The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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Trebuchet said:
Got a link to the correct video? I tried but just got them talking to some doofus legislator in a goofy hat.
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I'm not really sure what I'm looking at in this YouTube video, titled "Protesters Terrorize Children and Families." A loud, obnoxious woman is talking (she has a sidekick, but one woman does most of the talking) and I assume she's also shooting the video, since we never see her face.

Yet whoever uploaded the video put a headline on it indicating they're not sympathetic to the views of the narrator/shooter.

There are people with Trump banners and American flags, but who are not chasing people across the plaza.

The woman who seems to be talking and shooting does get into a brief exchange of profanity with someone. Then someone off camera (a state trooper I think) asks her to refrain from profanity. She still follows people and taunts them under the guise of asking questions. And she seems to be armed.
 
dann said:
Nobody I know wants to be become a U.S. citizen. And apparently most Norwegians have no desire to settle in the USA permanently. Even the Cubans I know who wouldn't mind a change of scenery mention Canada or Europe rather than the USA.
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Of course not, why would they want to move to a S@^THole country like the US?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Scott Walker Is Literally Preventing Wisconsinites From Voting

https://www.thenation.com/article/scott-walker-is-literally-preventing-wisconsinites-from-voting/

The Republican governor is refusing to call special elections to fill vacant legislative seats, as his allies attack nonpartisan oversight of elections.

Republican state senators denied the confirmations of the directors of Wisconsin’s ethics and elections commissions and Senate majority leader Scott Fitzgerald, a close ally of the governor, said he wanted to force out employees of the commissions who had participated in investigations of Republican wrongdoing.
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Republicans just know that the country could be run much more efficiently with out all that annoying voting.
 
Piers is on BBC Radio 2 lunchtime phone in thing at the moment congratulating himself on his interview with Donald.
Apparently the President is incredibly popular in the UK and loves us.
It's only a small minority of Twitter 'sheep' that don't want him to visit.
Saying he would have got a great Brexit deal has endeared him to the majority of the population who support a hard Brexit apparently.
 
phiwum said:
Yes, the Republicans are evil. Evil, I tells ya!

Don't get me wrong. Republicans have, especially in recent years, gerrymandered to a dreadful extent (Dems too, in certain areas, though I'm not sure if the offenses are equal). Some R's have also pushed nonsense conspiracies about voter fraud. McConnell purposely postponed the filling of an SCJ position for blatantly partisan reasons, barely pretending that this is based on precedence.

There's a lot that Republicans have to answer for recently. But there are also principled Republicans who have always supported representative government. Your demonization of the Republicans with hyperbolic claims really doesn't do a damned thing to encourage democratic principles.
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As long as it is only representative of the correct people voting, pushing down voter turn out and voter suppression has become a core republican principle for years. See the overturned voter ID acts specifically tailored to target blacks and so on. The letters about how Voter ID acts will make a permanent republican majority and so on. The states redistricting the day after their need to have the districts checked for racism before the could be implemented.

The pattern is clear. The reason why so many republicans have ties to Russia is that Russia is a clear model of how they want the government run.
 
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That is some ignorance on steroids.
 
phiwum said:
Yes, some GOP politicians are evil in that respect. And I'm not sure what the numbers are in terms of the legislature, but it's discouraging at best.

But the GOP also consists of many other folk, people who are decent whether or not I disagree with some of their opinions.
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Yes they merely support evil that doesn't make them evil.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
And unfortunately all that GOP cheating and courting one-issue voters for the last 4 decades gave us the TEA Party and Trump while the normal GOP legislators became fewer and fewer and wield almost no power in the government at the moment.
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And of course advance the same agenda 90+% of the time.
 
It looks like Trump and the GOP is setting Rosenstein up to be fired, then Trump can appoint a loyalist that will fire Mueller.
 
phiwum said:
Most Republicans are, like most Americans, low information voters. They don't pay attention. I'd rather such folk don't vote, and mostly they don't.

Some Republicans are dedicated to some issues, like a conservative Supreme Court. They support Trump because he's helped on that front. I'm not at all willing to forgive this narrow view, especially given McConnell's shenanigans.
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And we can finally get the first amendment interpreted properly to only apply to christians and make this the truly christian nation it was destined by god to be. They got one seat because of the actions of the party by refusing to put in a judge who they all said was ideal a few years ago. Winning is the most important principle.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And the GOP is walking in lock set to discredit any investigation at all. Their voters are of OK with that.
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Yes, they want a purge of all people who are not loyal to Trump. These are the same jerks that accused Obama of being a dictator. They are pathetic and the type of people that bring forth the destruction of democracy.
 
thaiboxerken said:
It looks like Trump and the GOP is setting Rosenstein up to be fired, then Trump can appoint a loyalist that will fire Mueller.
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His actions run very counter to lies they've pushing about Russia.

A secret, highly contentious Republican memo reveals that Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein approved an application to extend surveillance of a former Trump campaign associate shortly after taking office last spring, according to three people familiar with it.

The renewal shows that the Justice Department under President Trump saw reason to believe that the associate, Carter Page, was acting as a Russian agent. But the reference to Mr. Rosenstein’s actions in the memo — a much-disputed document that paints the investigation into Russian election meddling as tainted from the start — indicates that Republicans may be moving to seize on his role as they seek to undermine the inquiry.

The memo’s primary contention is that F.B.I. and Justice Department officials failed to adequately explain to an intelligence court judge in initially seeking a warrant for surveillance of Mr. Page that they were relying in part on research by an investigator, Christopher Steele, that had been financed by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
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Trumps answer to Piers Morgan question about Global Warming

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With Trump, it can sometimes be hard to tell when he's lying and when he's merely demonstrating profound ignorance. Does he honestly believe that ice caps are "setting records" in a way that would refute global warming or does he just think that people will buy that? I can't really tell.
 
Civet said:
With Trump, it can sometimes be hard to tell when he's lying and when he's merely demonstrating profound ignorance. Does he honestly believe that ice caps are "setting records" in a way that would refute global warming or does he just think that people will buy that? I can't really tell.
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Neither. it's just a sequence of words that fell, unfiltered, out of his brain.
 
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