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So in simple words.....you can't find any press release by any US government department concerning the video that appeared on You-tube. I already knew that. :)

And, speaking of what U.S. Navy pilots encountered, let's take a look at what Chilean Naval pilots encountered.

Groundbreaking UFO Video Just Released By Chilean Navy

An exceptional nine-minute Navy video of a UFO displaying highly unusual behavior, studied by Chilean authorities for the last two years, is now being released to the public.

The CEFAA - the Chilean government agency which investigates UFOs, or UAP (unidentified aerial phenomena), has been in charge of the investigation. Located within the DGAC, the equivalent of our FAA but under the jurisdiction of the Chilean Air Force, CEFAA has committees of military experts, technicians and academics from many disciplines. None of them have been able to explain the strange flying object captured by two experienced Navy officers from a helicopter.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ased-from-chilean_us_586d37bce4b014e7c72ee56b
 
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None of that proves aliens. It just proves we cannot identity what they are.


We can definitely state that the objects are flying vehicles exhibiting advanced technology unknown to mankind and with that, we can rule out mankind as owners of those flying objects. That is why the Air Force stated in 1948 that the objects in question are, in the Air Force's own words, "Interplanetary Spaceships." That was reconfirmed in the Air Force's 1952 intelligence report. In some cases, the objects were tagged as Unauthorized Flying Objects (IFO) as in the case of the flying saucer in the Coyote Canyon landing where the object knocked out radar systems in New Mexico and the interference was traced to the area of Coyote Canyon where security personnel saw the IFO land. Here is something else that people were unaware of.


Conclusion UFOs Are Space Ships Given SAC in 1952

A 1952 evaluation of "flying saucers" as interplanetary devices, sent to Strategic Air Command Headquarters from MacDill AFB, has been disclosed to NICAP by former information Specialist Don Widener, one of the AF men concurring in this opinion.

http://www.nicap.org/conclusion.htm


Another report concurred.


MANEUVERED MOTION AND "INTELLIGENT CONTROL

It concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships." Air Force analysts had reached this conclusion before. Project Sign in 1948 had issued a Top Secret Estimate of the Situation drawing the same conclusion.


So what we have is the U. S. military confirming the objects are 'Interplanetary Spaceships', which coincides with the U.S. Army's 'Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit (IPU). The U.S. Army later confirmed the existence of the IPU due to a request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The U.S. Air Force now has custody of the IPU's files.

When the Air Force says that it was a weather balloon, how many people believes the Air Force's explanation? Let's take a look here.


How the Air Force covers up UFO encounters.

http://www.lynceans.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Figure-2-from-How-to-Make-a-FLYOBRPT-1024x845.png


Speaking of weather balloons;


BRIG.-GENERAL ARTHUR EXON
Former Commanding Officer of Wright-Patterson AFB

R&S2) "We heard the material was coming to Wright Field. [Testing was done in the various labs.] Everything from chemical analysis, stress tests, compression tests, flexing. It was brought into our material evaluation labs. I don't know how it arrived, but the boys who tested it said it was very unusual." “...Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space."
DR. ROBERT SARBACHER
Sarbacher was a physicist and industrial scientist who acted as a consultant with the U.S. Department of Defense Research and Development Board (RDB).

That fabric we obtained at Roswell had molecular welds so small you couldn't even identify what they were until the sixties, when the microscopes to do it became available. ...What I can be certain about is that it was not produced by any technology we were aware of in 1947, or now."

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If post after post of pointless walls of irrelevant text and scans of photocopies of long and repeatedly debunked BS was proof of the existence of alien spacecraft, then skyeagle409's work is done.

Over here, in the real world, repeating the same BS over and over doesn't make any of it true.
 
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So in simple words.....you can't find any press release by any US government department concerning the video that appeared on You-tube. I already knew that. :)
Who do you think approves the release of gun footage videos?
The Department of Defence clearly stated it never released any UFO video to anyone. You got conned again.


You are just a poor bloke who is being conned by Luis Elizondo and Tom Delonge to invest in their new UFO chasing company : To the Stars Academy Ltd. :D
https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/

Would you like to know who handed the new fake F-18 video to the New York Times? (Hint : He's trying to raise money)
 
The Department of Defence clearly stated it never released any UFO video to anyone. You got conned again.


Apparently, you are incorrect. Check it out.

Pentagon releases video of Navy jets chasing UFO

As US Department of Defense discloses info on shadowy program, pilot recalls mysterious object that 'accelerated like nothing I’ve ever seen'

The Pentagon has acknowledged funding a secret multi-million dollar program to investigate sightings of UFOs and released video from a fighter jet that encountered a so-far unexplained object.
Video released by the US Department of Defence (DoD) shows Navy pilots reacting with astonishment as they tracked the whitish oval as it glided above the Pacific Ocean.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ots-footage-unidentified-object-a8116356.html


The former head of the Pentagon’s secret UFO-hunting bureau has said he believes “we may not be alone”.

Luis Elizondo’s admission came after declassified footage showed US fighter pilots reacting with astonishment as they observed an unknown aerial object off California in 2014.

"These aircraft -- we'll call them aircraft -- are displaying characteristics that are not currently within the US inventory nor in any foreign inventory that we are aware of," Elizondo said of objects they researched.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/18/politics/luis-elizondo-ufo-pentagon/index.html
 
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Looks like an artefact to me, not like any kind of locked target I've ever seen on a HUD, and I have seen plenty.

When I see this video posted on a US government website, I might be more favourably disposed. As it is, its on a UK newspaper site... The Independent no less... well colour me surprised... it might as well be on the Daily Flail!
 
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If post after post of pointless walls of irrelevant text and scans of photocopies of long and repeatedly debunked BS was proof of the existence of alien spacecraft, then skyeagle409's work is done.


False comment on your part because at no time has anyone debunked the UFO incidents I have reported and I will challenge anyone to prove the UFO cases did not occur as presented by me.

Just to let you know that it isn't that difficult to use the FOIA to confirm that what I have said are true and I know much more about what has been going on in the skies, within the atmosphere and beneath the seas because I know how to gather such information. Here is another example and I will take you to the National Security Agency (NSA) to reveal what you were unaware of, and that is:

NSA Technical Manual
Vol XIV
FOIA Case number 41472
Key to the Extraterrestrial Messages


Extraterrestrial signals from deep space have been detected for years and the government never revealed that fact to the public and it took the FOIA to reveal what the government didn't report to the media. Perhaps, you should do a review of SETI's Frank Drake when he stated during his NBC-TV interview that he "could be part of a cover-up."
BTW, one of the documents I've presented regarding the Iranian UFO encounter can also be found at the National Security Agency and you will notice the White House in the distribution list. The documents have also been presented by the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Department of Defense and a DSP satellite watched the encounter between UFOs and the Iranian F-4 Phantoms.

Once again, that incident would not have been revealed had it not been for a lawsuit against the CIA years ago, whereas, that incident was revealed. Since then, the CIA released more of its declassified UFO files over the years.
 
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Looks like an artefact to me, not like any kind of locked target I've ever seen on a HUD, and I have seen plenty.

When I see this video posted on a US government website, I might be more favourably disposed. As it is, its on a UK newspaper site... The Independent no less... well colour me surprised... it might as well be on the Daily Flail!


There are many things that you will not find available on government websites in regards to UFOs and that is why it is important to make a request to government agencies under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Let's go to the website of the National Security Agency (NSA) and take a look at documents that were revealed after the lawsuit against the CIA and notice the Department of Defense heading on these UFO documents. After reading those documents, I would like for you to tell us what occurred when military jets encountered those UFOs and remember, this incident made its way up to the White House.

https://www.nsa.gov/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/assets/files/routing_slip_ufo_iran.pdf


To make sure you are paying attention, did the following government document in the following link disclose that Air Force sources at Malmstrom AFB reported UFOs in the area and noted that a UFO landed and mentions a UFO landing report from Deputies of the Cascade County Sheriff's Office?

The Link

https://archive.org/stream/Malmstro...ent – March 16, 1967 reports#page/n0/mode/2up


You should have noticed the name: Lt. Col. Lewis Chase on that document along with his contact information. Let me present a video of his UFO encounter. He was the Air Force pilot whose RB-47 was tracked by a UFO over multiple states.

UFO Encounter of Lt. Col. Lewis Chase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaBBA3gkZTc
 
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List of Countries That Have Also Disclosed Alien and UFO Documents

1. Argentina
2. Australia
3. Brazil
4. Canada
5. Chile
6. China
7. Denmark
8. Finland
9. France
10. Germany
11. India
12. Ireland
13. Japan
14. Mexico
15. New Zealand (Additional Report)
16. Peru
17. Russia
18. Spain
19. Sweden
20. Ukraine (not in English)
21. United Nations
22. United Kingdom
23. Uruguay
24. Vatican City
 
Here is the caption from the video in the New York Times article:
"A video shows a 2004 encounter near San Diego between two Navy F/A-18F fighter jets and an unknown object. It was released by the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. By Courtesy of U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE on Publish Date December 16, 2017. Photo by U.S Department of Defense. "

The article originated from the New York Times, the story was featured not only in the paper but also on their daily podcast. On the podcast, the NYT pentagon correspondent, a Pulitzer prize winner and co-author of the story, verifies Elizondo's identity. So, while it is possible the NYT is being hoaxed ( the involvement of Leslie Keane means that hoax is a possibility) , one would hope that Cooke and Blumenthal, the other Pulitzer Prize winner that co-authored this piece, would rule out hoax before writing the story and that the editorial staff would thoroughly vet the story prior to publication. But perhaps I'm too trusting of the quality of their process.

Aside from the practical difficulties in space travel etc, I don't believe that this is evidence that UFOs have an extraterrestrial source based on the simple fact that the DOD allowed the release of the video. However, the NYT didn't attribute the phenomena on the video to artifact, and if it isn't artifact then what might it be?
 
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70 years of all the countries in the world (through the most turbulent changes for many countries, and countries lierally ceasing to exist and new ones being created) and every single one of them has decided to keep the information secret. But a FOIA request revealed the truth...

Pull the other one.
 
Here is the caption from the video in the New York Times article:
"A video shows a 2004 encounter near San Diego between two Navy F/A-18F fighter jets and an unknown object. It was released by the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. By Courtesy of U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE on Publish Date December 16, 2017. Photo by U.S Department of Defense. "

The article originated from the New York Times, the story was featured not only in the paper but also on their daily podcast. On the podcast, the NYT pentagon correspondent, a Pulitzer prize winner and co-author of the story, verifies Elizondo's identity. So, while it is possible the NYT is being hoaxed ( the involvement of Leslie Keane means that hoax is a possibility) , one would hope that Cooke and Blumenthal, the other Pulitzer Prize winner that co-authored this piece, would rule out hoax before writing the story and that the editorial staff would thoroughly vet the story prior to publication. But perhaps I'm too trusting of the quality of their process.

Aside from the practical difficulties in space travel etc, I don't believe that this is evidence that UFOs have an extraterrestrial source based on the simple fact that the DOD allowed the release of the video. However, the NYT didn't attribute the phenomena on the video to artifact, and if it isn't artifact then what might it be?

How many of these Pulitzer Prize winning journalists have any personal experience with Fighter Aircraft missile and gunnery radar, FLIR tracking or HUDs.? None I'll bet.

This object does NOT act like any kind of locked on target on a HUD that I have ever seen. The fact that it remains EXACTLY fixed in the same place on the display literally screams artefact, i.e., something either in the display itself (unlikely since the TD box is locked onto it) or something being generated by the input processing circuits of the HUD computer.

With a real-world target, the object moves on the display with minor attitude changes of the pursuing aircraft (especially if it is turning to follow the target). This is because there is always some level of turbulence and shifting of air currents in the atmosphere, and even the most subtle turbulence causes the aircraft to roll, pitch or yaw. This means the pilot has to compensate for the attitude changes, and in turn causes the target to shift back on the display; the TD box then tracks it on the display as it moves. The pilot hasn't yet been born who can keep a target at EXACTLY the same point on the HUD the way this "target" appears.

I have absolutely NO doubt whatsoever that this is an artefact
 
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Denmark is on the list of countries that have disclosed documents of UFO encounters? That is of interest to me because I am a Dane, and I can assure you that this disclosure is a well-kept secret! If you can point me in the right direction, I would like to see the disclosure, and I speak the language so there will be no problems of translation.
 
Denmark is on the list of countries that have disclosed documents of UFO encounters? That is of interest to me because I am a Dane, and I can assure you that this disclosure is a well-kept secret! If you can point me in the right direction, I would like to see the disclosure, and I speak the language so there will be no problems of translation.

This is a good point. Canada is also on the list and there are all sorts of stories about UFOs floating around Canada.
GOVERNMENT CHIEF'S DEATH BED CONFESSION: 'I was shown inside alien UFO at Area 51'
But unless the hundreds of Canadians that I know have somehow systematically missed this, belief that UFOs are linked to alien life is still pretty much linked to nutbars.
 
List of Countries That Have Also Disclosed Alien and UFO Documents

1. Argentina
2. Australia
3. Brazil
4. Canada
5. Chile
6. China
7. Denmark
8. Finland
9. France
10. Germany
11. India
12. Ireland
13. Japan
14. Mexico
15. New Zealand (Additional Report)
16. Peru
17. Russia
18. Spain
19. Sweden
20. Ukraine (not in English)
21. United Nations
22. United Kingdom
23. Uruguay
24. Vatican City

Which of these countries have disclosed contact with extraterrestrial beings or claimed what the saw came from a planet other than earth? UFO and extraterrestrial are not the same thing.
 
That is totally false and in fact, I have even tied the data with the F-16's radar images that were released by the Belgian Air Force, so in that respect, there is no basis for what you have stated, especially when the lead F-16 pilot involved in the incident confirmed what I have presented.

You are simply reinforcing my point about not having learned anything from your previous ventures into this area.

Here is the link to the thread in which your Belgian story was debunked, including the analysis of the radar data showing it was, in itself internally inconsistent, and did, as I said, lead to the conclusion that the UFOs must have been flying underground at some point:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11930720#post11930720

Rather than modify your ideas, I note that you abandoned this thread a day after members here began pointing out the problems with this data. I suggest you- and anyone else who is interested- have another look at this thread, rather than us having to go over the same ground again.
 

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