate on/of switches for WiFi, Bluetooth, etc. Frankly given the rapid decrease in desktop PC sales I'd bet many more UI choices that we are used to seeing only on mobile devices will end up being seen on desktops because there just is not enough profit to cover separate development branches.

AFAIK every computing device with radios has the on/off toggles. Even if an OS installer could 100% accurately determine if the device is portable it's still a difficult choice whether to have a single toggle and label it with the most consumer recognizable icon (airplane) or multiple toggles with multiple icons (WiFi, Bluetooth, NFC, etc.).

This is one of those cases where Apple has a distinct advantage. Because they control the whole ecosystem of hardware and software they easily and reliably know if a device is mobile. So they can make an iMac have no airplane just seperate toggles for each radio and give MacBook an airplane toggle. So the best way to avoid the situation is to buy Apple or a Windows/Linux Desktop with no WiFi or other radios.

I was about to include RasPi with Apple making a fruit based solution but then I remembered the 3rd party pi-top that makes a RasPi into a laptop. Because of their desktop focused choice there is no airplane mode so any user wishing to turn off all radios on a pi-top will have to turn off the two radios separately every time they fly.

 

[This is The End]

but then I remembered the 3rd party pi-top that makes a RasPi into a laptop.

I know they make it for the Pi (and they are leaning heavily on the science kit angle) but something that is over $300 shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as a Pi.

Even if they are using the best quality materials possible their profit margin on that thing has to be pretty generous.

 

[fuelair]

!@#$% Windows 10! and the horse it rode in on!!!!!!!!! And Windows 8!!!!!