Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 27

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TJMK has started their "anti-Amanda" campaign to Roanoke College regarding her speaking there in order to "let them know it’s unacceptable for a college to treat a convicted criminal as some kind of celebrity". Their whining has never stopped any of her other appearances before so why they think it will be successful now is curious. I guess hate springs eternal at TJMK.

PQ admitted their past campaigns at other colleges resulted in dead silence so he is encouraging everyone to "keep the college on our side". Why does he think Roanoke is on their side? Because they've replied to some of their emails. No, Petey...they'll be on your side if they cancel her appearance. Until then, keep living in your fantasy world.
 
TJMK has started their "anti-Amanda" campaign to Roanoke College regarding her speaking there in order to "let them know it’s unacceptable for a college to treat a convicted criminal as some kind of celebrity". Their whining has never stopped any of her other appearances before so why they think it will be successful now is curious. I guess hate springs eternal at TJMK.

PQ admitted their past campaigns at other colleges resulted in dead silence so he is encouraging everyone to "keep the college on our side". Why does he think Roanoke is on their side? Because they've replied to some of their emails. No, Petey...they'll be on your side if they cancel her appearance. Until then, keep living in your fantasy world.

LOL. That is a keeper.

As acbytesla said, all PQ and his nutter PR campaign does is prove the point, that Amanda is subject to online harassment.

I agree, that is a keeper. PQ and the nutters are likely to only get polite replies and nothing else.
 
TJMK has started their "anti-Amanda" campaign to Roanoke College regarding her speaking there in order to "let them know it’s unacceptable for a college to treat a convicted criminal as some kind of celebrity". Their whining has never stopped any of her other appearances before so why they think it will be successful now is curious. I guess hate springs eternal at TJMK.

PQ admitted their past campaigns at other colleges resulted in dead silence so he is encouraging everyone to "keep the college on our side".

PQ assumes the silence is because the conspiracy got to whoever before he could. It never occurs to him that Nina Burleigh figured him out, and that others can too.

Pity the poor Roanoke staffer who'd replied to him out of shear manners. Next there'll be photoshops of the staffer on TJMK on the article they'll write on how initially she/he was their supporter, then became an innocence shill.
 
Just for the record: (the shortened short version after losing two posts :mad:)
Bilanci di fine anno 2017 - Dodici mesi di cronaca giudiziaria
Da Rudy Guede al caso Manca…
(8 gennaio, 2018)
Viterbo – (sil.co.) – Un anno di cronaca giudiziaria e di processi. Uno dei quali non si farà: è il processo bis a Rudy Guede, detenuto a Mammagialla dove sta scontando la condanna a 16 anni in concorso per l’omicidio di Meredith Kercher, la giovane londinese uccisa a Perugia il primo novembre 2007. Era il 10 gennaio 2017 quando la corte d’appello di Firenze ha dichiarato inammissibile la richiesta.
Interesting, that despite featuring Guede at the top of their recap of the judicial year 2017, there is no mention of any appeal to Cassazione...
"Uno dei quali non si farà" seems to speak volumes...
 
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Just for the record: (the shortened short version after losing two posts :mad:)
Bilanci di fine anno 2017 - Dodici mesi di cronaca giudiziaria
Da Rudy Guede al caso Manca…
(8 gennaio, 2018)

Interesting, that despite featuring Guede at the top of their recap of the judicial year 2017, there is no mention of any appeal to Cassazione...
"Uno dei quali non si farà" seems to speak volumes...

Methos, thanks for finding this bulletin.

Here's the translation by Google (with my help):

"A year of judicial reporting and trials. One of them will not be done: it is the second trial [that is, revision trial] for Rudy Guede, detained in Mammagialla where he is serving a 16-year sentence for the murder, in concert with others, of Meredith Kercher, the young Londoner who was killed in Perugia on 1 November 2007. It was 10 January 2017 when the Court of Appeal of Florence declared the request inadmissible."

I think we shouldn't over-interpret the bulletin.

The phrase "Uno dei quali non si farà" which translates to "One of which will not be done" is, I believe, just referring to what happened - or didn't happen - in 2017. There doesn't seem to be any reference to Cassation, which may only mean that there has been no news of a Guede appeal to Cassation, if indeed there was an appeal.

I expect that the CSC would not grant Guede a revision request, if indeed he appealed.
 
Murderer in concert Rudy Guede, making his Wiener Philharmoniker debut.

I'm surprised Italy didn't create a new law for him to be guilty of: Helping Amanda Knox commit an Amanda Knox murder by Amanda Knox during the course of an Amanda Knox crime in the first degree while being an accessory to Amanda Knox who really did the murder. Too subtle?
 
Murderer in concert Rudy Guede, making his Wiener Philharmoniker debut.

I'm surprised Italy didn't create a new law for him to be guilty of: Helping Amanda Knox commit an Amanda Knox murder by Amanda Knox during the course of an Amanda Knox crime in the first degree while being an accessory to Amanda Knox who really did the murder. Too subtle?

Here you are actually summarizing the - very strange - Borsini appeal court motivation report which reduced Rudy Guede's sentence, in part because he was the only one to apologize to the victim's family. Although Guede didn't actually apologize for murdering Meredith Kercher.

Source: https://borsinibellardi.wordpress.com/contents/reasons-for-the-decision/
 
Here you are actually summarizing the - very strange - Borsini appeal court motivation report which reduced Rudy Guede's sentence, in part because he was the only one to apologize to the victim's family. Although Guede didn't actually apologize for murdering Meredith Kercher.

Source: https://borsinibellardi.wordpress.com/contents/reasons-for-the-decision/

Life must be surreal for Rudy Guede. He breaks into a girls house, rapes her and slits her throat and watches her last moment as she chokes on and vomits up blood and then expires out of this world forever leaving him free to dig through her purse for goodies, then gets caught red handed, and...nobody really cares. Even the court allegedly convicting him of murder doesn't really see him as anything but an unimportant footnote.

This is what gave him the gall to go on national Italian TV and laugh about how charming he was with Meredith the night he butchered her - and do it to the approval and/or disinterest of everybody.
 
I wonder how Pete's campaign not to have Amanda speak at Roanoke College is going. Have they started to ignore him and his merry band of misfits yet?
 
I wonder how Pete's campaign not to have Amanda speak at Roanoke College is going. Have they started to ignore him and his merry band of misfits yet?

It is one thing to remain silent and be thought a nut. It's quite another to bombard them with emails and remove all doubt!
 
On another forum (IIP), Annella has posted a reference to an excellent summary of forensic DNA analysis from the UK Royal Society:

https://royalsociety.org/~/media/ab...y-forensic-dna-analysis-primer-for-courts.pdf

Here's an excerpt:

"2.4 Comparison of DNA profiles
2.4.1 Collection of DNA samples – avoiding contamination
Biological evidence from a crime scene needs to be collected carefully, transported and stored properly prior to examination. Most biological evidence is best preserved when stored dry and/or frozen. Contamination in the context of DNA analysis can be defined as the introduction of extraneous DNA (or biological material containing DNA) to a sample. The DNA profiling process is extremely sensitive and constant vigilance is required to ensure that contamination does not affect the results. Because of this sensitivity, contaminating DNA may still be observed even with careful precautions, and will routinely be monitored in laboratories. The forensic scientist must use all the information available to them to assess whether a contamination event, if it occurs, has had an impact on the results in a specific case. 2.4.2 Evaluating the statistical weight of matching a single DNA profile
If there is a match between the STR profiles of two DNA samples, then there are three
possible explanations:
1. The suspect is the source of the material.
2. The material came from a second person who has an identical DNA profile to that
of the suspect.
3. The match is a false positive due to contamination or some other kind of error. The match probability is an estimate of the likelihood (or chance) of observing the DNA
profile obtained if someone other than, and unrelated to, the suspect, was the source
of the DNA. An expanded explanation is presented in Appendix 3."

In the Knox - Sollecito case, the allegedly incriminating DNA samples on the kitchen knife and bra clasp could not be distinguished from possible contamination or even laboratory misconduct. That means that they had no evidentiary value.
 
The trial for rape of the former Deputy Commander of Capanne prison, Argiro, has been postponed yet again. This is the same man that Knox accused of sexually harassing her while in prison.

Google translation:

Perugia, the trial of the former guard of Amanda Knox accused of sexual violence collects the third postponement


Raffaele Argirò, deputy commander of the Capanne prison, was sent to trial in 2013 for alleged rape against a police officer: no witness was heard in three years
The trial of Raffaele Argirò, former deputy commander of the prison police of the Capanne prison accused of aggravated sexual violence against an ex-Milanese guardian, has not yet begun. Yesterday, the first college of the penal court of Perugia, chaired by Gaetano Mautone, even though the investigation had not started, the hearing was postponed tout court until 23 May 2017. In the two previous - October 2014 and March 2015 - it was limited to the lists of witnesses and very little else. It is learned in the court corridors that the Tuesday hearing was postponed because one of the constituents of the college was transferred to the European Court of Justice for several months. Up to now none of the 40 or so witnesses have been heard but the closed-door hearing before the college, composed for the third time in a different way, has received another postponement.
Three years ago the indictment of the trial of the gup Lidia Brutti is dated November 29, 2013. The disputed facts date back to December 2006-January 2007, but the complaint was formalized to the late police - in October 2011 - and the Massimo Massimo Casucci has closed the investigation an exact year later. Putting the statements of the injured person safe in the probationary incident during which the woman spoke of a "slave-slave relationship" characterized by "a dozen sexual relations".
The disappointment of the civil party Tuona the civil lawyer Mario Tedesco: "Following a circular of the CSM the president of the college has cataloged this process as one of those not to be treated with priority. Yet the disputed facts are very serious. We are disappointed and bitter, we have already taken into account that everything will be prescribed - continues German - and if next May the judge Pazzaglia will not be returned will be postponed even the next hearing.

The defendant: I am innocent The limitation periods for a crime such as sexual violence are quite long but Argirò, 61 years old from Stignano (Reggio Calabria) seems willing to demonstrate his innocence in the court, eager for the trial to be celebrated within a reasonable time. "The wait makes him suffering - explain his lawyers Daniela Paccoi and Silvia Egidi -. He was waiting for a different answer from Justice but, it is evident, it is not so ».
The scandal and retirement A few weeks after the scandal of the "guard of Amanda Knox" Raffaele Argirò has accelerated the time of retirement. In his diaries the American had described the policeman as a man "fixed with sex". As reported by the English tabloid The Sun, the young Seattle woman, detained four years in Capanne and then definitively acquitted by the murder of Meredith Kercher, wrote in a memorial: "At night he summoned me to the third floor in an empty office for a chat. When I repeated to him that I knew nothing about Meredith's murder, he tried to talk to me about her or take me to the topic of sex. " In the book Waiting to be heard he added: "The warder asked me how many boys I had sex, as I liked to do, if I wanted to do it with him." These harassments are not included in the indictment because no complaint has ever been filed by Amanda, threatened only in words by the penitentiary agent of a lawsuit for defamation never advanced in the Prosecutor's Office. On the other hand, the accused responded to the accusations of the vigilant: "I have never even touched it with a finger, a man agent is not allowed to enter the female arm if not accompanied by a woman

http://www.umbria24.it/cronaca/peru...ata-di-violenza-sessuale-incassa-terzo-rinvio
 
The trial for rape of the former Deputy Commander of Capanne prison, Argiro, has been postponed yet again. This is the same man that Knox accused of sexually harassing her while in prison.

Google translation:



http://www.umbria24.it/cronaca/peru...ata-di-violenza-sessuale-incassa-terzo-rinvio

I suggest that this is another example of how the Italian judicial system will take measures such as delaying the trial of a police officer or other official in order to let the statute of limitations run out.

That is essentially what was done in the case of Mignini, charged with abuse of power in the Monster of Florence spin-off cases.
 
I suggest that this is another example of how the Italian judicial system will take measures such as delaying the trial of a police officer or other official in order to let the statute of limitations run out.

That is essentially what was done in the case of Mignini, charged with abuse of power in the Monster of Florence spin-off cases.

I can't say that thought hadn't crossed my mind. Let's see what happens with the trial of Napoleoni, too.
 
I suggest that this is another example of how the Italian judicial system will take measures such as delaying the trial of a police officer or other official in order to let the statute of limitations run out.

That is essentially what was done in the case of Mignini, charged with abuse of power in the Monster of Florence spin-off cases.

I do not believe that that is entirely true. Somewhere down the line, Mignini's abuse of office charge got to (I believe) Florence, and then it was ruled that Florence did not have the jurisdiction. THEN the statute of limitations passed.
 
I do not believe that that is entirely true. Somewhere down the line, Mignini's abuse of office charge got to (I believe) Florence, and then it was ruled that Florence did not have the jurisdiction. THEN the statute of limitations passed.

The trial proceeded in Florence. Mignini was convicted by the first-instance court.* Then it was found out, in the course of the appeal, by the Italian judicial authorities that there was a conflict of interest, because one or more of the Florence prosecutors had themselves been subject to investigation or accusation by Mignini (as part of the MoF spin-off). Thus, the trial needed to be moved to another jurisdiction. By the time the judicial authorities (claimed) to have discovered this conflict of interest (and shouldn't they have known this from the very beginning of the case?), and the case was transferred to Turin, the statute of limitations was nearly reached, so the case was dismissed to avoid violating the statute of limitations.**

Despite the apparent abuses of power by Mignini in the spin-off Monster of Florence cases, the Superior Council of the Judiciary decided that he had committed no violation of judicial ethics or law in that case.***

* "The Italian prosecutor who secured a 26-year murder conviction against American Amanda Knox last year was convicted Friday of abuse of office and illegal telephone tapping in an earlier murder case.

Giuliano Mignini, chief prosecutor in Knox’s trial for the 2007 killing of British student Meredith Kerchner in Perugia, was sentenced to one year and four months in prison for his role in the investigation of the “Monster of Florence” murders."

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...f-abuse-in-another-case-idUSTRE60L58020100122
Date of article: 22 Jan 2010

** "In November 2011, a Court of Appeals accepted his preliminary objection and annulled the previous conviction, also declaring the prosecution by Florentine magistrates illegitimate - since some of the Florence prosecutors were also the offended parties - and sent the investigation file to a prosecutor in Turin. The Prosecution General of Florence appealed against the decision at the Supreme Court, so factually blocking the transfer to Turin for at least another year. In February 2013 the Florence office lost their appeal and the Supreme Court ordered the investigation be moved to Turin. Mignini said "It took me 7 years to be right" In 2016, the court of Turin dropped the remaining charges due to statutory terms expiration."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini

*** "While the Italian justice system does not prosecute criminal allegations beyond statutory terms through penal courts, Italian Magistrates are still subjected to a judgement also by a disciplinary court of the High Council of the Judiciary (Consiglio Superiore della Magistratura, or CSM) which seeks to find out facts in the merits, even if the Magistrate has already been acquitted of criminal charges on technicalities, or when there is still reasonable doubt. In March 2017 the CSM disciplinary court acquitted Mignini of all allegations, and they found that in his conduct "there was no wrongdoing"."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini
 
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Numbers - as usual very thorough and far more accurate.

Also a better demonstration of how the Italian judiciary takes care of their own.
 
** "In November 2011, a Court of Appeals accepted his preliminary objection and annulled the previous conviction, also declaring the prosecution by Florentine magistrates illegitimate - since some of the Florence prosecutors were also the offended parties - and sent the investigation file to a prosecutor in Turin. The Prosecution General of Florence appealed against the decision at the Supreme Court, so factually blocking the transfer to Turin for at least another year. In February 2013 the Florence office lost their appeal and the Supreme Court ordered the investigation be moved to Turin. Mignini said "It took me 7 years to be right" In 2016, the court of Turin dropped the remaining charges due to statutory terms expiration."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini

*** "While the Italian justice system does not prosecute criminal allegations beyond statutory terms through penal courts, Italian Magistrates are still subjected to a judgement also by a disciplinary court of the High Council of the Judiciary (Consiglio Superiore della Magistratura, or CSM) which seeks to find out facts in the merits, even if the Magistrate has already been acquitted of criminal charges on technicalities, or when there is still reasonable doubt. In March 2017 the CSM disciplinary court acquitted Mignini of all allegations, and they found that in his conduct "there was no wrongdoing"."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Mignini



And of course it's entirely impossible that the wikipedia page for Mignini might have been *ahem* selectively edited by one or more people with a certain agenda........?
 
And of course it's entirely impossible that the wikipedia page for Mignini might have been *ahem* selectively edited by one or more people with a certain agenda........?

That much is clear. The armchair-detective guilter who Andrea Vogt outed in Florence tried to make some rapid fire edits to Mignini's Wiki page late last year. All were quickly reversed by mods.

It's why the only unfettered posting of factoids is at the hate sites.
 
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