Cont: The Trump Presidency Part IV

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Skeptic Ginger said:
It took you this long to figure that out?
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I figured it out at the beginning of the campaign; but I've also listened to people ever since latching onto every possible excuse to deny reality and insist that Trump isn't really a racist, but just happens to speak, act, and behave remarkably like one purely by unfortunate coincidence.
 
Checkmite said:
After today, I don't think it can credibly be denied any longer that Donald Trump is a racist; I not just in a "casual way", but to an extent that he allows it to inform his policy decisions as president.
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As far as most of the GOP are concerned, that's a desirable feature, not a bug....;)
 
Trumps reason for not visiting the UK

"Reason I canceled my trip to London is that I am not a big fan of the Obama Administration having sold perhaps the best located and finest embassy in London for “peanuts,” only to build a new one in an off location for 1.2 billion dollars. Bad deal. Wanted me to cut ribbon-NO!"

Erm, sale of US Embassy announced in 2008. Obama took office in 2009.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Trumps reason for not visiting the UK

"Reason I canceled my trip to London is that I am not a big fan of the Obama Administration having sold perhaps the best located and finest embassy in London for “peanuts,” only to build a new one in an off location for 1.2 billion dollars. Bad deal. Wanted me to cut ribbon-NO!"

Erm.Sale of US Embassy announced in 2008. Obama took office in 2009.
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Facts-schmacts :rolleyes:

In any case, although the decision to sell was taken in 2009, there may have been some movement on price since then because of the decision to grant the old embassy building listed status:

n November 2009, the U.S. government conditionally agreed to sell the Grosvenor Square Chancery Building to Qatari real-estate investment firm Qatari Diar, which in 2007 purchased the Chelsea Barracks. Though the price was undisclosed, the building's worth was estimated at £500 million in July 2000. The development value of the property was reduced when the building was given Grade II listed status, requiring developers to maintain its current design.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States,_London

Of course even if the Bush administration did agree the price, it's still the Obama administration's fault for not attempting to shakedown the developers for a better price.

President Trump has tried similar re-negotiation tactics since he has been in office, with predictably poor results. What works for a seedy-cheesy New York property developer (bilking and stiffing partners and suppliers) doesn't work when you're running with the international Big Dogs...:rolleyes:
 
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He seems to be claiming that to get back at Obama he is cancelling a visit to a country that is supposed to be a big ally and close friend of America.

Well done Don.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
He seems to be claiming that to get back at Obama he is cancelling a visit to a country that is supposed to be a big ally and close friend of America.

Well done Don.
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That’s one thing President Dimwit and God both have in common - they both move in mysterious ways.
 
The White House has issued a statement in response to Trump's "********" remark

In a statement, the White House did not deny the account, instead highlighting Trump’s hardline immigration stance.

“Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people,” said Raj Shah, a White House spokesman. “Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.”

He added that Trump will “always reject temporary, weak and dangerous stopgap measures that threaten the lives of hardworking Americans, and undercut immigrants who seek a better life in the United States through a legal pathway”.
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The Southern Poverty Law Centre has annotated it
 
Also this: https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/951630429081292800

I just talked to Haiti’s Ambassador to the United States Paul Altidor who said he and the Haitian government “vehemently condemn” President Trump’s comments which they believe are “based on stereotypes.” “Either the president has been misinformed or he is miseducated.”
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https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/951630429081292800

Haiti’s US Ambassador Paul Altidor tells me Haiti’s government has formerly summoned a US official to explain Trump’s comments to Haiti’s officials. “Haitians fought along US soldiers in the revolutionary war and we continue to be great contributors to American society,” he said
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Foolmewunz said:
Oh, horse hockey! Your if is put to the test with his first tightening of immigration and visas. A direct target to Muslim countries... all citizens thereof, and many very well-educated ones.

Mumbles will recall the old standard: What do Mississippians call a black MIT graduate with a PhD in Molecular Biology? A ******, of course.
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Heard it lots of times before, and it's proven to be true with some (though I'd say, not even close to most at this point) people.

(And forumites should note... you let in Norwegians and pretty soon Hawk_One will be applying. Oh, wait.....)

As anyone who's worked in a multinational company with a diverse ethnic work force in the USA can tell you, the most overqualified people, largely due to degrees not being recognized, are the people from the Indian sub-continent. India doesn't compare in percentages to the USA but there are, by number, 70,000,000 college grads there, 4% of whom are unemployed.

Let's see how they word the rules to make sure to exclude those people. (They ain't Muslim, for the most part. They'll have to come up with some other excuse.)
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I haven't worked for companies with major presences outside of the US, but this wouldn't exactly shock me. I tend to restrict my discussions to the US, because simply put, I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to the world outside of it. But the talk of favoring "people who can easily assimilate" for immigration absolutely reeks of the white nationalism of Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon - it's exactly the "darkies refuse to live like us" style of racism you see from people who, themselves, are openly bigoted against nonwhite people.

Minoosh said:
I am one of those literal-minded pedants who cringe a little when remarks like Trump's are strongly characterized as racism. Though racism may well be at the root of the remarks, slurring people based on national origin or religion is not exactly the same thing as slurring people based on race.
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That sounds nice, until you realize that he also openly advocates discrimination against black and brown natural-born US citizens - see Judge Curiel, President Obama, the Central Park 5, and the residents of Puerto Rico, all of which I already pointed out. There's also his advocacy for a nationwide campaign of police harassment of black people (ie. "Stop and Frisk"), his open use of anti-Native American slurs, his public feuds with black American athletes, and his filling advisory roles as well as the AG chair with outright white nationalists and segregationists.

And that's still not all of it.

It's obvious that his disgust against certain countries is based on his white supremacism, rather than some mysterious independent factor. Yes, it's not an iron clad proof, but it's certainly far more than enough to come to a real-world conclusion - particularly when he does absolutely nothing to show that he treats people equally regardless of race.
 
Trump backs down from visiting the UK. The reason is he thinks the sale of the old US embassy was a bad deal. That is the most pathetic excuse ever and it is so see through;

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...london-called-off-amid-fears-of-mass-protests

"The president claimed on Twitter that the reason for calling off the trip was his displeasure at Barack Obama having sold the current embassy for “peanuts” and built a replacement for $1bn (£750m). “Bad deal,” he wrote."
 
Mumbles said:
That sounds nice, until you realize that he also openly advocates discrimination against black and brown natural-born US citizens - see Judge Curiel, President Obama, the Central Park 5, and the residents of Puerto Rico, all of which I already pointed out. There's also his advocacy for a nationwide campaign of police harassment of black people (ie. "Stop and Frisk"), his open use of anti-Native American slurs, his public feuds with black American athletes, and his filling advisory roles as well as the AG chair with outright white nationalists and segregationists.

And that's still not all of it.
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One more example of the "all of it" is the fact he was sued back in 1973 by the Justice Department for his company's policy of only renting to white people.
 
I won't even ask "how stupid does he think people are" because his moron supporters will fall for it. Starting with Fox News.

Hint: this is not a new development, so if it were an issue he wouldn't have booked it in the first place.
 
NoahFence said:
what makes it racist, dear ignorant writer, is that he asks why we're not taking people in from say, Norway.

There is only one real difference. And if you can't see it and acknowledge it, you're part of the problem.
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Haiti. Norway. Only one real difference? Is that sanitation? GDP? That an immigrant would be leaving a well provided welfare state rather than going to a more generous welfare system?

He's said plenty of outrageous things, but this ain't one of them.
 
“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Wretched refuse.

Sounds like taking in immigrants from ******** countries was once an ideal.

Before Trump, of course.
 
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