Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 27

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The forgotten man to nutters, Rudy Guede, is cut loose by his own attorneys - after giving an interview blaming others for his murderous ways.

Note how Guede "apologizes" to the Kerchers then claims he has nothing to apologize for!

JANUARY 21, 2016
Rudy Guede is interviewed by Franca Leosini on the “Storie Maledette” (“Cursed Stories”) program. He talks about his life now, as parolee in a work-release program at a local legal library and reiterates his innocence. He tells Leosini that his fear of being “blamed” for Meredith Kercher’s murder is the reason he ran away, all those years ago, covered in her blood. Guede apologizes to the Kercher family and once again blames Amanda and Raffaele for the murder.

http://www.maridacaterini.it/inform...udy-guede-nella-1-puntata-del-21-gennaio.html

JANUARY 22, 2016
Rudy Guede’s lawyers end their professional relationship after his interview on Franca Leosini’s “Storie Maledette” program in addition to setting up a Facebook page to proclaim his innocence. Walter Biscotti and Nicodemo Gentile state that, "considering all the technical-procedural aspects involved in the affair have been exhausted" and that they had not been consulted regarding the interview, they decided it was best to end their relationship with the parolee. The Knox, Sollecito and Kercher legal teams agreed with the Perugian team that Guede’s statement are inappropriate. (2016 Il Giornale, “Perugia, ora i legali abbandonano Guede” by Chiara Sarra)

http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/cronache/perugia-ora-i-legali-abbandonano-guede-1215859.html
 
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TruthCalls said:
Honestly, people like Quennell worry me. They're the type of people where society often finds itself asking why we didn't see the signs 'before', except in this case we've been seeing the signs for a long time. It's one thing to be obsessive as it pertains to an active investigation and trying to influence its outcome, but quite another to continue on as these people have after the case is definitively closed. What does Quennell possibly hope to accomplish? Amanda has been definitively acquitted and can never again stand trial for the crime. These groups - law schools, innocence projects, etc. - know the story and they want Amanda to come speak, so they can't hope to expect to alter the demand for her. There is no logical, reasonable objective I can think of. But then, that's the problem - obsession isn't reasonable, it's not logical... it's an illness and it almost never leads to good things. I don't mean to sound like the prophet of doom but I really do hope law enforcement at some level have these people on their radar.
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Well said! That about sums it up. As for what Quennell hopes to gain, imo, he enjoys all the attention he gets from his merry band of misfits. I suspect it makes him feel like a Big Important Man. He's not. He's just obsessed with Knox.
 
Seldom mentioned is the quirk of the Italian justice system which allows civil trials to run concurrently with the associated criminal trial—i.e., the Kercher family civil case against Knox/Sollecito and the Lamumba false accusation case against Knox. Knox wouldn’t have been so mercilessly trashed by Marasco and Pacelli who pulled no punches. One has to wonder what the trial outcomes would have been if Marasco and Pacelli hadn’t been participants in the fiasco? Also, would the outcome have been different if Guede would have been cross examined when he was allowed to make his statement in court?
 
Slick Pete (I think that should be "Slipped Pete" as he has really gone of the deep end!) has amended his "Breaking News" stories regarding Roanoke College yet again. Posted at TJMK's Front Page:

Breaking news. Hoaxers have apparently poisoned Roanoke College minds. So professional promoter of bigotry Amanda Knox will once again, in person and on film, be inciting hate crimes against many in Italy. Angry staff tell us it's mafia tool Tanya Ridpath putting Roanoke's good reputation and Perugia lives at risk. Roanoke's counsel is informed.
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It gets even more ludicrous:

Apparently much head-scratching and recrimination at Roanoke thanks to some great warnings that those here have sent to raise the heat. I could see still Knox appearing but it could be a skeptical or hostile audience Knox encounters there.

It could be her last. She is actively committing hate crimes with these demonizing lie-filled speeches. As a direct result stalking and threats in Perugia have been on the up and up. Several crazies have lunged at Mignini, and the Carabinieri is ordered to keep a sharper eye out for guns.

What if someone dies? The mafias will like that, but Roanoke and Knox and Marriott and Knox’s family and Fischer and Moore and Heavey could all be charged with incitement at least.

This has become a very very very dangerous game. Roanoke’s legal counsel is Michael Pace and we wrote to him to rub in Roanoke’s risks. You might want to as well: gpace@roanoke.edu
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Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/22/18 at 02:38 PM | #

I cannot believe the depths of absurdity this "man" has fallen to. What is really scary is that he believes all nonsense. Something is very seriously wrong with him and I wouldn't doubt that the Roanoke staff and legal counsel are very well aware of it.
 
Stacyhs said:
Such selective memory. Let me remind you:
guilty as charged, and not upheld by the Hellmann Appeal Court.
Nencini Appeal Court? Thrown out by the Supreme Court with no remand to another appeal court. Done and done.

Doddering old fools? Are you still claiming Marasca was an octogenarian? Marasca was 71 when he heard the case. Bruno, born 12 March 1952, turned 63 the same month he acquitted Knox and Sollecito. Hmmmm...are you saying a 63 year old is a "doddering old fool"? If so, I can think of someone who should considering getting a walker.
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I am sure the person I can think of can manage.
 
Stacyhs said:
A little bit more info on the "doddering old fool" Bruno. Seems the Italian judiciary feels a bit differently:


http://www.strill.it/citta/2016/04/...sidente-di-sezione-della-corte-di-cassazione/

You can read about his respected and accomplished career in the link above.
Somehow, they failed to mention he was a "doddering old fool" and was paid off by the massive Knox PR machine or the US government.
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After Bruno's embarrassingly defective judgment, in the Kercher case, they moved him sideways out of the courts swiftly to a desk job where he can do no more damage, whilst saving face, as he got jolly litigious when he was charged with Mafia activity.
 
Bill Williams said:
You forgot the basic assumption these nutters make. Knox is a witch.

No mention at all from them of Rudy Guede, the man who left his DNA inside the victim. It's all about harassing people for inviting Knox to speak about the two sorts of harassments she's received. Judicial harassment for a crime she did not commit, and internet harassment which continues to this day. Vixen, Peter Quennell et al. make the case for Knox before she even gets there.
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I beg your pardon? I have never harrassed anyone in my life (OK, maybe I once mocked some Man U fans from the away end at Old Trafford). (Hmmm, and West Ham...)

What is it that makes you prefer a lie to the truth? Knox is a fairly convicted felon who served three years for the US equivalent of Obstruction of Justice which has a sentence of five years across most US states, and a year on remand as someone likely to abscond.

She has never been exonerated, and she was never 'wrongfully imprisoned'.

But then you already know that.
 
Stacyhs said:
So True. Where is there campaign of outrage against Guede for getting out of prison to work as an intern at the Criminal Studies Center? Where are their telephone calls and emails decrying Guede freely eating lunch with friends outside prison? Nowhere to be found. Why? Because they never gave a damn about him. It's always been all about Knox for them. They are just obsessed with her and they can't see it. Instead, they hide behind their self-righteous claims of being "good, decent people" and that it's "all for Meredith". Yeah, sure it is.
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Rudy Guede did the crime and did the time. For sure he is claiming he is innocent, but as soon as he joins Knox and Raff on the 'Wrongful conviction' bandwagon, then decent people with a sense of morals will complain in no uncertain terms.
 
Stacyhs said:
Vixen said:
Guilty as charged, and upheld by the Appeal Court.

Enter the doddering old fools Marasca-Bruno...[/QUOTE]

What makes your "doddering old fools" quip even more ludicrous is that your beloved Mignini is two years older than Bruno, and only 6 years younger than Marasca.
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Did you read Bruno's gibberings? He can barely string one thought with another in any coherent form.

He claims the pair are annulled because of 'investigative flaws' and 'press influence', when these were never issues under appeal. The issue of contamination and police bias was already settled by Chieffi when he dismissed Taggliabracchi's submissions that Dr. Stefanoni was 'suspect-centric'.

Res judicata. Is Bruno so legally ignorant/senile he didn't know it wasn't his place to decide the issue again?
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Vixen said:
I beg your pardon? I have never harrassed anyone in my life (OK, maybe I once mocked some Man U fans from the away end at Old Trafford). (Hmmm, and West Ham...).
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Are you part of the group currently harassing Roanoke administrators and lawyers?
 
Vixen said:
Did you read Bruno's gibberings? He can barely string one thought with another in any coherent form.

He claims the pair are annulled because of 'investigative flaws' and 'press influence', when these were never issues under appeal. The issue of contamination and police bias was already settled by Chieffi when he dismissed Taggliabracchi's submissions that Dr. Stefanoni was 'suspect-centric'.

Res judicata. Is Bruno so legally ignorant/senile he didn't know it wasn't his place to decide the issue again?
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The English language nutters congregated around the two remaining hate sites are the only people in the world, with the exception of Mignini himself, who see it this way.

You folks are Mignini surrogates, and it is illustrative that Mignini cannot get this support in Italy.
 
Bill Williams said:
Are you part of the group currently harassing Roanoke administrators and lawyers?
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Your use of a synecdoche is noted and dismissed as the logical fallacy of false antecedent that it is.

In other words, just because one often concurs with another, it does not follow you are joined at the hip. Kimo sabe?

I haven't contacted Roanoke, but no conclusion as to my opinion of its decision to pay someone who committed a heartrendingly cruel crime should be drawn from this lack of action.
 
Bill Williams said:
The forgotten man to nutters, Rudy Guede, is cut loose by his own attorneys - after giving an interview blaming others for his murderous ways.

Note how Guede "apologizes" to the Kerchers then claims he has nothing to apologize for!

JANUARY 21, 2016
Rudy Guede is interviewed by Franca Leosini on the “Storie Maledette” (“Cursed Stories”) program. He talks about his life now, as parolee in a work-release program at a local legal library and reiterates his innocence. He tells Leosini that his fear of being “blamed” for Meredith Kercher’s murder is the reason he ran away, all those years ago, covered in her blood. Guede apologizes to the Kercher family and once again blames Amanda and Raffaele for the murder.
http://www.maridacaterini.it/inform...udy-guede-nella-1-puntata-del-21-gennaio.html

JANUARY 22, 2016
Rudy Guede’s lawyers end their professional relationship after his interview on Franca Leosini’s “Storie Maledette” program in addition to setting up a Facebook page to proclaim his innocence. Walter Biscotti and Nicodemo Gentile state that, "considering all the technical-procedural aspects involved in the affair have been exhausted" and that they had not been consulted regarding the interview, they decided it was best to end their relationship with the parolee. The Knox, Sollecito and Kercher legal teams agreed with the Perugian team that Guede’s statement are inappropriate. (2016 Il Giornale, “Perugia, ora i legali abbandonano Guede” by Chiara Sarra)

http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/cronache/perugia-ora-i-legali-abbandonano-guede-1215859.html
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Except he doesn't really. He has never in the history of the case claimed Amanda nor Raffaele stabbed Meredith. Every story is a vague utterance about "I heard her" "I saw her flee" "There was a shadowy man" etc etc.

It's an important distinction because according to the prosecution and the PGP he was dragged to the murder by his accomplices, enticed into holding Meredith down, then forced to witness Knox slicing her throat open with a giant knife and see the life drain from the victim before his eyes, then Knox and Raffaele carefully preserved his footprints and handprints and staged a break-in pointing directly at him. And in return for this treatment Rudy maintains his silence and never produces any real evidence or testimony against them and voluntarily serves the longest prison sentence and remains the sole convicted murderer and rapist of Meredith Kercher for all time.
 
Vixen said:
Your use of a synecdoche is noted and dismissed as the logical fallacy of false antecedent that it is.

In other words, just because one often concurs with another, it does not follow you are joined at the hip. Kimo sabe?

I haven't contacted Roanoke, but no conclusion as to my opinion of its decision to pay someone who committed a heartrendingly cruel crime should be drawn from this lack of action.
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Embedded in this word salad is an actual answer to what was asked. Thank you for that.

Do you further concede that the stuff being communicated by the nutters to the Roanoke people:
- is just plain nutty?
- proves what is being said about the nutters?
- changes nothing in relation to the exonerations nearly three years ago?​
 
One would almost think Rudy Guede is hesitant to commit calunnia against two innocent people he knows to be innocent ;)
 
bagels said:
One would almost think Rudy Guede is hesitant to commit calunnia against two innocent people he knows to be innocent ;)
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Rudy at trial had the full right to remain silent when he was accused. Yet he was brought in to the Sollecito/Knox process while not being exposed to cross-examination. Now his own lawyers have severed ties with him on the basis of him in another "cross-examinationless" setting. His own lawyers.

But then again, IIRC, he's not facing any more legal jeopardy. Unless, as you say, he goes all full monty and commits calunnia.
 
Bill Williams said:
Embedded in this word salad is an actual answer to what was asked. Thank you for that.

Do you further concede that the stuff being communicated by the nutters to the Roanoke people:
- is just plain nutty?
- proves what is being said about the nutters?
- changes nothing in relation to the exonerations nearly three years ago?​
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I have no idea what you are referring to, although I can guess. If you have a query about someone's conduct, ask the person direct.

I can only speak for myself.
 
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