Cont: The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 27

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She was sued for defamation because she used her PR agent and book publishers to issue press releases saying she was beaten up by the police and interrogated for 53 hours by tag teams of twelve and not allowed food or drink or comfort breaks.

Yet her lawyer failed to file a complaint via the correct complaints procedures.

You you have been given references to ECHR case law defining even a single non-premeditated slap causing no injury is 'demeaning' treatment and therefore a breach of article 3.

You have been given references to the fact that it is the state's responsibility to initiate an investigation into a possible breach of article 3 and reporting such a breach in court proceedings is regarded by the ECHR as sufficient notification to require investigation, there is no requirement for the 'correct forms' to be filled.

Italy has already accepted that Mignini wrongly withheld access to counsel as he has been disciplined for this action.

Remember the claim Knox is bringing is that the callunia conviction is a consequence of breaches of her rights. Once the callunia conviction was finalised in cassation, as very particularly mentioned by Marasca, there could be no further appeal. Marasca by saying this ensured that Knox's case was acceptable to the ECHR.

(I always wondered whether Marasca's comment was made because he felt uncomfortable with the callunia but could not do anything about it within the Italian system, all he could do was ensure it went to the ECHR and he could do that by specifying there could be no further appeal within Italy.)
 
Numbers, how much would you like to chip in for the one on one reading comprehension lessons for Vixen?

Don't you mean the lessons for the guilters on intellectual honesty (aka don't make false claims)?
 
Don't you mean the lessons for the guilters on intellectual honesty (aka don't make false claims)?

It's something else other than "intellectual dishonesty". For instance I read every word of your posts on the EChR; they are thorough and relevant.

Yet I don't share your optimism as to what it means for the calunnia conviction. Am I intellectually dishonest?
 
It's something else other than "intellectual dishonesty". For instance I read every word of your posts on the EChR; they are thorough and relevant.

Yet I don't share your optimism as to what it means for the calunnia conviction. Am I intellectually dishonest?

Are you? Please list your false claims. If you have none or very few, I think you would be committing false advertising to claim to be intellectually dishonest.
 
You you have been given references to ECHR case law defining even a single non-premeditated slap causing no injury is 'demeaning' treatment and therefore a breach of article 3.

You have been given references to the fact that it is the state's responsibility to initiate an investigation into a possible breach of article 3 and reporting such a breach in court proceedings is regarded by the ECHR as sufficient notification to require investigation, there is no requirement for the 'correct forms' to be filled.

Italy has already accepted that Mignini wrongly withheld access to counsel as he has been disciplined for this action.

Remember the claim Knox is bringing is that the callunia conviction is a consequence of breaches of her rights. Once the callunia conviction was finalised in cassation, as very particularly mentioned by Marasca, there could be no further appeal. Marasca by saying this ensured that Knox's case was acceptable to the ECHR.
(I always wondered whether Marasca's comment was made because he felt uncomfortable with the callunia but could not do anything about it within the Italian system, all he could do was ensure it went to the ECHR and he could do that by specifying there could be no further appeal within Italy.)

This is exactly the part that Vixen seems to not understand. It's why she claims a formal complaint needed to be filed. It's why she claims Amanda hasn't exhausted her available remedies. Vixen is fabricating a case Amanda isn't pursuing. Her case to the ECHR is regarding her calunnia conviction, not the demeaning, inhuman treatment by the police. Yet somehow I feel confident Vixen will continue to 'miss' this small detail.
 
Are you? Please list your false claims. If you have none or very few, I think you would be committing false advertising to claim to be intellectually dishonest.

Perhaps I'm intellectually dishonest by claiming to be intellectually dishonest.....

I've got a few things completely wrong. Perhaps too many to list.
 
Perhaps I'm intellectually dishonest by claiming to be intellectually dishonest.....

I've got a few things completely wrong. Perhaps too many to list.

People who get things wrong may be honestly mistaken.

People who continually make false claims - claims that can be refuted by a little literature research - about, for example, physics, forensic science, the recorded evidence in a criminal case, Italian law, ECHR law, and so on, may be intellectually dishonest.

But let's get back to some specifics of the Italian law dealing with complaints that are relevant to this case. My source for the translations of the following CPP articles is Gialuz, Luparia, and Scarpa, ed., The Italian Code of Criminal Procedure: Critical essays and English translation; Wolters Kluwer Italia (C) 2014.

CPP Article 336 Complaint

1. A complaint shall be submitted by means of a statement in which the complainant requests the prosecution of an act deemed an offense by law. Such statement may be submitted personally or by means of a specially appointed representative.

CPP Article 337 Formality of complaint

1. The statement of complaint shall be submitted, in the form provided for in Article 333, paragraph 2, to either the authorities to whom a report may be submitted or to a consular officer abroad. If it bears an authenticated signature, the statement may also be delivered by an appointed person or sent by mail in a registered envelope.

2. If the statement of complaint is submitted orally, the minutes in which it is recorded shall be signed by the complainant or his specially appointed representative.

3. {Not relevant to this case - only applies to a complainant that is an entity such as a company.}

4. The authority receiving the complaint shall certify the date and place of submission of the complaint, check the identity of the person submitting it and forward the case file to the Office of the Public Prosecutor.
CPP Article 330 Acquisition of notitiae criminis [notification of an alleged crime]

1. The Public Prosecutor and criminal police shall acquire notitiae criminis on their own initiative and receive notitiae criminis that are submitted or forwarded according to the following Articles.

CPP Article 331 Report by public officials and persons in charge of a public service

1. Without prejudice to the provisions of Article 347, public officials and persons in charge of a public service who receive information about an offence that may be subject to prosecution...must report it in writing, even if the alleged perpetrator ... is not identified.

2. The report shall be submitted or forwarded without delay to the Public Prosecutor or a criminal police official.

CPP Article 332 Content of the report

1. The report shall contain the description of the essential elements of the alleged offence, ... as well as the sources of evidence already known. Whenever possible, the report shall also contain the personal data ... that may help to identify the alleged perpetrator, the victim and whoever may be able to provide information relevant for the reconstruction of the events.

CPP Article 333 Report by private parties
1. Whoever has knowledge of an offence subject to prosecution may submit a report. The law establishes the cases in which reporting an offence is mandatory.

2. The report shall be submitted orally or in writing, personally or by means of a specially appointed representative, to the Public Prosecutor or a criminal police official. If the report is submitted in writing, it shall be signed by its author or his specially appointed representative.
CPP Article 334-bis Exclusion of the obligation to report during defence investigative activities

1. The [defence] lawyer and the other persons [that is, the lawyer's substitute or private investigator] referred to in Article 391-bis are not obliged to make a report, not even on offences they were acquainted with during the investigative activities they were conducting.
CPP Article 334 Register of notitiae criminis

1. The Public Prosecutor shall enter immediately, in the dedicated register retained in his office, any notitiae criminis he receives or acquires on his own initiative as well as, simultaneously or as the moment it is known, the name of the alleged perpetrator of the offence.
CPP Article 347 Obligation to forward a notitiae criminis

1. After receiving a notitiae criminis, the criminal police shall inform, in writing and without delay, the Public Prosecutor of the essential elements of the alleged offence and of the other elements hitherto collected, specifying the sources of evidence and the activities already carried out. The criminal police shall forward the relevant documentation to the Public Prosecutor.
 
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But let's get back to some specifics of the Italian law dealing with complaints that are relevant to this case. My source for the translations of the following CPP articles is Gialuz, Luparia, and Scarpa, ed., The Italian Code of Criminal Procedure: Critical essays and English translation; Wolters Kluwer Italia (C) 2014.

CPP Article 336 Complaint

1. A complaint shall be submitted by means of a statement in which the complainant requests the prosecution of an act deemed an offense by law. Such statement may be submitted personally or by means of a specially appointed representative.

CPP Article 337 Formality of complaint

1. The statement of complaint shall be submitted, in the form provided for in Article 333, paragraph 2, to either the authorities to whom a report may be submitted or to a consular officer abroad. If it bears an authenticated signature, the statement may also be delivered by an appointed person or sent by mail in a registered envelope.

2. If the statement of complaint is submitted orally, the minutes in which it is recorded shall be signed by the complainant or his specially appointed representative.

3. {Not relevant to this case - only applies to a complainant that is an entity such as a company.}

4. The authority receiving the complaint shall certify the date and place of submission of the complaint, check the identity of the person submitting it and forward the case file to the Office of the Public Prosecutor.
CPP Article 330 Acquisition of notitiae criminis [notification of an alleged crime]

1. The Public Prosecutor and criminal police shall acquire notitiae criminis on their own initiative and receive notitiae criminis that are submitted or forwarded according to the following Articles.

CPP Article 331 Report by public officials and persons in charge of a public service

1. Without prejudice to the provisions of Article 347, public officials and persons in charge of a public service who receive information about an offence that may be subject to prosecution...must report it in writing, even if the alleged perpetrator ... is not identified.

2. The report shall be submitted or forwarded without delay to the Public Prosecutor or a criminal police official.

CPP Article 332 Content of the report

1. The report shall contain the description of the essential elements of the alleged offence, ... as well as the sources of evidence already known. Whenever possible, the report shall also contain the personal data ... that may help to identify the alleged perpetrator, the victim and whoever may be able to provide information relevant for the reconstruction of the events.

CPP Article 333 Report by private parties
1. Whoever has knowledge of an offence subject to prosecution may submit a report. The law establishes the cases in which reporting an offence is mandatory.

2. The report shall be submitted orally or in writing, personally or by means of a specially appointed representative, to the Public Prosecutor or a criminal police official. If the report is submitted in writing, it shall be signed by its author or his specially appointed representative.
CPP Article 334-bis Exclusion of the obligation to report during defence investigative activities

1. The [defence] lawyer and the other persons [that is, the lawyer's substitute or private investigator] referred to in Article 391-bis are not obliged to make a report, not even on offences they were acquainted with during the investigative activities they were conducting.
CPP Article 334 Register of notitiae criminis

1. The Public Prosecutor shall enter immediately, in the dedicated register retained in his office, any notitiae criminis he receives or acquires on his own initiative as well as, simultaneously or as the moment it is known, the name of the alleged perpetrator of the offence.
CPP Article 347 Obligation to forward a notitiae criminis

1. After receiving a notitiae criminis, the criminal police shall inform, in writing and without delay, the Public Prosecutor of the essential elements of the alleged offence and of the other elements hitherto collected, specifying the sources of evidence and the activities already carried out. The criminal police shall forward the relevant documentation to the Public Prosecutor.

Now for the application of the above CPP Articles to the case of Amanda Knox.

1. Knox wrote out on Nov. 6, 2007, in English, a document - Memoriale 1 - that contained an allegation that the police had hit her and threatened her during her interrogation. Hitting or threatening someone to get them to make a (false) statement to the police or other judicial authorities is a crime under the Italian Criminal Code, CP 377-bis. It may also be a crime under other Italian legal provisions. Thus, Knox's Memoriale 1 constitutes a REPORT of an alleged crime. Knox provided her Memoriale 1, a REPORT of an alleged crime, to the police on Nov. 6. It was the responsibility of the police and prosecutor to do whatever would be necessary to make that REPORT a COMPLAINT. The REPORT was placed in the case file, but apparently the prosecutor choose not to pursue it as a COMPLAINT.

2. Instead, the Italian courts - specifically, the Gemelli CSC panel - in a final decision, interpreted Knox's REPORT, Memoriale 1, as a defensive document, that, in its judicial opinion, justified overriding the inadmissibility of Knox's interrogation statements - which were otherwise inadmissible as evidence against her of any crime - for the purpose only of using those statements as evidence of the criminal offense of calunnia (false accusation) against Lumumba.

3. The Italian authorities, in a violation of CPP Article 63, illegally denied legal representation to Knox during the period that she was interrogated and that she wrote Memoriale 1 and Memoriale 2. Thus, she had no legal assistance to aid her or protect her rights. The Italian authorities further violated her rights by not informing her that she was or had become a suspect and thus had the right to remain silent, while anything she said might be used against her, or lead to her being charged with false accusation.

4. It is clear that the allegations that Knox made against the police in her Memoriale 1 REPORT were allegations of a crime because when she repeated those allegations in her court testimony, she was charged with calunnia (false accusation) against the police. One can only be charged with calunnia if the allegedly false accusations are equivalent to the elements of a crime in the Italian Criminal Code. The Boninsegna court finally acquitted her of this charge, because:

"It can be, therefore, concluded that the chosen investigative practices induced in the defendant the conviction, or the reasonable doubt, that she was being subjected to a planned, oppressive and unfair investigative action - this also takes into account Knox’s definitive acquittal in the main criminal trial because she did not commit the crime of murder - in light of the overall way in which her interrogation was performed.

There is, therefore, an absence of the evidence to place beyond a reasonable doubt that the events did not indeed occur as the girl related and that she was fully aware of the non-involvement of the Prosecutor in the way the investigations concerning her were performed."

5. Defense lawyers and their staff or associates are under no obligation to notify the police or prosecution of any alleged crime discovered during the lawyer's defensive investigation.

6. Criminal police are always under the obligation to report promptly to the prosecutor any alleged crime they become aware of, even if the police are the ones who are alleged to have committed the crime.
 
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CPP Article 334-bis Exclusion of the obligation to report during defence investigative activities

1. The [defence] lawyer and the other persons [that is, the lawyer's substitute or private investigator] referred to in Article 391-bis are not obliged to make a report, not even on offences they were acquainted with during the investigative activities they were conducting.

Obviously and most certainly the above is a hoax as Vixen has told us umpteen times that
"Under Italian law Dalla Vedova had a duty and obligation to report the police abuse". Who are we to believe? A direct CPP Article 334 quote or Vixen?
 
Obviously and most certainly the above is a hoax as Vixen has told us umpteen times that
"Under Italian law Dalla Vedova had a duty and obligation to report the police abuse". Who are we to believe? A direct CPP Article 334 quote or Vixen?

The correct wording would be "Under Italian law, the police had a duty and obligation to report the police abuse (hitting, threats, and so on to obtain a statement) to the prosecutor in writing without delay".
 
The correct wording would be "Under Italian law, the police had a duty and obligation to report the police abuse (hitting, threats, and so on to obtain a statement) to the prosecutor in writing without delay".

I wonder if the two Italian police officers alleged to have raped two US students in Florence made a report to the Florence public prosecutor:

"Yesterday, the two American students returned to Florence to repeat their accusations in a pretrial, closed-door hearing.

The hearing lasted for 12 hours, ending well into the night. During the hearing, in which the two women faced extensive questioning posed via a translator by the officers' defense lawyers, prosecutor and judge, they alleged the two uniformed officers offered to accompany the students home in their patrol car that night after meeting them outside a nightclub and then raped them in the lobby and elevator of the house, where they were staying during their semester abroad in Florence."

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/american-s...talian-police-officer-tells/story?id=51350251

See also: http://abcnews.go.com/International...alian-police-officer-sexual/story?id=51548526

Could it be, contrary to the repeated assertions of the guilters, that not all the Italian police are absolutely honest and trustworthy individuals who never have any reason to lie?

Could it be, contrary to the repetitive claims of the guilters, that Italian police officer Monica Napoleoni and her colleagues willfully violated Italian law in their interrogation of Knox and Sollecito? It's clear that they have been accused of other violations:

"An obscure child custody case in Perugia, Italy has revealed what prosecutors allege was a rogue group of four detectives in the town's elite homicide squad. Three of the detectives currently under investigation worked on the Meredith Kercher homicide in 2007 - and may shed light on how the murder squad bungled the interrogation of Amanda Knox in November 2007.

On Nov. 17, 2012 in Perugia, a young woman discovered that the four tires on her mother's car were slashed and a note, written in blue crayon on the hood, read, "Bitch, so you'll learn not to take children away from their mothers." A phallic symbol was also drawn on the car hood.

The next day, a Perugia lawyer came home to find "You must die" and "Pedophile" spray-painted on his house. The lawyer called police to report that he saw a dark Audi speeding away from his home.

The lawyer is Vittorio Recolcati. The woman who had her car tires slashed is Francesca Ciammarughi, a psychologist. Perugia prosecutors say Recolcati and Ciammarughi have one, key, person in common: Monica Napoleoni.

Monica Napoleoni is a deputy commissioner in the Perugia police department and was, until recently, chief of the murder squad. ....
In February 2013, a judge suspended Zugarini from the police department for two months because of her misuse of the police computer system. She, Napoleoni and two other murder squad detectives remain under investigation for abuse of power....

Napoleoni's murder squad ended up bungling the very high-profile interrogation. The squad's overzealous esprit de corp led the Italian Supreme Court to toss Knox's false confession in April 2008.* The Supreme Court said Knox was denied her basic rights during the murder squad interrogation. ...."

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amanda...lian-detectives-impact-the-latest-knox-trial/

* This is a reference to the Gemelli CSC panel's judgment that the police had violated Italian law CPP Article 63 in their interrogation of Knox. The "false confession" is Knox's coerced false statement naming Lumumba. The Gemelli CSC panel declared the statement inadmissible for the charges of murder and rape, but allowed it for the charge of calunnia (false accusation), because Knox had written a "defensive" document describing the police coercion in the interrogation.
 
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Obviously and most certainly the above is a hoax as Vixen has told us umpteen times that
"Under Italian law Dalla Vedova had a duty and obligation to report the police abuse". Who are we to believe? A direct CPP Article 334 quote or Vixen?

Mignini was sanctioned/censured for violating Sollecito's rights at interrogation. Was Dalla Vedova ever similarly sanctioned?

In there lies the point which should close this. Yet there's plenty Vixen will simply cycle back to, as if the pseudo-minutiae of this case has not been gone through dozens of times each.
 
There were witnesses. You are incredibly naïve if you think any of those policemen would come forward and admit to being part of an illegal act during the investigation. Coming forward would have ended their careers just as Vanessa Sollecito's carabinieri career was ended for daring to defend her brother. Any "snitch" would have been ostracized by his/her fellow officers. Only a fool would think otherwise.




Oh, really? That's what the police claim. A claim Marasca called "sugarcoated". Yet, where is the video of them doing this? Oh, wait...they just couldn't afford a video tape. Right? Nothing suspicious here. Where is the independent, non-interrogation involved participants' corroboration? I supposed Knox's screams, heard by others in the questura, were due to that darn chamomile tea burning her mouth?

Just stop with the "torture" and "medical report" crap, will ya? It's tiresome as well as silly. As you've been told twice, and which anyone with an ounce of sense realizes, 2 or 3 smacks to the back of the head do not leave any marks and Knox has never claimed she was "tortured". Continuing to spout such nonsense doesn't reflect badly on Knox, but badly on you.

Nonsense. A witness can complain in confidence.

Raff claims he heard Knox screaming, yet it is not physically possible, as he was in a completely different part of the building. (Another blatant lie from Raff.)

If Knox is so traumatised by the claimed head slaps then why leave it seven years, and then taking it to ECHR (after years of defamatory and false claims fed by her PR machine) instead of complaining at the time through the recognised complaints channels. She had lawyers and she had the US ambassador.

The truth is, it was just a pack of lies designed to detract from her damning calunnia and confession of being at the crime scene.
 
And we'll all chip in to get you some one on one tutoring in reading comprehension. It should, hopefully, cut down on the number of times we need to repost things for you.

Having any luck on finding those quotes from Knox, M-G, or her publishers/book that she was "beaten up" or "tortured"?

The ECHR application itself specifies Article 3: Torture.
 
ECHR judgment: State authorities must take action whenever there is any credible allegation of mistreatment by State agents, and statements by an alleged victim in court are adequate to bring such allegations to the level of requiring an effective investigation. Failure of Ukraine to conduct an effective investigation was thus a violation of Convention Article 3.

The Italian police did not take action to investigate Knox's statement of being smacked. Instead, they sued her for defamation*which case they lost. This failure to investigate is a violation of Article 3.

Your inability, or unwillingness, to acknowledge this is like a 4 yr. old refusing to concede he ate the cookie when confronted with a picture of himself with cookie crumbles all around his mouth and a cookie in each hand.

Since the issue of filing a complaint has come up again, I will post here more of the ECHR judgment text from Grinenko v. Ukraine, which should add some clarity and show some parallels with the Knox case, including her giving Memoriale 1 - which according to Italian law (CPP Articles 337 and 333) did meet or approximate the formalities of a complaint of a crime.

In fact, according to these Italian laws (CPP Articles 337 and 333), a private person may provide a complaint and it may even be delivered orally; if delivered orally, the police or prosecutor is to write down (minute) the complaint, which the complainant or his/her lawyer will sign and date. There is no requirement in Italian law that a person's lawyer must deliver some kind of formal complaint; that is merely a guilter fantasy.

Here's the additional ECHR judgment text from Grinenko v. Ukraine:

27. On 14 and 28 January 2005 the applicant was questioned in the absence of N.B. but in the presence of the legal aid lawyer. According to the verbatim record provided by the Government, while being questioned on 14 January 2005 the applicant had informed the investigator that his confession of 21 November 2004 had been obtained by means of ill‑treatment.

30. The applicant further submitted [during his trial] that he had been arrested at 11 p.m. on 20 November 2004, taken to the police station in Kharkiv and then escorted to Kyiv. He alleged that police officers had hit him in the stomach with truncheons, placed a gas mask over his head and blocked his access to air, which had made it impossible to breathe, and that his hands had swelled because the handcuffs had been too tight. This treatment had resulted in his confessing to the crime.
31. D.K. [co-accused with the applicant and who had named the applicant as a co-conspirator in the preliminary investigation] asserted that after his arrest, the police officers had started to threaten him so he had simply given up and signed all the documents he had been told to sign. The court called his girlfriend as a witness. She stated that on 17 November 2004 she had also been taken to the police station together with D.K. On that day she had been questioned for six hours, during which the police officers had sworn and shouted at her, and threatened to rape her. After her release, she had gone to a doctor for examination.

32. When the court summoned the police officers, the applicant identified one police officer who had hit him in the stomach and another who had placed a gas mask over his head. D.K. identified the police officer who had abused him psychologically. The girlfriend of D.K. identified the police officer who had shouted at her and threatened to rape her. The police officers denied the allegations of psychological and physical ill-treatment. They admitted that they had arrested the applicant in Kharkiv and had taken him to Kyiv. [Meaning that the official arrest documents had been falsified by the police.]
33. The court also questioned the investigator, who submitted that the applicant had made no complaints of ill-treatment {a false statement, contradicted by the record; see para. 27} and that the applicant had been assisted by the legal aid lawyer during questioning. In the investigator’s opinion, this had been sufficient to ensure the applicant’s defence rights.
1. The parties’ submissions

46. The Government contended that the applicant had mentioned his allegation of ill-treatment to the authorities for the first time on 14 January 2005. He had maintained that complaint during the criminal trial. This, however, had not been an effective way of raising the complaint of ill-treatment at the domestic level. The applicant should have submitted a separate application to the prosecutor’s office requesting that criminal proceedings be instituted against the police officers concerned. Such an application would have enabled the authorities to carry out pre-investigative enquiries and decide whether to open an investigation in that respect. The refusal to investigate could have been further challenged before the higher prosecutor or the courts, as provided for by Articles 99-1 and 236-1 of the CCP. The Government thus asserted that the applicant had failed to exhaust domestic remedies in respect of his complaint of ill-treatment.

47. The applicant disagreed and claimed that he had informed the investigator and the courts dealing with his criminal case about the alleged ill-treatment. If they had not been empowered to investigate such issues, they should have referred the complaint to the appropriate authority, as required by Article 97 of the CCP.
2. The Court’s assessment

48. The Court notes that under Article 97 of the CCP a prosecutor, investigator, inquiry officer or judge is obliged to accept applications or notifications as to a committed or planned crime, including in cases that are outside their competence. Upon receipt of such information, those public officers should either institute criminal proceedings, refuse to institute criminal proceedings, or remit the material for examination in accordance with the rules of jurisdiction. 49. In the present case the applicant notified the investigator in charge of his criminal case about the alleged ill-treatment (see paragraph 27 above), but the investigator did not take a separate decision on this issue and later even claimed before the trial court that the applicant had not complained of ill-treatment (see paragraph 33 above). The applicant further made that complaint before the trial court, which, rather than referring the matter to the investigative authorities, took cognisance of the applicant’s complaint and dismissed it after examination on the merits. The applicant then raised the issue in his cassation appeal to the Supreme Court. It follows that the applicant sufficiently informed the domestic authorities of the alleged ill-treatment and provided them with appropriate opportunities to address the matter effectively. 50. Accordingly, the complaint cannot be rejected on the grounds of non-exhaustion of domestic remedies and the Government’s objection in this regard should be dismissed. Neither can the applicant be reproached for having missed the six-month time-limit as he reasonably expected that the courts would give attention to those issues in the course of the criminal proceedings against him (see Kaverzin v. Ukraine, cited above, § 99).

51. The Court further notes that the applicant’s complaints under Article 3 of the Convention are not manifestly ill-founded within the meaning of Article 35 § 3 (a) of the Convention. They are not inadmissible on any other grounds. They must therefore be declared admissible.

61. The Court reiterates that where an individual makes an arguable claim that he has been ill-treated by the State authorities in breach of Article 3, that provision, read in conjunction with the State’s general duty under Article 1 of the Convention, requires by implication that there should be an effective official investigation. For the investigation to be regarded as “effective”, it should in principle be capable of leading to the establishment of the facts of the case and to the identification and punishment of those responsible. This is not an obligation of result, but one of means. The authorities must have taken the reasonable steps available to them to secure the evidence concerning the incident, including, inter alia, eyewitness testimony, forensic evidence, and so on. Any deficiency in the investigation which undermines its ability to establish the cause of injuries or the identity of the persons responsible will risk falling foul of this standard, and a requirement of promptness and reasonable expedition is implicit in this context (see, among many authorities, Mikheyev v. Russia, no. 77617/01, § 107 et seq., 26 January 2006, and Assenov and Others v. Bulgaria, 28 October 1998, Reports 1998-VIII, §§ 102 et seq.).

62. As to the present case, the Court considers that the applicant made an arguable complaint of ill-treatment before the domestic authorities which triggered their procedural obligation under Article 3 of the Convention to carry out an effective investigation of the alleged facts. Meanwhile, the applicant’s allegations were examined exclusively by the courts in the course of legal argument concerning the admissibility of evidence at trial. This examination was limited in scope as it amounted only to the questioning of the police officers, the defendants and one witness. Accordingly, there has been no full-scale investigation of the matter for the purpose of Article 3 of the Convention. Furthermore, following that examination the courts decided to give preference to the police officers’ account of the facts without making any genuine attempt to remove the discrepancies between the applicant’s specific and concrete statements and the submissions by the police officers. In these circumstances the Court considers that the State has failed to take the necessary steps aimed at effective investigation of the allegations of ill-treatment.

63. In view of the above, the Court holds that there has been a violation of Article 3 in its procedural limb.
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* The legal case against Knox was primarily a criminal charge of calunnia, false accusation, against the police and Mignini. She was finally acquitted (the prosecution did not appeal) by the judgment of the Boninsegna court.


Do you read the particulars of the cases you quote?

The following does indeed describe torture (the case you quote):

2. When the court summoned the police officers, the applicant identified one police officer who had hit him in the stomach and another who had placed a gas mask over his head. D.K. identified the police officer who had abused him psychologically. The girlfriend of D.K. identified the police officer who had shouted at her and threatened to rape her. The police officers denied the allegations of psychological and physical ill-treatment.

Knox' complaint about the police threatening her with 'thirty year's jail' is not torture.

Any B-rate Police Academy-style film - where no doubt Knox gets it from - will have a mean cop saying, 'You're going away for a long time, son'.

Not nice, no, but hardly torture. Knox never filed a medical report recording the trauma and mental anguish she suffered.

Instead we saw a major PR campaign smearing the police and the prosecution, and all the time Dalla Vedova twiddled his thumbs and lined his pockets.
 
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If Knox is so traumatised by the claimed head slaps then why leave it seven years, and then taking it to ECHR (after years of defamatory and false claims fed by her PR machine) instead of complaining at the time through the recognised complaints channels. She had lawyers and she had the US ambassador.

The truth is, it was just a pack of lies designed to detract from her damning calunnia and confession of being at the crime scene.

It is the height of irony that you accuse others of uttering a "pack of lies" when this post above reveals you haven't even the most basic grasp of the facts.

Knox is NOT taking the head-slaps to the CHR. Let's repeat that again to be clear: KNOX IS NOT TAKING THE HEAD-SLAPS TO THE ECHR! The claims of head slaps were dealt with within Italy, as the police officers concerned TOOK KNOX TO COURT FOR DEFAMATION, they accused her of defamation for the claim.

That defamation trial ended in an acquittal for Knox.

What is it being taken to the ECHR? IT IS KNOX'S CALUNNIA CONVICTION ABOUT PATRICK LUMUMBA!!!!! That conviction was upheld at all of Italy's courts, and Knox is claiming that her rights had been violated in the coercive police interrogation which led to Lumumba being arrested and accused.

Why do you not know this? This is almost 3 years since the acquittals on all the murder-related charges, acquittals for Sollecito and Knox. Just recently, PM Mignini withdrew his own defamation lawsuit against Sollecito and Gumbel, for the book, "Honor Bound". The judge adjudicating the criminal angle to that also threw out the criminal case.

About a month ago, we were promised that this had been (astonishingly and against everything else in the Italian press) a victory for Mignini, the claim being that Sollecito and Gumbel were about to issue an apology. Typically, we're still waiting for that PGP-claim to be fulfilled.

Add to this - you don't know the difference between the claims of head-slaps, vs. the calunnia conviction. I think it's about time that we check the video-tapes of that interrogation from Nov 5/6, 2007 in the Questura. You know: the transcripts/recordings of interrogations mandated by Italian law.
 
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This is exactly the part that Vixen seems to not understand. It's why she claims a formal complaint needed to be filed. It's why she claims Amanda hasn't exhausted her available remedies. Vixen is fabricating a case Amanda isn't pursuing. Her case to the ECHR is regarding her calunnia conviction, not the demeaning, inhuman treatment by the police. Yet somehow I feel confident Vixen will continue to 'miss' this small detail.

No. The ECHR cannot hear Appeals against sentencing and conviction.

It is a Human Rights Court only. Anyone can come along and claim abuse by the police.

That's why their Directions set out that applicants must prove they have gone through the proper complaints channels first. We are not talking about the criminal courts here.

For example, if I wish to complain in a small claims court you sold me a dud washing machine, it will want to see:

1. proof of ownership (i.e., a receipt)
2. a copy of your complaint in writing to the person who sold it to you, dated as soon after the problem arises as is reasonable
3. A copy of their response to your complaint, it any.

The ECHR are not a PR agent, you know. Simply filing an application means nothing if it does not fall under their jurisdiction or Court Procedure Rules (see above).
 
What a coincidence that the echr works in the exact way that validates your particular view of this case. It's a good thing you aren't prone to confirmation bias or anything.
 
Do you read the particulars of the cases you quote?

The following does indeed describe torture (the case you quote):



Knox' complaint about the police threatening her with 'thirty year's jail' is not torture.

Any B-rate Police Academy-style film - where no doubt Knox gets it from - will have a mean cop saying, 'You're going away for a long time, son'.

Not nice, no, but hardly torture. Knox never filed a medical report recording the trauma and mental anguish she suffered.

Instead we saw a major PR campaign smearing the police and the prosecution, and all the time Dalla Vedova twiddled his thumbs and lined his pockets.

As can be seen from the posts below, the police/prosecution carried out corruption and misconduct on an industrial scale where they violated the rights of Amanda and Raffaele during the interrogations, fed false information to the media, lied in court and committed perjury, destroyed evidence, engaged in the massive suppression of evidence and lied to Amanda she had HIV. PGP come up with the ludicrious notion the police/prosecution were honest and decent people who had been unfairly smeared by a PR campaign. Yet another example of gross stupidity by the PGP. A PR campaign was not needed to smear the police/prosecution because they did a perfectly good job themselves through the numerous abuses they committed.

http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/raffaeles-kitchen-knife/
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/contamination-labwork-coverup/
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/meredith-kercher-perjury-corruption/
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/evidence-destroyed/
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/blood-evidence-downstairs-apartment/
https://knoxsollecito.wordpress.com...old-about-amanda-knox-and-raffaele-sollecito/
http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/myths.html
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=11071314#post11071314
 
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