Cont: The Trump Presidency Part IV

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carlosy said:
Well, either Trump is just really dump and ignorant and simply doesn't care about the implications of his tweets.

Or he does care, but just in a way that his tweets are aimed at two things:
- His followers, who get a boner about tweets like bigger button etc.
- The media and the establishment, who is getting hysteric.
Which in return is getting his followers another boner, because they love when media and establishment hates their messiah.
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His tweets are just a reaction to what he sees on Fox.
 
Childlike Empress said:
a) he's sitting in the White House
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From the Wolff book:

Still, here was the basic faith, overriding his impetuousness and eccentricities and limited knowledge base: nobody became the president of the United States—that camel-through-the-eye-of-the-needle accomplishment—without unique astuteness and cunning. Right? In the early days of the White House, this was the fundamental hypothesis of the senior staff, shared by Walsh and everyone else: Trump must know what he was doing, his intuition must be profound.
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There are some critical thinking red flags that Wolff is hinting at there. You’re falling victim to those problems, yourself. (Assuming you aren’t Poe’ing, for which I think there is mounting evidence.)
 
Upchurch said:
From the Wolff book:



There are some critical thinking red flags that Wolff is hinting at there. You’re falling victim to those problems, yourself. (Assuming you aren’t Poe’ing, for which I think there is mounting evidence.)
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You don't have to be smart or good to be a successful bully.
 
Stacko said:
His tweets are just a reaction to what he sees on Fox.
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There is no such thing as just a reaction to anything.

1) He chooses to watch only (or primarily) Fox.
2) He chooses to react by tweeting,
3) and there's a certain obvious theme to many (maybe even most; I haven't read all of them) of his themes,
4) and there's an obvious connection between the three things:
a) He prefers Fox because they idolize him.
b) When he tweets, his main concern is to praise himself and his (alleged) accomplishments and to denigrate whoever dares to criticize him.

It may actually be true that he never seriously wanted to become the POTUS. He probably didn't seriously consider the implications of running for office, but once he was in the campaign his personality wouldn't allow him to back out or lose. Now he and the rest of the USA are stuck with his presidency.

If somebody can come up with a way of making him retire 'honorably', of handing over the reins to somebody else in a way that makes it appear as if he isn't giving up, as if he isn't weak, as if he isn't a loser, he might reward them generously.
 
He says

"Ronald Reagan had the same problem and handled it well. So will I!"

Alzheimers?
 
Mumbles said:
...The only real reason I doubt that the folks at Fox News do the same is that so many of their public faces are so clearly stupid or deranged - Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy, Sean Hannity, the judge woman that always talks like Macho Man Randy Savage..
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Off-topic, I know but the judge is Jeanine Pirro from Westchester County NY, a suburban county north of New York City. She seems typical of the arrogant self-entitled dregs who idolize the Trumpster:
Jeanine Pirro, a former district attorney who hosts Justice With Judge Jeanine, got a speeding ticket Sunday [Nov. 19th] in New York state when police caught her going 119 mph in a 65-mph zone, the New York Daily News reported. She said in a statement that she was going to see her elderly mother and hadn't realized she was driving so fast. news link
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I'd certainly hate to be in her way when she's going to visit her Ma. I have a hunch she's probably not a particularity courteous driver. ;)
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Apes.
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I didn't "get" the Gorilla Channel parody until I read an anecdote from the 90s. It seems Trump's favorite move is Bloodsport and he once wanted to watch the 90-minute movie on a 45-minute flight, so he had Eric fast-forward past all the story-line dialogue so he could just watch the fight scenes.
 
WilliamSeger said:
I didn't "get" the Gorilla Channel parody until I read an anecdote from the 90s. It seems Trump's favorite move is Bloodsport and he once wanted to watch the 90-minute movie on a 45-minute flight, so he had Eric fast-forward past all the story-line dialogue so he could just watch the fight scenes.
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To be fair, I doubt that people watch Bloodsport for the plot and characterisation.

And Van Damme's acting ability partly explains why Schwarzenegger was the bigger star.
 
jimbob said:
To be fair, I doubt that people watch Bloodsport for the plot and characterisation.

And Van Damme's acting ability partly explains why Schwarzenegger was the bigger star.
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True enough, which makes it hard to understand how that could be any normal person's favorite movie.
 
WilliamSeger said:
True enough, which makes it hard to understand how that could be any normal person's favorite movie.
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You obviously can't understand the mind of a stable genius. (I think it might be something to do with starting a building to keep horses)

If you look at Bloodsport with the eyes of such a genius you see that it is in-fact a damming critique of the Western stereotypes of the Orient as a mysterious place with ancient masters of mystical arts but in a whimsical and ultimately charming manner that makes one ponder the essential message of the fim and feel uplifted at the end

Sorry, you are right, although I might have been right about the feeling uplifted at the end... until you realise there is a sequel.
 
Stacko said:
His tweets are just a reaction to what he sees on Fox.
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Fox is probably triggering him to tweet, yes. But I think his goal is still to cater to his followers and as a byproduct to constantly keep him in the news. And the only way o stay in the news is via bad news, scandals etc. (to the fake media and the establishment).

He needs his publicity.
Imagine no one what talk about him, like not at all. No one would care about his tweets, CNN wouldn't mention him all day long. Ok, he still has Fox. But imagine even Fox wouldn't care.

That would drive him really crazy.
 
carlosy said:
Fox is probably triggering him to tweet, yes. But I think his goal is still to cater to his followers and as a byproduct to constantly keep him in the news. And the only way o stay in the news is via bad news, scandals etc. (to the fake media and the establishment).

He needs his publicity.
Imagine no one what talk about him, like not at all. No one would care about his tweets, CNN wouldn't mention him all day long. Ok, he still has Fox. But imagine even Fox wouldn't care.

That would drive him really crazy.
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There's no strategy just self-gratifying reaction.

Stacko said:
The Fox/Trump feedback loop is strong.
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carlosy said:
Fox is probably triggering him to tweet, yes. But I think his goal is still to cater to his followers and as a byproduct to constantly keep him in the news. And the only way o stay in the news is via bad news, scandals etc. (to the fake media and the establishment).

He needs his publicity.
Imagine no one what talk about him, like not at all. No one would care about his tweets, CNN wouldn't mention him all day long. Ok, he still has Fox. But imagine even Fox wouldn't care.

That would drive him really crazy.
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Stacko said:
There's no strategy just self-gratifying reaction.
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I don't think you are disagreeing. His goal seems to be attention and external recognition. That is not really a strategy. It did help get him elected, but that was no more a strategic decision but just what he is. One might as well say that Clinton made a strategic decision to be a woman.
 
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