Cont: The Trump Presidency Part IV

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ponderingturtle said:
Naa, they were fine with his racism and corruption, it was the sexually assaulting women that fired up the minority vote to prevent him from winning. Whites still loved him of course.
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Yep. The only thing the GOP and Trumpublicans learned is that they need to suppress the minority vote more.
 
Civet said:
So who's Trump going to endorse in Arizona now that Arpaio's in the mix? I know he'd been keen on Ward.
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Wow, that could be another disaster for the republicans (like the Moore/Jones election.)

Arpaio gets nominated: Huge latino community backlash
Another republican gets nominated: some of the more racist republicans nat not vote because Arpaio wasn't nominated

Either way, its going to be a bit messy for the republicans, since having Arpaio's name in the media will probably cause latinos to vote democrate more than they might have otherwise (much like Jones won thanks to the African American vote), and not just in Arizona.

McCain did win the senate seat by over 10%, but he was a well known/long term senator. And Trump did win the state in the presidential election, but his margin of victory was very small, and he likely doesn't have much political capital to use in support of whomever becomes the candidate. (Last summer polls put Trump's support in the low 40s, and pardoning Arpaio may not have been very popular.)

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...s-approval-arizona-dips-42-percent/588039001/
 
ponderingturtle said:
Good to see that republicans will have more chance to show how corrupt and racist they truely are. He sounds like a shoe in for the nomination.
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It's like a contest to see how low they can go. I really thought Roy Moore would be the bottom, but man.

Is there any way the hair doesn't offer his full-throated support?
 
BobTheCoward said:
How is it a lack of education? Nothing about being well educated should affect a sense a faith.
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The bible makes sense if you view it from the perspective of a tribe of illiterate goat herders in the bronze age. The worldview is quite... limited, and descriptions of the world make more sense if you just assume that the world is generally flat - even down to where the waters of the Flood went.

Ignorance and superstition often go together. If you don't know about germ theory, Apollo's arrows of disease are as good an emotional explanation as anything.

A lack of education is likely to lead to more magical thinking. Especially if it is coupled with wilful ignorance.
 
BobTheCoward said:
How is it a lack of education? Nothing about being well educated should affect a sense a faith.
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Do you mean there's no inherent contradiction between being educated and being a person of faith? The "should" throws me.

The prevalence of ignorance could very well affect a person's susceptibility to superstition. That's a clunky sentence, but I think it's true. I'm not writing all religion off as superstition, but plenty of people do see religion that way.
 
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jimbob said:
How is it a lack of education? Nothing about being well educated should affect a sense a faith.
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The bible makes sense if you view it from the perspective of a tribe of illiterate goat herders in the bronze age. The worldview is quite... limited, and descriptions of the world make more sense if you just assume that the world is generally flat - even down to where the waters of the Flood went.

Ignorance and superstition often go together. If you don't know about germ theory, Apollo's arrows of disease are as good an emotional explanation as anything.

A lack of education is likely to lead to more magical thinking. Especially if it is coupled with wilful ignorance.
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Its should also be noted that its not just a belief in god (i.e. faith) which is an issue.... its that these people believe in a "prosperity gospel" (i.e. donate to your church and you will become wealthy). Such a concept isn't even in the bible that these people claim to believe in.

If these people claimed "I believe in god", and spent their time doing charity work (i.e. the type of thing that the mythical jebus would have wanted) it probably wouldn't be as much of an issue. At least they'd be paying attention to what the bible actually said.

But instead they double down on their stupidity, not only believing in god (for which there is no evidence) but falling for an obvious scam artist (i.e. the preachers who are wealthy).
 
Minoosh said:
Do you mean there's no inherent contradiction between being educated and being a person of faith? The "should" throws me.

The prevalence of ignorance could very well affect a person's susceptibility to superstition. That's a clunky sentence, but I think it's true. I'm not writing all religion off as superstition, but plenty of people do see religion that way.
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I simply see nothing wrong with taking something on faith as long as you admit it is an act of faith. I don't do it personally.
 
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