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Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 2

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logger said:
Lol

You don’t even understand these investigations are supposed to be unbiased, it’s why they’re doing the investigation because our government doesn’t trust itself to do an impartial investigation. You don’t even know how this works
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What do you mean by unbiased and impartial? You need a definition and a standard.
 
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logger said:
Lol

You don’t even understand these investigations are supposed to be unbiased, it’s why they’re doing the investigation because our government doesn’t trust itself to do an impartial investigation. You don’t even know how this works
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You are wrong again.

If you can show that the investigation is biased, then kindly do so. However, you have continually failed to do anything of the sort.
 
The investigation is so biased that Meuller dismissed one of his team because the guy said some bad things about Trump....
 
logger said:
Lol

You don’t even understand these investigations are supposed to be unbiased, it’s why they’re doing the investigation because our government doesn’t trust itself to do an impartial investigation. You don’t even know how this works
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Even though the reactions are overblown, you do highlight a legitimate problem.

We want the investigators to have their heads screwed on straight, yes? If everyone with a negative view of Trump were filtered out, we're left with a fantastically sketchy pool of dimwits and water carriers.
 
thaiboxerken said:
The investigation is so biased that Meuller dismissed one of his team because the guy said some bad things about Trump....
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This is my main takeaway. While it's true that there are questions to be answered (it appears there may be evidence of bias in both directions, albeit much more evidence towards an anti-Clinton bias, and both need to be investigated thoroughly), one thing that is clear and agreed upon by news outlets from both sides of the political spectrum is that when it was brought to his attention that one of his agents in the investigation may be compromised Mueller had him removed. This speaks to Mueller's credibility.

When it was brought to Trump's attention that Flynn had been compromised by Russia, Trump kept Flynn on and fired the person who brought it to his attention. This speaks to Trump's credibility.
 
logger said:
Lol

You don’t even understand these investigations are supposed to be unbiased, it’s why they’re doing the investigation because our government doesn’t trust itself to do an impartial investigation. You don’t even know how this works
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Yes, I do know how this works, or at least how worked before fascists took control: After the election, both Republicans and Democrats called for investigations into how the FBI had conducted the Clinton email investigation, a job that falls to the DoJ's Inspector General. That's been done, and not a single case of not following procedures was found. Not a single case of bias causing any improper of unethical behavior was found.

TrumpCo is actively trying to destroy the underpinnings of our democracy, and Republicans are going along because they know that if they don't help him save his sorry ass, it will be the end of their grip on power, too. Scumbag traitors, the lot of them. How successful they will be over the next year remains to be seen, but the solution to the real problem is obvious: To save our democracy, the current version of the Republican Party must die. This is way beyond partisan bickering now.
 
There's a difference between conducting an unbiased investigation, and an investigation being conducted by unbiased people.

I would think that the latter are going to be almost impossible to find with respect to the President, and furthermore, anyone unbiased is unlikely to be in a position to conduct an investigation of any quality.

However, people with a bias are quite capable of acting in an unbiased way, and conducting a high quality, unbiased investigation.
 
logger said:
You mean this one?
https://oig.justice.gov/press/2017/2017-01-12.pdf

Are you ever interested in the facts instead of accusing me?

The leftist news sources that inform you won’t post anything like this, they go out of their way to deceive people.
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I don't know why I bother, but ...

https://oig.justice.gov/press/2017/2017-01-12.pdf
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 12, 2017 DOJ OIG Announces Initiation of Review
Oh, and look:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/...ey-fbi-inspector-general-hillary-clinton.html
Comey Letter on Clinton Email Is Subject of Justice Dept. Inquiry
By ADAM GOLDMAN, ERIC LICHTBLAU and MATT APUZZOJAN. 12, 2017 WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s inspector general said Thursday that he would open a broad investigation into how the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, handled the case over Hillary Clinton’s emails, including his decision to discuss it at a news conference and to disclose 11 days before the election that he had new information that could lead him to reopen it.


But yeah, your claim that "The leftist news sources that inform you won’t post anything like this" is really spot on ....
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Worm said:
However, people with a bias are quite capable of acting in an unbiased way, and conducting a high quality, unbiased investigation.
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I think there have been enough experiments into cognition that this is probably untrue. It is probably more realistic that we can cobble together a semi workable solution.
 
Since everyone is human, then everyone has some amount of bias about everything.

Accordingly, the question is not if certain investigators have anti-Trump bias, because there are some who do, In fact, due to the recent anti-FBI comments that have been made by that stupid, idiotic, greedy, liar Trump, I am sure that there are more than a few FBI agents who hate Trump. But what 'logger' has consistently failed to understand is that just because some investigators may have anti-Trump feelings, that does not automatically mean that these investigators will produce an anti-Trump investigation.

Therefore, unless 'logger', or someone else, can show that the personal feelings of the investigators are producing a flawed investigation, then I will continue to have faith in that investigation.
 
Crossbow said:
Since everyone is human, then everyone has some amount of bias about everything.

Accordingly, the question is not if certain investigators have anti-Trump bias, because there are some who do, In fact, due to the recent anti-FBI comments that have been made by that stupid, idiotic, greedy, liar Trump, I am sure that there are more than a few FBI agents who hate Trump. But what 'logger' has consistently failed to understand is that just because some investigators may have anti-Trump feelings, that does not automatically mean that these investigators will produce an anti-Trump investigation.

Therefore, unless 'logger', or someone else, can show that the personal feelings of the investigators are producing a flawed investigation, then I will continue to have faith in that investigation.
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There have been court rulings even against the appearance of corruption for having a corrosive effect. But I don't think you can stop people from seeing appearance if they don't choose to.
 
thaiboxerken said:
The investigation is so biased that Meuller dismissed one of his team because the guy said some bad things about Trump....
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The Mueller investigation is dead. It saved face with those process crimes and that money laundering thing all having nothing to do with the conspiracy they were supposed to expose. Instead they discovered that they were infiltrated by people instrumental in conspiring to hoax the supposed conspiracy in the first place. Reason? Meddle in the election. The picture is pretty complete now and you seem to totally miss it because you tell yourself that it just exists on websites with names like "conservativetreehouse". But you're wrong. Read this, it's a quite succinct summary of the latest developments (Strzok is the guy who was fired from the Mueller investigation, in your belief for "saying bad things about Trump"):

Fake News, Sedition and Public Apathy
 
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