Man to sue after rape trial collapse

Darat said:
There is no such ambushing in a real court.
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How about an instance where a witness makes a claim, but the defence has an expert witness ready to disprove that claim and that is made know to the witness?

How about knowing from precognition statements a witness is going to make a claim that is opposite to what CCTV is goign to show? Then getting the witness to repeat the claim and then showing the CCTV to them?

Both are ways to discredit prosecution witnesses.
 
smartcooky said:
I find it disturbing that the name of falsely accused man is publicly known, while the lying woman who made a false complaint and committed perjury still has name suppression.

Not only is this grossly unfair, IMO it is in the Public interest for her name to be published so that any man who night potentially become involved with with her can be forewarned that she is a bat-crap crazy bitch.
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I think both should be granted anonymity and they only lose the right if either he is convicted of rape or she is convicted of perverting the course of justice/perjury/wasting the time of the police. Then only the guilty party is named.
 
Nessie said:
How about an instance where a witness makes a claim, but the defence has an expert witness ready to disprove that claim and that is made know to the witness?

How about knowing from precognition statements a witness is going to make a claim that is opposite to what CCTV is goign to show? Then getting the witness to repeat the claim and then showing the CCTV to them?

Both are ways to discredit prosecution witnesses.
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Using fact proven by video to show a witness is a lying scum is ambushing?
 
Nessie said:
How about an instance where a witness makes a claim, but the defence has an expert witness ready to disprove that claim and that is made know to the witness?

How about knowing from precognition statements a witness is going to make a claim that is opposite to what CCTV is goign to show? Then getting the witness to repeat the claim and then showing the CCTV to them?

Both are ways to discredit prosecution witnesses.
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Both the statement the witness made and the CCTV evidence would be known by the prosecution and the police. If either were any good at their job they would already have confronted the witness with the CCTV evidence. My question is what happens if the CCTV evidence is misleading?
 
rjh01 said:
Both the statement the witness made and the CCTV evidence would be known by the prosecution and the police. If either were any good at their job they would already have confronted the witness with the CCTV evidence. My question is what happens if the CCTV evidence is misleading?
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In the case I am thinking of, the witness made the claim during giving evidence in the court, she had not made it in her original statement. She set herself up for an ambushing by making exaggerated claims in the witness box.

If the prosecution was mislead by the CCTV, that is a different matter. I get mistakes are made. I do accept failing to do enquiries and not disclosing all the evidence.
 
rjh01 said:
That requires a subscription. This is the same topic but free http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42841346
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"Attorney General Jeremy Wright said there was no evidence of "widespread malpractice or dishonesty", but police and prosecutors needed to get to grips with the way they handled electronic evidence."

When it comes to lame excuses to cover everyone's arse, this has to be up there.

Lol
 
It also does beg the question of what about the people currently in jail convicted when they shouldn't have been?
 
It sounds to me like the UK Police and the CPS are still operating in the 1990s, i.e. pre Facebook, Youtube, Twitter and smartphone.

I'm also wondering whether the rules of evidence need to be changed. Perhaps a better idea than what they currently have is to have all evidence gathered by both sides related to a case, to have documented copies put into a "case evidence pool" to which both sides have unrestricted access.
 
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