Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 27

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And now, dear readers, more from the lunatic asylum aka TJMK for your laugh of the night:

Well done. Similar emails by others were sent. Several of our lawyers wrote.

This has the sense of a put up or shut up time. Enough is enough. Knox has been hoaxing good people for far too long. Its like a cancer. There is no positive aspect to what she is doing.

In the whole saga over more than ten years only two in the huge cast picked up on doubting vibes that had them in a heartbeat degenerating into slobbering messes.

One was Doug Preston and the other was Knox. I dont see how Roanoke’s legal counsel can let this go forward. Charges for hosting incitement of unstable pro-Knoxers could kill the school.If Knox does pick up such vibes on arrival in Salem she may skip out. Looking forward to any reports." sigh.........
TJMK Front Page Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/23/18 at 01:45 AM

Quennell calling PIP "unstable"? Oh sweet, dear irony!!
 
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Vixen has been given evidence of what this means over and over and over again. She doesn't care that she's misusing it. Most people, once they understand that they're misusing or mispronouncing a word, will start using or saying it correctly, or...at the very least...stop using/saying it incorrectly. But some people simply cannot admit that they are in error and will continue repeating the same error. Somehow, they think this will change the fact they are wrong. It's either that or they just want to childishly and intentionally irritate others.

You are obviously not familiar with Cockney villain vernacular.
 
Well that's good because you're the one who's in a "bubble". I won't say what kind. Bruno didn't "spell out" any such thing.



Knox isn't my heroine, she's your obsession.



No they aren't. Just more of your typical nonsense.



Yep. If not more. For the 2nd time, name one person with legit standing in the IP community who is critical of Knox or what she has to say.

You obviously have not read the court documents. This means I speak from a superior position than yours.
 
You obviously have not read the court documents. This means I speak from a superior position than yours.

LOL!

The only people who spin those documents like you are a small cadre of what remains of English-language nutters gathered around two nutter websites.

The common theme of those nutters is that they're Mignini-surrogates. Otherwise no one else in involved in the guilter PR-campaign - Roanoake is the focus of it right now.

The big winner is Rudy Guede. Not one word from the nutters when the real killer just this week had his own lawyers walk away from him after he went on media protesting his innocence.

That's the way the nutter PR-campaign rolls.
 
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I'll give you 1 guess at what comes up if you Google "cockney kimo sabe "

Google simply strikes out cockney, and searches for the Ojibwe expression, "kimo sabe". Is that what you found?

Vixen is the person who claims to have read all the court documents. Maybe "kimo sabe" is Cockney rhyming slang for, "Mignini is an idiot."
 
You are obviously not familiar with Cockney villain vernacular.

Care to point out where "kimo sabe" is on this list?

http://atleb.tripod.com/ordbok/cockney_villain_dictionary.htm

To the folk at Roanoke - it's these nutter guilters who have (for the last decade) participated in skewing the record on the 2007 horrible murder in Italy.

You folks are now getting the "full Quennell". Ok, ok, maybe only some of you. You're just getting a taste of what others have had to put up with, including and especially the principals to this case.

Enjoy Peter Quennell!
 
Google simply strikes out cockney, and searches for the Ojibwe expression, "kimo sabe". Is that what you found?

Vixen is the person who claims to have read all the court documents. Maybe "kimo sabe" is Cockney rhyming slang for, "Mignini is an idiot."

My mistake for some reason I googled "cockney kimo kemosabe" and the 1st result is Vixen posting on this forum. Go figure.
Basically we have some "friend" of Vixen's misusing a made up American Indian phrase and Vixen following along without any question. Is this a pattern? Vixen's "theory" of the origin of the phrase is debunked here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ke-mo_sah-bee
and elsewhere.

Here's another theory of the meaning of Kemo Sabe
https://cartoon.simplepict.com/far-side-kemosabe-cartoon/
 
You obviously have not read the court documents. This means I speak from a superior position than yours.

Yes I have. And no you don't.

For the 3rd time, name one person with legit standing in the IP community who is critical of Knox or what she has to say.
 
Vixen said:
You obviously have not read the court documents. This means I speak from a superior position than yours.
Yes I have. And no you don't.

For the 3rd time, name one person with legit standing in the IP community who is critical of Knox or what she has to say.

To the Roanoke folk - AnimalFriendly is getting way way ahead of us. Vixen also owes us at least 1, just 1 forensic-DNA expert who supports the original prosecution of this case and its presentation of the so-called DNA evidence against Sollecito and Knox.

We've been asking for months. A recent TJMK piece assured us that the DNA evidence had been both sound and convincing. (Note: the TJMK website is the only website - other than PMF.NUT - which claims this.)

To the Roanoke folk - if you truly wish to see what the scientific community has said about the DNA "evidence", read the study published by the inventor of some of the leading forensic-DNA techniques.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26971315

But you'll be pulled down the nutter-rabbit-hole when they say that these people are just "paid shills of the defence". Note: that statement is more than stupid - it is avoidance of answering the question as asked: "name 1 forensic-DNA expert who supports the original DNA case against Sollecito and Knox?"
 
Here's some more lunacy from Pete:

The latest, Monday at noon.

Apparently much head-scratching and recrimination at Roanoke thanks to some great warnings that those here have sent to raise the heat. I could see still Knox appearing but it could be a skeptical or hostile audience Knox encounters there.

It could be her last. She is actively committing hate crimes with these demonizing lie-filled speeches. As a direct result stalking and threats in Perugia have been on the up and up. Several crazies have lunged at Mignini, and the Carabinieri is ordered to keep a sharper eye out for guns.

What if someone dies? The mafias will like that, but Roanoke and Knox and Marriott and Knox’s family and Fischer and Moore and Heavey could all be charged with incitement at least.

This has become a very very very dangerous game. Roanoke’s legal counsel is Michael Pace and we wrote to him to rub in Roanoke’s risks.

"Stalking" on the uptick in Perugia? "Crazies" lunging at Mignini? But, but...I thought everybody in Italy thought Knox was guilty? And the police are keeping a "sharper eye out for guns"? Well, do tell! Wonders never cease.

I do wish Quennell would back up all his "coulds" with some bets. We could help him set up a site to keep the money in escrow. I'd take all of that action I can get.
 
Here's some more lunacy from Pete:



"Stalking" on the uptick in Perugia? "Crazies" lunging at Mignini? But, but...I thought everybody in Italy thought Knox was guilty? And the police are keeping a "sharper eye out for guns"? Well, do tell! Wonders never cease.

I do wish Quennell would back up all his "coulds" with some bets. We could help him set up a site to keep the money in escrow. I'd take all of that action I can get.

Quennell's been creating an alternate reality for years. If I had a nickel for every false claim he's made I wouldn't still be playing the lottery. His website is one massive fictional novel sans the document and photo libraries.

However, considering what Amanda will be speaking about at Roanoke;

In Truth Matters, Knox will describe what it's like to be publicly vilified and wrongfully convicted, and what she's learned about truth-seeking in the process.

Amanda should thank Quennell for TJMK... is there not a greater example of using the Internet to vilify someone? Admittedly it's only a part of the overall problem, but what Quennell, Naseer Ahmad (originally 'Michael', but Naseer has been running the ship for years now) and Peggy Ganong did with their sites is definitely the new reality when it comes to public vilification. They deserve a full chapter in Amanda's presentation.
 
For the Roanoke folk, from Time Magazine:

The Amanda Knox Haters Society: How They Learned to Hate Me Too

Viewpoint: The author of a book on the young American accused of murder in Perugia recalls her adventures with the “guilters”

By Nina Burleigh March 29, 2013

http://world.time.com/2013/03/29/the-amanda-knox-haters-society-how-they-learned-to-hate-me-too/

You'll find all you need to know about Peter Quennell and the hater-PR machine he's been running for years:

Burleigh in Time Magazine said:
I sat down with TJMK founder Peter Quennell, who has always claimed he started the site to make sure that no one forgot the victim. A stout, ruddy Englishman living in New Jersey, he had been holding out the carrot of introducing me to the elusive Kercher family. He seemed vastly knowledgeable and connected. At the time, I also believed that Amanda Knox could be, indeed, a Charles Manson behind a pretty face.
After a month in Italy doing reporting, however, I realized that some of the “facts” on Quennell’s website didn’t seem to be in the police record in Italy. I emailed him to ask where he had found out that Knox and Sollecito met police standing outside the murder house with a mop and bucket in hand. That damning incident was nowhere in the record, not even the prosecutor would confirm it, nor had Italy’s Polizia Scientifica ever tested such items, which would surely have offered up some useful DNA evidence, had they been used to clean blood.

Quennell then accused me by email of being on the Knox family payroll, informed me that his sources in Perugia had seen me consorting with Amanda’s mother (I had in fact met with her once, in a public place, by then) and eventually started writing about how he was going to “train his scope” on my apartment in Manhattan, and closing emails with “how are the kiddies?”
 
To the Roanoke folk - AnimalFriendly is getting way way ahead of us. Vixen also owes us at least 1, just 1 forensic-DNA expert who supports the original prosecution of this case and its presentation of the so-called DNA evidence against Sollecito and Knox.

We've been asking for months. A recent TJMK piece assured us that the DNA evidence had been both sound and convincing. (Note: the TJMK website is the only website - other than PMF.NUT - which claims this.)

To the Roanoke folk - if you truly wish to see what the scientific community has said about the DNA "evidence", read the study published by the inventor of some of the leading forensic-DNA techniques.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26971315

But you'll be pulled down the nutter-rabbit-hole when they say that these people are just "paid shills of the defence". Note: that statement is more than stupid - it is avoidance of answering the question as asked: "name 1 forensic-DNA expert who supports the original DNA case against Sollecito and Knox?"

Here's an excerpt from the abstract, with a few key point highlighted:

"Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were exonerated in March 2015. Another defendant, Rudy Guede, remains convicted as the sole perpetrator. He was implicated by multiple DNA profiles recovered from the murder room and the bathroom. However, the evidence against Guede contrasted strongly with the limited evidence against two co-defendants, Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito. There were no DNA profiles pertaining to Amanda Knox in the murder room itself. She was separately implicated by a knife recovered remote from the crime scene (discovered in a cutlery drawer at Sollecito's apartment), along with DNA profiles in a bathroom that she had shared with the victim. Upon analysis a low level trace of DNA attributed to the murder victim was found on the blade of a knife, along with DNA profiles attributed to Amanda Knox from the handle. However, there was no evidence of blood on the knife blade itself. A separate key piece of evidence was a DNA profile attributed to Raffaele Sollecito recovered from a forcibly removed bra-clasp found in the murder room. There followed an extraordinary series of trials and retrials where the pair were convicted, exonerated, re-convicted and finally, in March 2015 they were finally exonerated (no further appeal is possible). Since Knox and Sollecito have been found innocent it is opportune to carry out an extensive review of the case to discover the errors that led to conviction so that similar mistakes do not occur in the future. It is accepted that the DNA profiles attributed to them were transferred by methods unrelated to the crime event itself. There is a wealth of material available from the judgements and other reports which can be analysed in order to show the errors of thinking. The final judgement of the case-the Marasca-Bruno motivation report-exposes the illogicality of much of the previous court proceedings that led to the convictions and provides useful guidance for judges to follow."
 
I'll give you 1 guess at what comes up if you Google "cockney kimo sabe "

Let's give Vix the benefit of the doubt. She may be referring to this:

Kimo Sabe is Tom Hubert and Doug Lumbley. The original and classic rock duo has performed together for 35 years
https://www.facebook.com/highlonesometrail/about

Let's also assume they're Cockneys who just happened to be born and raised in the US.

I'm certain that Vix will produce some evidence that "kimo sabe" is "Cockney villain vernacular".
 
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Yes I have. And no you don't.

For the 3rd time, name one person with legit standing in the IP community who is critical of Knox or what she has to say.

If you have read the court documents as you claim, what made you state it was 'nonsense' that Bruno-Marasca did state Knox was there, did wash off the victim's blood and did cover up for Rudy. What's more they confirmed the burglary was staged.

To deny it proves you are either utterly ignorant, or, more probably, deliberately spinning lies. It beats me why anyone would rush to the defence of a despicable criminal, but there's nowt so queer as folk.
 
Let's give Vix the benefit of the doubt. She may be referring to this:


https://www.facebook.com/highlonesometrail/about

Let's also assume they're Cockneys who just happened to be born and raised in the US.

I'm certain that Vix will produce some evidence that "kimo sabe" is "Cockney villain vernacular".

You should get out more. Not everything is recorded on the internet.
 
Care to point out where "kimo sabe" is on this list?

http://atleb.tripod.com/ordbok/cockney_villain_dictionary.htm

To the folk at Roanoke - it's these nutter guilters who have (for the last decade) participated in skewing the record on the 2007 horrible murder in Italy.

You folks are now getting the "full Quennell". Ok, ok, maybe only some of you. You're just getting a taste of what others have had to put up with, including and especially the principals to this case.

Enjoy Peter Quennell!

You think cockneys have a vocabulary of only a few dozen words...?

Peter Quennell is just one individual. It is so typical of you to bring personalities into it instead of concentrating on the issues at hand.
 
Let's give Vix the benefit of the doubt. She may be referring to this:


https://www.facebook.com/highlonesometrail/about

Let's also assume they're Cockneys who just happened to be born and raised in the US.

I'm certain that Vix will produce some evidence that "kimo sabe" is "Cockney villain vernacular".

Guilters use words and expressions wrongly or idiosyncratically to cover up their lack of any cogent credible arguments. In fact their specious arguments lack knowledge or acceptance of the basics of forensic science, such as DNA profiling, required to understand the case. Thus, the guilters fall back primarily on absurd attacks on the personalities of Knox, Sollecito, the president and recorder among the acquitting judges (ignoring that the final definitive acquittal was the product of a panel of five judges), and all the various experts, such as Dr. Gill, who have shown the flaws in the prosecution case.
 
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