Ed The Miracles Continue ...

[Emre_1974tr]

Wrong.
It was first compiled after his death from notes on bones, leaves etc.
The 1st Khaliph ordered it's compillation to Zeyd bin Sabit.
And during the 3rd Khaliph those copies were ordered to be destroyed to be re-written.

Do you swear to that?

Look at what the verses and the proofs say, leaving the memorized memories to you.

The Quran was in the book while the Prophet was alive.

 

[winter salt]

Do you swear to that?

Look at what the verses and the proofs say, leaving the memorized memories to you.

The Quran was in the book while the Prophet was alive.

I repeat. (You are the one who is trying to stay muslim. Go read it. Ask imams.)

It was first compiled after his death from notes on bones, leaves etc. (According to one of his wives -Aisha, who was his wife at the age of 6- the verse that had the order of stoning the adulterers were eaten by a goat from under her bed. Thus it's still an order without a written verse in the Quran). Check it out from islamic sources.
The 1st Khaliph ordered it's compillation to Zeyd bin Sabit.
And during the 3rd Khaliph those copies were ordered to be destroyed to be re-written.

I will swear on whatever you want buddy. You are the most ignorant and arrogant muslim I have ever seen. Why do you post lies people can with a simple google search expose? What's wrong with you.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

I want to speak to those who read the forum.

You've seen how angry the Christian missionaries in various disguises are in the face of reality.

Read everything I write, you will see the facts.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

I repeat. (You are the one who is trying to stay muslim. Go read it. Ask imams.)

.

There are no imams in Islamic religion.

Leave these lies.

Go to the truth, to the Qur'an and to the evidence.

 

[winter salt]

I want to speak to those who read the forum.

You've seen how angry the Christian missionaries in various disguises are in the face of reality.

Read everything I write, you will see the facts.

Stop keep attacking people here. There are very few maybe no people who need to hide here. And so what if a Christian missionary is writing here, openly or clandestinely.. is that wrong?
Why don't you focus on the rebuttals of your illogical claims instead?

 

[Emre_1974tr]

AGAIN;

Real İslam is only in Quran

http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/9214-real-slam-is-only-in-quran/

 

[winter salt]

There are no imams in Islamic religion.
Leave these lies.

You are an ignorant liar yourself.
Muslims always had imams. All sects of them.
There are imams everywhere, and Quran orders obeying them. e.g. Quran 4/83

And why do you ignore thread #730? I already ripped your badge of muslimhood there. Go repent !

 

[halleyscomet]

I want to speak to those who read the forum.

You've seen how angry the Christian missionaries in various disguises are in the face of reality.

Read everything I write, you will see the facts.

Wow.

You came to a skepticism site full of atheists and agnostics and proceeded to dismiss everyone calling out your lies and ignorance as "christian missionaries."

That's a whole new level of failure.

There are no imams in Islamic religion.

Leave these lies.

Go to the truth, to the Qur'an and to the evidence.

Nonsense. I was raised as an LCMS Lutheran. I had a very good grounding in the history of Christian theology. The Koran is demonstrably wrong in its claims about Christian theology. Why should I give a wet dog fat for what it says, when it's so easily proven wrong on other topics?

 

[aleCcowaN]

I want to speak to those who read the forum.

You've seen how angry the Christian missionaries in various disguises are in the face of reality.

Read everything I write, you will see the facts.

You're already speaking to them. They're us!

You're totally deluded if you think that people will flock here to read your shenanigans and they'll fall on their knees in awe because of your "sapience" and the "sacred truth" that it pretends to represent.

You're not behaving like the "toast of the forum". More like the "roast", instead.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

You are an ignorant liar yourself.
Muslims always had imams. All sects of them.
There are imams everywhere, and Quran orders obeying them. e.g. Quran 4/83

Stop acting and lie,

 

[halleyscomet]

There are no imams in Islamic religion

You are an ignorant liar yourself.
Muslims always had imams. All sects of them.
There are imams everywhere, and Quran orders obeying them. e.g. Quran 4/83

I don't think we're dealing with an actual Muslim in this thread. I'm starting to think Emre_1974tr is a #MAGA #TrumpTrain fan-girl trying to make Muslims look bad.

 

[winter salt]

AGAIN;

Real İslam is only in Quran

http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/9214-real-slam-is-only-in-quran/

Edip Yuksel (one of whose books I read in 1987) was excommunicated by his own well-respected-islamic-scholar-father. And deserves death penalty under the Sharia law. His ideas had been proven un-islamic in numerous debates. In his view of islam there are many many problems he is not telling you about. Watch his debate with hadith people on you tube. Search it, you'll see it for yourself. His ideology has been defeated by the traditional muslims' ideology (as being un-islamic).

 

[aleCcowaN]

There are no imams in Islamic religion

You are an ignorant liar yourself.
Muslims always had imams. All sects of them.
There are imams everywhere, and Quran orders obeying them. e.g. Quran 4/83

I don't think we're dealing with an actual Muslim in this thread. I'm starting to think Emre_1974tr is a #MAGA #TrumpTrain fan-girl trying to make Muslims look bad.

I was thinking along those lines myself! Here comes some evidence.

Hey, Emre, this is what imam means in Turkish:

1. imam, prayer leader.
2. imam, one of the twelve divinely inspired leaders of the Shi'a.
3. imam, a leader regarded as a successor to the Twelve Imams: İmam Humeyni.
4. imam, a founder of one of the orthodox schools of Islamic law: İmam Şafii.
5. imam, a respected Islamic theological sage: İmam Gazali.
6. Imam (a title of the caliph).

imam evi colloq. prison for women.

imam hatip okulu secondary school for the training of Islamic religious personnel.

imamın/

imam kayığı slang coffin.

imamın kayığına binmek slang to die, kick the bucket.

imam nikâhı wedding performed by an imam.

imam osurursa, cemaat sıçar. proverb If a leader makes a small mistake, his followers will then make big mistakes.

imam suyu slang raki.

Are also Turkish dictionaries wrong?

 

[aleCcowaN]

Edip Yuksel (one of whose books I read in 1987) was excommunicated by his own well-respected-islamic-scholar-father. And deserves death penalty under the Sharia law. His ideas had been proven un-islamic in numerous debates. In his view of islam there are many many problems he is not telling you about. Watch his debate with hadith people on you tube. Search it, you'll see it for yourself. His ideology has been defeated by the traditional muslims' ideology (as being un-islamic).

It's a pleasure to read your posts.

 

[winter salt]

It's a pleasure to read your posts.

Hey, thank you.
I am starting to feel my youth was not altogether wasted on that crop.
If I had been told back than that "some atheists in a couple of decades' time will enjoy your unti-islamic writings" I would have had immidiately joined the Afgan war..


(Not sure of that grammar in the last sentence, but you know what I mean.)

 

[Emre_1974tr]

11- Then He turned to the heavens, and it was in a gaseous state.
And said to it, and the earth;
“Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly.”
They said, “We come willingly.”
(41- The Elucidated, 11)


http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/we-are-created-out-of-nothing/

 

[Emre_1974tr]

Speaking of true Islam, my English article and video:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/nobody-has-got-ghost-according-to-quran.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXA38GeVM6k

 

[aleCcowaN]

Hey, thank you.
I am starting to feel my youth was not altogether wasted on that crop.
If I had been told back than that "some atheists in a couple of decades' time will enjoy your unti-islamic writings" I would have had immidiately joined the Afgan war..


(Not sure of that grammar in the last sentence, but you know what I mean.)

(completely understandable)

So do I. I look with surprise the one I was back then at age 18.

 

[aleCcowaN]

11- Then He turned to the heavens, and it was in a gaseous state.
And said to it, and the earth;
“Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly.”
They said, “We come willingly.”
(41- The Elucidated, 11)


http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/we-are-created-out-of-nothing/

more fairy tales ...

 

[halleyscomet]

11- Then He turned to the heavens, and it was in a gaseous state.
And said to it, and the earth;
“Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly.”
They said, “We come willingly.”
(41- The Elucidated, 11)


http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/we-are-created-out-of-nothing/

Retreating from debate by copying and pasting more verses? I'd hoped you were made of sterner stuff than that. Oh well, at least you do a good impression of a dog hiding with her tail tucked between her legs.