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The Deep State and its real motives

Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I thought the subject of the alleged "Deep State" probably deserved a thread of its own. Especially as I couldn't think of a suitable thread in which to post this fun nugget: Rush Limbaugh opines that the Deep State were responsible for planting fake evidence about Saddam Hussain having WMD's, in order to embarrass Bush

It's quite a versatile theory, this "Deep State" - you can use it to excuse anything by anybody, it seems.
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And the loony wing of the Left uses it just as much as the loony wing of the Right.
 
dudalb said:
And the loony wing of the Left uses it just as much as the loony wing of the Right.
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Big difference, which you continuously overlook when you foist this equivalency from your middle-ground high horse...

The loony left is by and large a fringe phenomenon. Whereas the loony right is running the country.
 
varwoche said:
Big difference, which you continuously overlook when you foist this equivalency from your middle-ground high horse...

The loony left is by and large a fringe phenomenon. Whereas the loony right is running the country.
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And my greatest fear is the the Loony Left takes over the Democratic party and we end up with a choice between two extremes.....
 
varwoche said:
Big difference, which you continuously overlook when you foist this equivalency from your middle-ground high horse...

The loony left is by and large a fringe phenomenon. Whereas the loony right is running the country.
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I think you might be underestimating how much influence far-left ideas have had.

In any case, both the loony left and the loony right are trying to control your life, so we should be concerned in both cases.
 
Whenever I witness clueless people honestly inquiring into topics like this, I ask them to do a little homework for themselves (and don't bother me with quickly found answers): How come we are fighting a "war on terror" in Afghanistan for so many years now, with the drug industry being a main funding source for terrorism, while the country has for all those years been the top - meaning almost monopolist - opium producer, and the US has been for all those years the top heroin consumer. Good luck!
 
So was it the Deep State that restarted the Hillary Investigation a week before the election? Was it the Deep State that was investigating her in the first place for no good reason at all?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I'm a vote for leaving it in the USA politics because it's going to get thick around here in the next month or two with the Trumpers trying to stir this up as a means of getting their base to disbelieve Mueller's findings.

I suspect their goal is to make sure the GOP legislators either have an out for not impeaching the POTUS or they actually want to convince the legislators that indeed the case against Trump is fabricated.
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The legislators aren't that stupid. Bigoted? Yes. Hypocritical? Yes. But not that stupid.

What it will do is convince the voters they need to primary any competition that doesn't toe the party line. Give them cover to support any lies they want to spout.

A voice of reason is the quickest way to talk yourself out of winning any GOP primary these days.
 
I dunno what's going to happen. I only know what needs to happen. But not exactly how it needs to happen.

Whatever ends up happening to Trump should at least serve as a warning to Grand Inquisitor Pence.

They both need to be seriously checked and balanced. I'm not at all sure Pence isn't worse than Trump. But it's looking increasingly likely that Trump will end up having to chew his foot off and make a run for Russia. So it's not too early to start thinking about who is going to be keeping an eye on Grand Inquisitor Pence.

Which immediately disqualifies the GOP. And 40% of the electorate.

The remaining 60% are as fractious as a herd of wildebeest. They could go stampeding off in any direction at any time. So there's going to be lots of counterprods in lion suits trying to stampede them into the informational gulags, where they can be permanently imprisoned, to the collective detriment of all of humankind. So whatever part of humankind doesn't have it's head screwed on backward needs to start trying to calm these wildebeest down (without de-energizing them) and get them headed toward the polls.

I'm not talking about the Trumpkins. They're crazy-ass, wall-eyed counterprods until they die. Don't waste time trying to deprogram them. Maybe tell them the Antichrist is coming and they need to not vote or anything, lest they accidentally vote for the Antichrist and get tatooed. Just kick back, enjoy the show, and wait to be smugly raptured up.
 
dudalb said:
And my greatest fear is the the Loony Left takes over the Democratic party and we end up with a choice between two extremes.....
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Why are you worrying about what might happen when there is no evidence of any such movement growing, while there is an actual alt-right wing promoting ridiculous fear mongering that there is a deep state conspiracy against Trump, all the while working to make charges of his criminal (family) enterprise go away?
 
Travis said:
So was it the Deep State that restarted the Hillary Investigation a week before the election?
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Absolutely ! How else were they going to ensure that President Trump was elected so that they could go on to undermine him :boggled: :p
 
Is anyone worried that with Fox News naming agents and saying they are trying to Coup Trump that someone might take some vigilante justice out on them?

I mean last night Lou Dobbs openly said that a huge portion of the FBI needs to be taken into custody for treason.
 
Toontown said:
Whatever ends up happening to Trump should at least serve as a warning to Grand Inquisitor Pence.
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So...being ripped apart and hung from the White House gates by a pussy-hat wearing angry mob?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Why are you worrying about what might happen when there is no evidence of any such movement growing, while there is an actual alt-right wing promoting ridiculous fear mongering that there is a deep state conspiracy against Trump, all the while working to make charges of his criminal (family) enterprise go away?
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Some might see the popularity in the last election of Bernie Sanders as evidence of such a movement.
 
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